My gf's station wagon is faster than my sports car!

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NutBucket

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: exdeath
$17k new or used? The current models are $22k new.

And car in the $20k range now days will have a 200+ HP V6.

I didn't mean to come off so harsh, but I've been in that situation. I was in love with the Boxster S for a long time (similar to the 360 spider that I don't have the money for at the moment)

I just could not get over the weak 260 HP. 320 HP 3.6L would have been fine. To make it worse, there is hardly a aftermarket for newer porsches that doesnt cost $20,000 to turbo charge and then your still left with less than 400 HP on the Boxster.

I was not going to spend that much money on a Porsche to get smoked by a Nissans and cheap V6 mustangs that also have 260 HP and far bigger after market.

I ended up with a '03 Cobra with 390 HP factory and now with 600+ at the wheels.

I still like the Boxster, but I know if I had gotten it, I would have been pissed the first time a mustang or something wasted me. I don't have that problem with the Cobra.

People will say "oh but handling" and other nonsense. BS. There sure as hell aren't any "twisties" when someone in a "better handling" car pulls up in the lane next to you and starts revving... "twisties" only come into play after they've lost and they make excuses.

For example someone someone in a (making up numbers) 200 HP BMW will waste someone in a 100 HP 4 banger, but when a Cobra or Vette wastes the BMW they start talking about twisties... they are full of it.

Mine was $16,900 new with the sport suspension package and lsd.

Don't mind him. Going fast is fine and dandy but man I love navigating a twisty mountain road.
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: exdeath
$17k new or used? The current models are $22k new.

And car in the $20k range now days will have a 200+ HP V6.

I didn't mean to come off so harsh, but I've been in that situation. I was in love with the Boxster S for a long time (similar to the 360 spider that I don't have the money for at the moment)

I just could not get over the weak 260 HP. 320 HP 3.6L would have been fine. To make it worse, there is hardly a aftermarket for newer porsches that doesnt cost $20,000 to turbo charge and then your still left with less than 400 HP on the Boxster.

I was not going to spend that much money on a Porsche to get smoked by a Nissans and cheap V6 mustangs that also have 260 HP and far bigger after market.

I ended up with a '03 Cobra with 390 HP factory and now with 600+ at the wheels.

I still like the Boxster, but I know if I had gotten it, I would have been pissed the first time a mustang or something wasted me. I don't have that problem with the Cobra.

People will say "oh but handling" and other nonsense. BS. There sure as hell aren't any "twisties" when someone in a "better handling" car pulls up in the lane next to you and starts revving... "twisties" only come into play after they've lost and they make excuses.

For example someone someone in a (making up numbers) 200 HP BMW will waste someone in a 100 HP 4 banger, but when a Cobra or Vette wastes the BMW they start talking about twisties... they are full of it.

Mine was $16,900 new with the sport suspension package and lsd.

Don't mind him. Going fast is fine and dandy but man I love navigating a twisty mountain road.


You can "navigate twisty mountain roads" in any car when your top speed is 65 mph lol.

Anyhow the topic isnt "my gf's wagon beat my 'sports' car on twisty mountain roads" it was "my gf's wagon is faster than my 'sports' car" period.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Originally posted by: slick230
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: slick230
What are you driving that you consider a sports car and what wagon is she driving?

Check his sig! ;)

I have sigs turned off, as I'd rather not read the little brain farts people like to put down there.

My sarcasm meter must be broken.
*Glares at slick230's signature*

BLS > you
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
OMFG!!! I can only run low 14's in the quarter mile!! My life is over!!!

:roll:

Yeah people like this (you perhaps?) aren't concerned with being 'fast' as long as they can pick off the little guys. You say quarter mile times don't matter, that balance and handling are everything, yet you rev at stop lights and pick on people who you KNOW have half the car that you have at stop lights and straight roads.

Once somebody your own size finally schools you, you play down power and speed and say its all about twisties and handling and argue that your 175 HP car could take a 700 HP car if you "threw some twisties in there"

I've heard it over and over and over again

You'll never hear someone with a BMW complaining about about twisties as long as they are wasting Hondas and Toyotas on a straight run from a stop (ie: 1/4 mile), but smoke their asss with a vette or a mustang and suddenly they cry about twisties.

:roll:

 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: NutBucket
OMFG!!! I can only run low 14's in the quarter mile!! My life is over!!!

:roll:

Yeah people like this (you perhaps?) aren't concerned with being 'fast' as long as you can pick off the little guys. You say quarter mile times don't matter that balance and handling are everything, yet you rev at lights pick on people with half the car that you have at stop lights and straight aways.

Once somebody your own size schools you, you play down power and speed and say its all about twisties and handling and argue that your 175 HP car can take a 700 HP car in the twisties.

I've heard it over and over and over again

:roll:

lol, take it easy man, not everyone wants the same thing from their car... oh, and life goes on!
 

MiniGolfIsFun

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Originally posted by: exdeath
IMO anything that is going to be called a 'sports car' for starters has to have at LEAST 300 hp and 300 ft/lb

So I guess the Lotus Elise with 190 hp doesn't count, huh?
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: MiniGolfIsFun
Originally posted by: exdeath
IMO anything that is going to be called a 'sports car' for starters has to have at LEAST 300 hp and 300 ft/lb

So I guess the Lotus Elise with 190 hp doesn't count, huh?

Hey I never said a car couldn't LOOK sporty and still not be a sports car right?
 

