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alimoalem

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my friend can only get intel (i know, it sucks) and his budget for the cpu is about $450-600. i've only been keeping up to date with the amd news so i really need help. i know the dual cores run hot but it's the way to go now. i told him he should wait for the Core Duo but he needs it by the end of february

do you have any suggestions? could you please give reasons as to why i should pick that cpu over another? thanks in advance
 
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cpacini

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there really aren't that many dual core intel chips out right now, get which ever one fits in his budget best
 
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alimoalem

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Originally posted by: cpacini
there really aren't that many dual core intel chips out right now, get which ever one fits in his budget best
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i know there aren't many but i'm guessing he needs to go dual core. he though he would game but he's more into editing now so i told him he needs a dual core.


Originally posted by: A5
Which socket?

If it's Socket T (775), then this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116239

Personally, I'd get a 920 and bump up the clocks a little bit (3.2 GHz should be easy enough - just make sure to use some of the $200 savings to get some better cooling ;))
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socket doesn't matter. 775 is the newest (i think) so i'd prefer getting a s775 cpu cause he needs to buy a mobo too (not included in the $450-600 budget).

about getting the cheaper cpu and OCing, he can do the same with a more expensive cpu. if the 920 can hit 3.2 easy, the $600 cpu should hit 3.6 easily.

i'm guessing i shouldn't get my friend a xeon, right? they're just for servers?
 
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I also recommend the Pentium 940. That's the best one that will fit in his budget. The next step up is the 950.

Xeons are not designed for consumer use (games, etc.), although I assumed gaming is focus point in this system.
 
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alimoalem

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actually gaming isn't the focus point of the system, it's editing (photoshop, video editing, etc.)

he may play games but not too often and not at a hardcore level
 
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Originally posted by: alimoalem
Originally posted by: cpacini
there really aren't that many dual core intel chips out right now, get which ever one fits in his budget best
Click to expand...

i know there aren't many but i'm guessing he needs to go dual core. he though he would game but he's more into editing now so i told him he needs a dual core.


Originally posted by: A5
Which socket?

If it's Socket T (775), then this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116239

Personally, I'd get a 920 and bump up the clocks a little bit (3.2 GHz should be easy enough - just make sure to use some of the $200 savings to get some better cooling ;))
Click to expand...

socket doesn't matter. 775 is the newest (i think) so i'd prefer getting a s775 cpu cause he needs to buy a mobo too (not included in the $450-600 budget).

about getting the cheaper cpu and OCing, he can do the same with a more expensive cpu. if the 920 can hit 3.2 easy, the $600 cpu should hit 3.6 easily.

i'm guessing i shouldn't get my friend a xeon, right? they're just for servers?
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The 920 has as much headway as the 940. The 920 can get 34.6 easily too.
 
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Originally posted by: alimoalem
actually gaming isn't the focus point of the system, it's editing (photoshop, video editing, etc.)

he may play games but not too often and not at a hardcore level
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Well, I'm not sure of the performace difference between xeons and pentiums in regards to those tasks/software, but the cheapest dual core xeon is >$1000, so stick with the Pentium 940. Or 950 if he wants to spend $650+.

BTW, Photoshop will make use of both cores.
 
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otispunkmeyer

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: alimoalem
Originally posted by: cpacini
there really aren't that many dual core intel chips out right now, get which ever one fits in his budget best
Click to expand...

i know there aren't many but i'm guessing he needs to go dual core. he though he would game but he's more into editing now so i told him he needs a dual core.


Originally posted by: A5
Which socket?

If it's Socket T (775), then this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116239

Personally, I'd get a 920 and bump up the clocks a little bit (3.2 GHz should be easy enough - just make sure to use some of the $200 savings to get some better cooling ;))
Click to expand...

socket doesn't matter. 775 is the newest (i think) so i'd prefer getting a s775 cpu cause he needs to buy a mobo too (not included in the $450-600 budget).

about getting the cheaper cpu and OCing, he can do the same with a more expensive cpu. if the 920 can hit 3.2 easy, the $600 cpu should hit 3.6 easily.

i'm guessing i shouldn't get my friend a xeon, right? they're just for servers?
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The 920 has as much headway as the 940. The 920 can get 34.6 easily too.
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id love a 34.6Ghz CPU :p
 
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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: alimoalem
Originally posted by: cpacini
there really aren't that many dual core intel chips out right now, get which ever one fits in his budget best
Click to expand...

i know there aren't many but i'm guessing he needs to go dual core. he though he would game but he's more into editing now so i told him he needs a dual core.


