My five-month GTX 275 RMA

Liet

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Hi folks,

Wow. I told myself I'd post an update once this situation was all resolved. That was five months ago...

Since I'm in no mood to document the entire process, here's a summary. :)

- Buy ECS GTX 275 from Newegg on December 30th. No other GTX 275s available at the time, while the ECS is cheeeeeeap and comes with a monster Arctic Cooler included.

- Card starts to artifact under load, and dies 6 weeks later (even the BIOS VGA-mode was completely garbled). Can't RMA to Newegg as 1 month has passed.

- Contact ECS support, send in screenshots, send in card, wait for replacement.

- Receive replacement, on arrival heatsink is misaligned. Right after installation the card displayed some weird rippling artifacts and locked up occasionally when under load. RMAed the second card, ECS stress-tests and confirms card is faulty, and agree to ship a third.

- ECS is out of stock, so they buy back a card from Newegg so ECS can send it to me.

- I do some thinking. Since it's been 5 months since I made the original purchase, I decide that a 275 is a waste of money and I should just get a 5870. I ask Newegg if I can send the unopened GTX 275 I'm about to receive back to them. They tell me no, and no store credit... because this new 275, which ECS got from Newegg, doesn't have the same serial number as the original card that I RMAed back to ECS in February... They want me to get THAT card back... from ECS... THEN RMA it to Newegg.

- I spend a few minutes, with blood pouring out of my eats, attempting to understand why Newegg wants me to get a card from ECS to send to them so they can send it back to ECS and I can buy a new card from Newegg.

- Take a deep breath and call back 5 minutes later, ask for a supervisor. She understands my annoyance, and agrees to give me full store credit once I return the third GTX 275 from ECS.

It was a good thing I still had my 8800 GT... It's a little disappointing that I had to speak to a Newegg supervisor. Their customer service has always impressed me and I expected them to make it right immediately, without my having to ask for a supervisor. If a customer purchases something in December, and it still isn't functioning by May... you make it right to them.

It should be noted that ECS Support / RMA was as helpful as they could be (while lower echelon Newegg CS really disappointed me). Send in screenshot of the problem to ECS, send in card, wait for replacement - all as it should be. My RMA dude and I emailed each other back and forth directly, and he really tried hard on my behalf, without my having to put any pressure on him. He actually called my cell to confirm my shipping address so he could send out my 3rd RMA card ASAP.

I suppose the moral of the story is: RMAs can take a long time. Deep, I know!
 

zerocool84

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This is why I only buy cards from companies with great reputations. ECS makes cheap/low quality motherboards and wouldn't buy an expensive gfx card from them. I'll pay a little more to buy from EVGA/XFX/etc so I get good support in case something happens.
 

Sylvanas

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Well, it seems there was nothing wrong with ECS's support- the OP seems to be pleased with how they went, it's more Newegg's lack of support that was the problem. As I've learned through much hassle in setting up my new net connection, it all depends on who you get at the other end that determines how well your issue will be sorted. Sometimes it's a brick wall, in that case I've learned to wait a while and call at a different time as sometimes other operators are much more helpful.

Hope you get it sorted OP.
 

nitromullet

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Well, you can't really fault newegg for only wanting to give a refund/credit on a card they could verify they sold. IMO, they went out of their way to issue you a refund for a card you could have really bought anywhere... I'm sure if you had issues with the card and contacted newegg in the first 30 days, they would have taken care of you no questions asked.

The fault here lies with ECS. The card was still under their warranty period, and while the RMA guy was cool the company still never sent you a working replacement within a reasonable time frame... You're actually lucky newegg decided to bend their rules (and most likely eat the cost) to make a customer happy past the stated warranty. ECS on the other hand screwed you as their customer and newegg as a retail partner.

...next time buy EVGA...
 

