My first student film (16mm) is done!

[slackerinabox]

If anyone cares, the shoot I asked you guys to help me pick actors for is finally done! A quicktime clip will be posted once I get the film converted - here's a group pic taken from that day if you're curious as to which actors I finally went with...



From left to right:
Joyce - my classmate and assistant director
Eric - My pal since my h.s. days
Ed- Our talented actor
Shara - Our talented actress (who everyone was hitting on.. idiots!)
Rose- My wonderful gf
Sam- our tubby director (me)

 

[toekramp]

best of luck 🙂 or break a leg or whatever 🙂

 

[iamme]

ah congrats, can't wait to see it.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Quicktime? Blah.

When you're ready to use a real codec, I'll be more than glad to recompress it. 😉

- M4H

 

[bleeb]

Yeah finally some ATOTer is being creative and shiet.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Quicktime? Blah.

When you're ready to use a real codec, I'll be more than glad to recompress it. 😉

- M4H

Haha, well, most of us in the film bizz (or those who want to get into it 😉 ) use QT... I'll post it in WMV as well for you guys who embrace all things M$ . Hell, you can download the dvd rip if you have the bandwidth 🙂

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Quicktime? Blah.

When you're ready to use a real codec, I'll be more than glad to recompress it. 😉

- M4H

Haha, well, most of us in the film bizz (or those who want to get into it 😉 ) use QT... I'll post it in WMV as well for you guys who embrace all things M$ . You can download the dvd rip if you have the bandwidth 🙂

If you've got the hosting space, I'd appreciate the raw .VOBs to work with. We'll have a "Compression Showdown" and meet back tonight for final judgement. 😉

- M4H

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Quicktime? Blah.

When you're ready to use a real codec, I'll be more than glad to recompress it. 😉

- M4H

Haha, well, most of us in the film bizz (or those who want to get into it 😉 ) use QT... I'll post it in WMV as well for you guys who embrace all things M$ . You can download the dvd rip if you have the bandwidth 🙂

If you've got the hosting space, I'd appreciate the raw .VOBs to work with. We'll have a "Compression Showdown" and meet back tonight for final judgement. 😉

- M4H

I'm getting it professionally converted from 16mm film to miniDV - from there I can give you the raw AVI captures... Should be fairly large but it'll be better quality than the DVD's vobs...

 

[pulse8]

Is there a reason you didn't go to DVCAM instead?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Quicktime? Blah.

When you're ready to use a real codec, I'll be more than glad to recompress it. 😉

- M4H

Haha, well, most of us in the film bizz (or those who want to get into it 😉 ) use QT... I'll post it in WMV as well for you guys who embrace all things M$ . You can download the dvd rip if you have the bandwidth 🙂

If you've got the hosting space, I'd appreciate the raw .VOBs to work with. We'll have a "Compression Showdown" and meet back tonight for final judgement. 😉

- M4H

I'm getting it professionally converted from 16mm film to miniDV - from there I can give you the raw AVI captures... Should be fairly large but it'll be better quality than the DVD's vobs...

I'm on a 4mbit downstream. Bring it on. 😀

- M4H

 

[Liviathan]

Thats great...I'm not a film student but have lots of digital video equipment and I'm trying to come up with ideas for a short film to amuse myself.

Good Luck.

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
If anyone cares, the shoot I asked you guys to help me pick actors for is finally done! A quicktime clip will be posted once I get the film converted - here's a group pic taken from that day if you're curious as to which actors I finally went with...



From left to right:
Joyce - my classmate and assistant director
Eric - My pal since my h.s. days
Ed- Our talented actor
Shara - Our talented actress (who everyone was hitting on.. idiots!)
Rose- My wonderful gf
Sam- our tubby director (me)

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: pulse8
Is there a reason you didn't go to DVCAM instead?

DV cam is basically glorified MiniDV (of course DV cam is more robust and offers less drop out)... 16mm footage is gorgeous and worth all the time and effort (I used to shoot on hi-end 3ccd Sony and Canon DV cameras but am slowly moving to film).. Film is higher resolution, has deeper contrast, and the movement is more film like (duh.. it's film!).. My next camera will be either an Ari-S 16mm camera or a Panasonic progressive scan (24fps) camera depending on how my film shoots go...