Originally posted by: A5
Which socket?

If it's Socket T (775), then this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116239

Personally, I'd get a 920 and bump up the clocks a little bit (3.2 GHz should be easy enough - just make sure to use some of the $200 savings to get some better cooling ;))
Click to expand...

socket doesn't matter. 775 is the newest (i think) so i'd prefer getting a s775 cpu cause he needs to buy a mobo too (not included in the $450-600 budget).

about getting the cheaper cpu and OCing, he can do the same with a more expensive cpu. if the 920 can hit 3.2 easy, the $600 cpu should hit 3.6 easily.

i'm guessing i shouldn't get my friend a xeon, right? they're just for servers?
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The 920 has as much headway as the 940. The 920 can get 34.6 easily too.
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id love a 34.6Ghz CPU :p
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Yes, me too. BUt too bad I meant 3.6 and my keyboard sucks.
 
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alimoalem

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TO ALL THE AMD FANBOYS/GIRLS:

my friend currently has (well had) an amd based system. one of the pins on his 3200 magically disappeared so now it doesn't work. here's his situation: he can get 40% off intel so he wants to try and get that. but if a $300 amd cpu still owns the $500 intel (300 is 60% of 500) then he will buy amd. no need to worry or fret over nothing. it's simly a matter of value.

to all of you that have replied, thanks so much. but because of his situation, please don't recommend the $300 and lower cpus. there really is no point in him going that route.
 
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stevty2889

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I recomend a penitum-d 940 if that fits in his budget, or even the 950. The preslers do run cooler than the smithfields. If he overclocks it be sure not to feed it too much voltage..although I'm not entirely sure thats what killed one of the cores on my 920 :(

EDIT: well if he's willing to go AMD, then get a 4200 or 4400+, at stock speeds, they will perform better than the intel chips in the price range at stock speeds. @3.7ghz my presler was keeping up with my 4200+ @ 2.618ghz, but then one of the cores died on my presler.
 
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alimoalem

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well he really doesn't want to spend more than $300 on the cpu. i have seen sales on the 4200's so i'll tell him to go with one of those or a 940.

stevty, you're basically saying MHz for MHz, the 4200x2 is about 1.5 times faster than the 940? i'll tell him that too.

so if one of the cores dies, the other one still works? even for the X2's?

thanks for your help stevty
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
well he really doesn't want to spend more than $300 on the cpu. i have seen sales on the 4200's so i'll tell him to go with one of those or a 940.

stevty, you're basically saying MHz for MHz, the 4200x2 is about 1.5 times faster than the 940? i'll tell him that too.

so if one of the cores dies, the other one still works? even for the X2's?

thanks for your help stevty
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Yep, clock for clock the X2 is about 1.5 times faster, but basicly the presler didn't really beat it at anything, it either caught up to it or was still slightly behind at 3.7. I think the only reason the other core is still working on the motherboard it's on, is because for some reason the hyperthreading settings stays available, and turns the second core on and off, normaly the hyperthreading option wouldn't be available, so it only works on that motherboard. Not sure if they X2 would still function if for some strange reason one of the cores died.
 
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Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: alimoalem
so the 4mb of cache really doesn't do much? what is the cache used for anyways?
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It's used by programs but the problem with the cache is that it isn't exactly THAT FAST and not enough programs are optimized to take advantage of it so it's basically useless. My P4 2.8C At 3.5 runs in between the 560 and 580 processor (performance wise).
 
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TheRyuu

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Opter 165+New HS+Overclock

OR

X2 3800+ +New HS+Overclock

OR

P920D+New HS+Overclock
 
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