My gf just made an interesting point about the RIAA case w/colleges

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So it turns out that Columbia University is WILLINGLY sending the RIAA lists of students that download MP3s.. She just got a letter stating that this action is independent of any subpoenas?. Columbia is basically monitoring their network and then automatically sending your ass in to get sued? What?s interesting is that their hardcore stance against piracy contrasts with their stance on date-rape: if you?re guilty of date rape you can be put on probation or suspended? Basically, Columbia students are better off raping other students instead of downloading MP3s?
 

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so you get a second chance if you rape a girl but you pay loads of money if you download an mp3...... good idea columbia
 

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double post so i'll continue with what i forgot to say

i absolutely dont agree with rape and think it is one of the worst things you can do but i also dont agree with piracy but dont understand how a cd can cost up to 18 bucks for a single disk
 

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I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.
 
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Originally posted by: pyonir
I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.

Well, she wouldn't want to do that (she wants to go there for grad school as well) and it was more of an observation than a call for rebellion.. But it is odd, isn't it?
 

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Originally posted by: pyonir
I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.


Bad publicity works wonders, expecially when viewed by wealthy alumni.
 

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
so you get a second chance if you rape a girl but you pay loads of money if you download an mp3...... good idea columbia

Last I checked, you go to pound me in the ass prison if you are convicted of date rape.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pyonir
I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.

Well, she wouldn't want to do that (she wants to go there for grad school as well) and it was more of an observation than a call for rebellion.. But it is odd, isn't it?

No its not. Date rape is a criminal action. If convicted you will serve some form of jail time, then when you go back to Columbia you will either be suspended or put on probation. If you pirate you get your info sent to the RIAA and sued, but you are not put on probation or suspended.
 
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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pyonir
I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.

Well, she wouldn't want to do that (she wants to go there for grad school as well) and it was more of an observation than a call for rebellion.. But it is odd, isn't it?

No its not. Date rape is a criminal action. If convicted you will serve some form of jail time, then when you go back to Columbia you will either be suspended or put on probation. If you pirate you get your info sent to the RIAA and sued, but you are not put on probation or suspended.

But the difference is that Columbia is ACTIVELY enforcing the anti-piracy rules... Columbia is not the one filing charges for cases of date-rape, the victim is... As far as Columbia is concerned, probation/etc. is their final judgement and it's up to the victim the press further charges... The problem I have with their choice to actively persue pirates is an abstract one...
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pyonir
I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.

Well, she wouldn't want to do that (she wants to go there for grad school as well) and it was more of an observation than a call for rebellion.. But it is odd, isn't it?

No its not. Date rape is a criminal action. If convicted you will serve some form of jail time, then when you go back to Columbia you will either be suspended or put on probation. If you pirate you get your info sent to the RIAA and sued, but you are not put on probation or suspended.

But the difference is that Columbia is ACTIVELY enforcing the anti-piracy rules... Columbia is not the one filing charges for cases of date-rape, the victim is... As far as Columbia is concerned, probation/etc. is their final judgement and it's up to the victim the press further charges... The problem I have with their choice to actively persue pirates is an abstract one...

You have to be CONVICTED of date rape, in court, for Columbia to put you on probation, or suspension. Good lord. Talk about over reacting. Columbia is enforcing anti-piracy policy, because 1. students are abusing their services, and 2. because they are protecting their asses.

Like you said its up to the rape victim to file charges. If the accused is convicted then Columbia will put them on probation/suspension.
 

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: pyonir
I'd write a letter to the editorial section of your campus newspaper, and/or contact the media.

Well, she wouldn't want to do that (she wants to go there for grad school as well) and it was more of an observation than a call for rebellion.. But it is odd, isn't it?

No its not. Date rape is a criminal action. If convicted you will serve some form of jail time, then when you go back to Columbia you will either be suspended or put on probation. If you pirate you get your info sent to the RIAA and sued, but you are not put on probation or suspended.

But the difference is that Columbia is ACTIVELY enforcing the anti-piracy rules... Columbia is not the one filing charges for cases of date-rape, the victim is... As far as Columbia is concerned, probation/etc. is their final judgement and it's up to the victim the press further charges... The problem I have with their choice to actively persue pirates is an abstract one...

You have to be CONVICTED of date rape, in court, for Columbia to put you on probation, or suspension. Good lord. Talk about over reacting. Columbia is enforcing anti-piracy policy, because 1. students are abusing their services, and 2. because they are protecting their asses.

Like you said its up to the rape victim to file charges. If the accused is convicted then Columbia will put them on probation/suspension.

Seems like college kids would be smart enough to stay off Kazaa? Anyone remember prohibition?

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