MiniGolfIsFun

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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: MiniGolfIsFun
Originally posted by: exdeath
IMO anything that is going to be called a 'sports car' for starters has to have at LEAST 300 hp and 300 ft/lb

So I guess the Lotus Elise with 190 hp doesn't count, huh?

Hey I never said a car couldn't LOOK sporty and still not be a sports car right?
lol I'm not even gonna go into how confusing that statement is.
 

SupaDupaPan

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Hm, well Miata "sport" wouldn't that just be the sports version ... which just (most likely) has still, 140hp, the only perks is that it has "sport" suspension and such? Not that impressive really ....

The only I guess beefed up miata would be the mazdaspeed miata ... the one with the turbo really with 178 (or was it 168?) hp (still not that impressive really, considering that it's turbo ... and the civic SI has 160hp and that's NA)... I'm unsure of what the NC miatas are like ... but yeah...
 

exdeath

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Speaking of fast wagons...

I used to have a 1968 Chrysler Town and Country wagon with a 400 HP 440ci and 4 bbl.

It was a slug off the line, but once it got rolling, 5.0s never knew what hit them ;)

With a rebuilt tranny and shift kit I bet it could have slipped the tires off the line.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: exdeath
Originally posted by: NutBucket
OMFG!!! I can only run low 14's in the quarter mile!! My life is over!!!

:roll:

Yeah people like this (you perhaps?) aren't concerned with being 'fast' as long as they can pick off the little guys. You say quarter mile times don't matter, that balance and handling are everything, yet you rev at stop lights and pick on people who you KNOW have half the car that you have at stop lights and straight roads.

Once somebody your own size finally schools you, you play down power and speed and say its all about twisties and handling and argue that your 175 HP car could take a 700 HP car if you "threw some twisties in there"

I've heard it over and over and over again

You'll never hear someone with a BMW complaining about about twisties as long as they are wasting Hondas and Toyotas on a straight run from a stop (ie: 1/4 mile), but smoke their asss with a vette or a mustang and suddenly they cry about twisties.

:roll:

Oh yes, because you know exactly how I live:roll: Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever "revved" at a stoplight. Furthermore, I've never even attempted to make the claim that I can beat some 700hp monster in the twisties. Unlike you, I don't feel the need to showoff by racing cars I know are slower. I wonder why you're getting so defensive. Sheesh man, just accept that a lot of people, myself included, don't care about having a 10 second car.
 
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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Oh that?s a good one, referring to his Miata as a sports car!

To the OP, thanks for making me laugh, I needed it!



Seth

Ha ha. Someone doesn't know what a sports car is :)

:p
These are sports cars

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This is sporty, not a sports car.


seth

Exotics are a subset of sports car, sure.

Not only is a Miata a pure sports car (as opposed to sporty), it may just be the definitive sports car currently in production in the US.
A dodge viper isn't an exotic. it's a muscle car.

 

DVad3r

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If its anything german like an Audi avant rs6 wagon with 500 hp bi-turbo engine that pulls 330 km on the autobahn then ya, it probably is faster :)
 

pray4mojo

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Originally posted by: Horus
Originally posted by: DocHolliday
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: slick230
What are you driving that you consider a sports car and what wagon is she driving?

Check his sig! ;)


Oh my dear holy god... I'M A "NOOBTARD!!!!!"

LOL...Way to use my word!

Acaeton...is that the '06 RX-7? I'm sorry, but if you don't think that car is hawt (and going to liberally whip domestic sports-car ass) you're insane.

And someone at my work drives an NSX. It's nothing special. Waste of money, IMHO.

Heh, funny how you mixed up a '95 car for an '06. That why I <3 the FD3S.

'06 RX-7

Oh and Acura NSXs are no where near Honda NSXs from Japan IMO. Too bad the NSX-R was never available in US.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
If its anything german like an Audi avant rs6 wagon with 500 hp bi-turbo engine that pulls 330 km on the autobahn then ya, it probably is faster :)

Does anyone read the thread anymore?
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: exdeath
$17k new or used? The current models are $22k new.

And car in the $20k range now days will have a 200+ HP V6.

I didn't mean to come off so harsh, but I've been in that situation. I was in love with the Boxster S for a long time (similar to the 360 spider that I don't have the money for at the moment)

I just could not get over the weak 260 HP. 320 HP 3.6L would have been fine. To make it worse, there is hardly a aftermarket for newer porsches that doesnt cost $20,000 to turbo charge and then your still left with less than 400 HP on the Boxster.

I was not going to spend that much money on a Porsche to get smoked by a Nissans and cheap V6 mustangs that also have 260 HP and far bigger after market.

I ended up with a '03 Cobra with 390 HP factory and now with 600+ at the wheels.

I still like the Boxster, but I know if I had gotten it, I would have been pissed the first time a mustang or something wasted me. I don't have that problem with the Cobra.

People will say "oh but handling" and other nonsense. BS. There sure as hell aren't any "twisties" when someone in a "better handling" car pulls up in the lane next to you and starts revving... "twisties" only come into play after they've lost and they make excuses.

For example someone someone in a (making up numbers) 200 HP BMW will waste someone in a 100 HP 4 banger, but when a Cobra or Vette wastes the BMW they start talking about twisties... they are full of it.

Mine was $16,900 new with the sport suspension package and lsd.

lsd? 142 hp... LSD??? Why?

I used to tell people that my 86 Plymouth Reliant had traction control. It did too! 86 hp wasn't enough to break the tires free in the rain.