My friend said "Jews control the media

b0mbrman

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Was talking with a Muslim friend today about politics (yeah, we're dorks :)) and we were going back and forth with American injustice toward Muslims/unfounded Muslim hate toward America. Then, almost from nowhere, she says:

"Anything you hear about goings on in Muslim countries is skewed because Jews control the media"

Well that was unexpected. My reply was to say:

"Uhhh. Before I ask the implications of that, what's your proof?"

Her:

"I need none, it's just common knowledge."

And how could I possibly argue with common knowledge? What bothers me about it is that it sounds like total rhetoric...like one item on a big laundry list that US/Israel-haters spout off.

Anyhow, I'm sure many of you are more informed than she or I. What is the proof (or disproof) of her statement? Also, what are the implications of it?
 

gopunk

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well they control hollywood. hollywood has long been considered by many to be the "jewish mafia". it's partially true, nearly all of the major studios were/are founded/owned by jews.

dunno about the media though.
 

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i mean, when the number 1 daily is "Ariel Finkelstein's Daily News" you would sort of think that people had figured it out.
 

DaejangNim

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well I don't think its coincidence that you hardly hear about the horrible things Israeli's do to Palestinians. IE: we never heard about Baruch Goldstein in the mainstream media, who killed 29 Palestinians in a mosque who were praying in 1994.
 

rommel

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yeah your friend is pretty much right...lol...that and diamonds...two most worthless things on the planet adn they have made them considered valuable and make tons of money from em...lol...uh except for the movie shrek...that was funny...lol
 

b0mbrman

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well I don't think its coincidence that you hardly hear about the horrible things Israeli's do to Palestinians. IE: we never heard about Baruch Goldstein in the mainstream media, who killed 29 Palestinians in a mosque who were praying in 1994.

But does that really prove anything? In the network nightly news, we rarely hear anything about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict because most Americans (sadly) don't care about it...
 

compuwiz1

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Jews controll the media? Get real. Maybe some people with controlling interests just happen to be jewish, but that is like saying all {insert race} are good or bad. It's false. :) On a side note, look at the way some Muslims, mostly extremists, view both Christians and Jews. Now, consider where that statement came from.
 

rommel

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yeah i think it does ..... hes right...they dont tell you how the beat on those people...you see the palastinians with rocks and sh*t and the jews roll in with armour...lol
 

b0mbrman

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Hmmm...I think Compuwiz might have something there. The statement "Jews control the media" is pretty vague now that I think of it because there are varying definitions of "control"

yeah i think it does ..... hes right...they dont tell you how the beat on those people...you see the palastinians with rocks and sh*t and the jews roll in with armour...lol

Bah. If you were hanging out with 3 of your IDF buddies and you saw a bunch of Palestinians with rocks in their hands walking toward you and you were sitting in a tank, would you (a) stay in your tank -or- (b) get out of your tank, take off your rifle and helmet, and pick up a rock?
 

DaejangNim

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<< On a side note, look at the way some Muslims, mostly extremists, view both Christians and Jews. >>

well if someone was a practicing orthodox jew, they would still believe in Old Testament laws, such as it is "ok" to enslave non-Jews, they are the "chosen" people, etc... So they don't really view Christians or Muslims as equals either.
 

rommel

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god has a sense of humor though...jews have to get along with rappers cuz all the money they are making in an industry thats predominatly been controlled by them.
 

SuperTool

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I beleive media being controlled by Jews has hurt Jews in the past.
For example the NY times didn't do frontpage story on the Holocaust during WW2 because they didn't want to appear as a jewish newspaper.
I think the reason the media is pro Israel is that the US government is pro-Israel, and media pretty much follows the party line when it comes to international politics.
 

b0mbrman

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Well how many Americans know who Sa'ed al Hotary is? He killed 21 Israelis just earlier this year...
 

Mday

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That is a somewhat closed minded statement that many who have issues with respect to anti-Semitism say, and this is not the first time I have heard it.

People are so stupid sometimes. I would say just ignore her, but I must assert that ignoring such problems will not make them go away. I pity her lack of open-mindedness.

Saying that the US is pro-Israel is not an incorrect statement. I interject that the US is rather, not anti-Israel, nor anti-Palestine.

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Speaking of WWII and the Jewish Holocaust, the US did contribute to some deaths due to the anti-Semitism which still exists today. Her shores turned away many ships containing Jewish refugees, some (though overwhelming majority would definitely not approve) knowing what a return back to Europe would mean.
 

rommel

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i think its more complicated then that...i think there is alot of buying that goes on behind the scenes...and there is no doubt that money is a big factor in politics...that combined with spin make anyone that can muster both a need partner or a really tuff advisary.....and not to make light of the holocaust cuz it was ugly...but then its been kept in the minds of people way longer then it would have normally been remembered...and i think thats to gain empathy and make people not want to appear anti semetic so they just dont go there...all these things are clever really adn shrewed..but it is basically manipulating and well just seems to get in the way...like feeling bad for slavery...well slavery is wrong...but i never owned anyone and no one in my family either.
 

aphex

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are you implying that we should forget about the holocaust? you think its manipulating?

please explain...
 

b0mbrman

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But what kind of concrete statements might someone use to prove/disprove that Jews control the media?
 

CJZ

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"I need none, it's just common knowledge."

What? How ignorant is your friend? It's common knowledge? The idea that Jews control the media is about as stupid as the idea that all Muslims are terrorists.


Some historians theorize that the current "Jews control the world" theory was popularized by a forgery called the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion". The book is suppose to be an account of meetings between leading Jews who are plotting to take over the world. The book is actually just a plagiarism of a 19th century French political satire aimed at Napoleon III (there were no Jewish people mentioned in this book). This forgery spread across Europe and was introduced to the US by Henry Ford's newspaper, "The Dearborn Independent" through a series of articles titled, "The International Jew: the World?s Foremost Problem". Ford later apoligized for his anti-semitism (it is unclear how legitimate his apology was). The "protocols" were used by the Nazis to justify their persecution of European Jews. Arab groups hostile to Israel have long used the "protocols" as a source of propaganda.

 

rommel

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well not forget it...remember it in that you should show mans inhumanity to man...but not make it like no one else ever has suffered at the hands of a maniacle ruler ...how many russians died in wwll....anyone feel bad for them?
 

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just curious..but how many WWII movies have been made in the past couple of years?

i always found them to be cheesy propaganda...so i never watch any.

If i wanted to learn about history...i wouldn't leave it to hollywood to educate me...

However, i see that many people do... dumb people...heh.

Thus, if you believe the media is influenced by jews...that's your opinion...
It would be rather difficult to prove, cause you are just alleging the jewish owned media companies are bias.

Anyways...never let media influence what you think is going on...that would be stupid...

You will ALWAYS run into bias media, whether it be NY times, or some locally owned newspaper.

so in conclusion...i find a lot of media is influenced by Jewish views. That is why i watch, laugh, and move on.

 

UberNeuman

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Jews kick my dog.
Muslims kick my dog.
Media kick my dog.

I think we've covered all the bases.
 

gopunk

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cjz, maybe if you would provide evidence that jews don't control the media, your argument would be stronger.