EDIT: I would consider DV again if a sub-$5,000 HD 24p camera came out.. But I'd have to get 400gigs of storage to edit!

EDIT 2: I should also add that I had to use film as it's a film production class and not a video production class.. But, yeah, I hated working with DV (have been shooting and editing DV for years) but working with film makes you feel like an artist.. It's an odd feeling - with video you can just press the red button.. With film you HAVE to know how to set focus blindly [using a tape measure], how to set your f-stop, how to use the light meter, etc. etc. etc... It's harder but it feels like a craft... Though I LOVE editing on DV... Final Cut pro is an awesome app and using these huge clunky machines to splice and join film gets annoying (and takes a long time too)

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Quicktime? Blah.

When you're ready to use a real codec, I'll be more than glad to recompress it. 😉

- M4H

Haha, well, most of us in the film bizz (or those who want to get into it 😉 ) use QT... I'll post it in WMV as well for you guys who embrace all things M$ . You can download the dvd rip if you have the bandwidth 🙂

If you've got the hosting space, I'd appreciate the raw .VOBs to work with. We'll have a "Compression Showdown" and meet back tonight for final judgement. 😉

- M4H

I'm getting it professionally converted from 16mm film to miniDV - from there I can give you the raw AVI captures... Should be fairly large but it'll be better quality than the DVD's vobs...

The catpures as AVI's will be 3min ~ 700mb!

Koing

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: pulse8
Is there a reason you didn't go to DVCAM instead?

DV cam is basically glorified MiniDV (of course DV cam is more robust and offers less drop out)... 16mm footage is gorgeous and worth all the time and effort (I used to shoot on hi-end 3ccd Sony and Canon DV cameras but am slowly moving to film).. Film is higher resolution, has deeper contrast, and the movement is more film like (duh.. it's film!).. My next camera will be either an Ari-S 16mm camera or a Panasonic progressive scan (24fps) camera depending on how my film shoots go...

EDIT: I would consider DV again if a sub-$5,000 HD 24p camera came out.. But I'd have to get 400gigs of storage to edit!

EDIT 2: I should also add that I had to use film as it's a film production class and not a video production class.. But, yeah, I hated working with DV (have been shooting and editing DV for years) but working with film makes you feel like an artist.. It's an odd feeling - with video you can just press the red button.. With film you HAVE to know how to set focus blindly [using a tape measure], how to set your f-stop, how to use the light meter, etc. etc. etc... It's harder but it feels like a craft... Though I LOVE editing on DV... Final Cut pro is an awesome app and using these huge clunky machines to splice and join film gets annoying (and takes a long time too)

Well, my main reason for asking is that DVCAM is actually a higher quality format and is much more durable. I was wondering if there was a price reason for not going to DVCAM. I agree that film is much better than shooting DV. I'd rather shoot something at 16mm or even 8mm over DV, but if it's a project you intend on wanting to keep quality up with, you should definitely consider getting DigiBeta transfers and a DV clone to edit with.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: pulse8
Is there a reason you didn't go to DVCAM instead?

DV cam is basically glorified MiniDV (of course DV cam is more robust and offers less drop out)... 16mm footage is gorgeous and worth all the time and effort (I used to shoot on hi-end 3ccd Sony and Canon DV cameras but am slowly moving to film).. Film is higher resolution, has deeper contrast, and the movement is more film like (duh.. it's film!).. My next camera will be either an Ari-S 16mm camera or a Panasonic progressive scan (24fps) camera depending on how my film shoots go...

EDIT: I would consider DV again if a sub-$5,000 HD 24p camera came out.. But I'd have to get 400gigs of storage to edit!

EDIT 2: I should also add that I had to use film as it's a film production class and not a video production class.. But, yeah, I hated working with DV (have been shooting and editing DV for years) but working with film makes you feel like an artist.. It's an odd feeling - with video you can just press the red button.. With film you HAVE to know how to set focus blindly [using a tape measure], how to set your f-stop, how to use the light meter, etc. etc. etc... It's harder but it feels like a craft... Though I LOVE editing on DV... Final Cut pro is an awesome app and using these huge clunky machines to splice and join film gets annoying (and takes a long time too)

Well, my main reason for asking is that DVCAM is actually a higher quality format and is much more durable. I was wondering if there was a price reason for not going to DVCAM. I agree that film is much better than shooting DV. I'd rather shoot something at 16mm or even 8mm over DV, but if it's a project you intend on wanting to keep quality up with, you should definitely consider getting DigiBeta transfers and a DV clone to edit with.