Will Robinson

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Sounds like those GTX275 Nvidia cards are nasty.
Guess Cuda,Physx and 3D aren't quite enough compensation for shoddy manufacturing...:\
 

happy medium

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Sounds like those GTX275 Nvidia cards are nasty.
Guess Cuda,Physx and 3D aren't quite enough compensation for shoddy manufacturing...:\

Yea all 10 million of them, because of one ESC card. :rolleyes:

You are becomming the the new tk2/Rollo with your retarded comments.
 

Liet

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Well, you can't really fault newegg for only wanting to give a refund/credit on a card they could verify they sold. IMO, they went out of their way to issue you a refund for a card you could have really bought anywhere... I'm sure if you had issues with the card and contacted newegg in the first 30 days, they would have taken care of you no questions asked.

The fault here lies with ECS. The card was still under their warranty period, and while the RMA guy was cool the company still never sent you a working replacement within a reasonable time frame... You're actually lucky newegg decided to bend their rules (and most likely eat the cost) to make a customer happy past the stated warranty. ECS on the other hand screwed you as their customer and newegg as a retail partner.

...next time buy EVGA...

Nitro: Sorry, I should've specified that the Newegg supervisor pretty quickly agreed to help me, and she contacted the helpful ECS RMA guy directly to confirm the entire thing, including serial numbers - which is what the tier 1 support should've been able to do. Instead, Tier 1 told me to get a broken card (RMAed 4 months earlier) from ECS, send it to Newegg, so Newegg can send that same broken card BACK to ECS for a stock replacement, which Newegg already HAD because ECS had to buy me a new one from Newegg! :)

I remember Tier 1 being much more helpful a few years back. I don't blame them, but they really should've said "Wow, we sold a customer a card 5 months ago he still can't use - I'd better transfer this call to someone who has the authority to make a judgement call"

You're absolutely right, the main fault lies with ECS for providing me with two defective cards. I took a gamble on getting a good card from a vendor with no major consumer presence, and I lost. Needless to say I'm never buying from them again - I'm just giving their Support/RMA dept. their justly-earned recognition for being honorable and helping me out.

Usually I buy eVGA... but Newegg were out of stock at Christmas, and the card was a gift to me from my boss which I had to buy right then. Nice boss, huh? :)

Overall just a sucky situation, that will hopefully be settled this week once I send the third GTX 275 directly to Newegg for credit.
 

nitromullet

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Yeah, I didn't want it to sound like I was implying you messed up or were at fault. ...because you aren't... Newegg really should have never had to get involved in the first place, but did so only to cover ECS' ineptitude. Glad you got the situation sorted out though.

Sorry for you troubles, should have known ECS is worst company next to Acer. Buy a known vendor and pay that 20 or 30 bucks more.. gl

HIS Tech is horrible as well. They don't even handle their RMA's directly but leave it up to their US distributor, Lexicorp, to handle their RMA's for them. Lexicorp's RMA department appears to consists of one guy that answers the phone to tell you that your card hasn't gotten back yet. He is a nice guy and all, but that doesn't get my card back any faster.
 
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bleucharm28

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This is why I only buy cards from companies with great reputations. ECS makes cheap/low quality motherboards and wouldn't buy an expensive gfx card from them. I'll pay a little more to buy from EVGA/XFX/etc so I get good support in case something happens.

I totally agree with zerocool84. I think is better to spend the extra 50-100 bucks not only to purchase a good product, but also the support you get.
 

blanketyblank

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I don't think there was a problem with ECS' support, but it does sound to me like their products especially graphics cards are still inferior to other manufacturers. Their MOBOs are great for what they are cheap MOBOs, but for something expensive I'd certainly pay the extra money just so it's less likely I'll have to deal with CS in the first place.
Also I don't think any company reimburses you for shipping, and that's at least $10 right there not to mention the hassle of buying and installing temporary hardware.
 

ZimZum

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This is why I only buy cards from companies with great reputations. ECS makes cheap/low quality motherboards and wouldn't buy an expensive gfx card from them. I'll pay a little more to buy from EVGA/XFX/etc so I get good support in case something happens.

Pretty sure most of the board partners don't actually manufacture the cards. They get them from NV/ATI and slap on a sticker and sometimes a custom cooler