You're right.. I should go for a digibeta xfer over miniDV to keep the quality up.. I do not have digibeta equipment though so I'm just dumping to miniDv for now.. It's mostly just for my actors' portfolios and personal use - I'll keep the 16mm footage in case I ever want to do another transfer.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: pulse8
Is there a reason you didn't go to DVCAM instead?

DV cam is basically glorified MiniDV (of course DV cam is more robust and offers less drop out)... 16mm footage is gorgeous and worth all the time and effort (I used to shoot on hi-end 3ccd Sony and Canon DV cameras but am slowly moving to film).. Film is higher resolution, has deeper contrast, and the movement is more film like (duh.. it's film!).. My next camera will be either an Ari-S 16mm camera or a Panasonic progressive scan (24fps) camera depending on how my film shoots go...

EDIT: I would consider DV again if a sub-$5,000 HD 24p camera came out.. But I'd have to get 400gigs of storage to edit!

EDIT 2: I should also add that I had to use film as it's a film production class and not a video production class.. But, yeah, I hated working with DV (have been shooting and editing DV for years) but working with film makes you feel like an artist.. It's an odd feeling - with video you can just press the red button.. With film you HAVE to know how to set focus blindly [using a tape measure], how to set your f-stop, how to use the light meter, etc. etc. etc... It's harder but it feels like a craft... Though I LOVE editing on DV... Final Cut pro is an awesome app and using these huge clunky machines to splice and join film gets annoying (and takes a long time too)

Well, my main reason for asking is that DVCAM is actually a higher quality format and is much more durable. I was wondering if there was a price reason for not going to DVCAM. I agree that film is much better than shooting DV. I'd rather shoot something at 16mm or even 8mm over DV, but if it's a project you intend on wanting to keep quality up with, you should definitely consider getting DigiBeta transfers and a DV clone to edit with.

You're right.. I should go for a digibeta xfer over miniDV to keep the quality up.. I do not have digibeta equipment though so I'm just dumping to miniDv for now.. It's mostly just for my actors' portfolios and personal use - I'll keep the 16mm footage in case I ever want to do another transfer.

So you're cutting it on 16mm?

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: pulse8
Is there a reason you didn't go to DVCAM instead?

DV cam is basically glorified MiniDV (of course DV cam is more robust and offers less drop out)... 16mm footage is gorgeous and worth all the time and effort (I used to shoot on hi-end 3ccd Sony and Canon DV cameras but am slowly moving to film).. Film is higher resolution, has deeper contrast, and the movement is more film like (duh.. it's film!).. My next camera will be either an Ari-S 16mm camera or a Panasonic progressive scan (24fps) camera depending on how my film shoots go...

EDIT: I would consider DV again if a sub-$5,000 HD 24p camera came out.. But I'd have to get 400gigs of storage to edit!

EDIT 2: I should also add that I had to use film as it's a film production class and not a video production class.. But, yeah, I hated working with DV (have been shooting and editing DV for years) but working with film makes you feel like an artist.. It's an odd feeling - with video you can just press the red button.. With film you HAVE to know how to set focus blindly [using a tape measure], how to set your f-stop, how to use the light meter, etc. etc. etc... It's harder but it feels like a craft... Though I LOVE editing on DV... Final Cut pro is an awesome app and using these huge clunky machines to splice and join film gets annoying (and takes a long time too)

Well, my main reason for asking is that DVCAM is actually a higher quality format and is much more durable. I was wondering if there was a price reason for not going to DVCAM. I agree that film is much better than shooting DV. I'd rather shoot something at 16mm or even 8mm over DV, but if it's a project you intend on wanting to keep quality up with, you should definitely consider getting DigiBeta transfers and a DV clone to edit with.

You're right.. I should go for a digibeta xfer over miniDV to keep the quality up.. I do not have digibeta equipment though so I'm just dumping to miniDv for now.. It's mostly just for my actors' portfolios and personal use - I'll keep the 16mm footage in case I ever want to do another transfer.

So you're cutting it on 16mm?

Yep- this production is 100% old school 😉