my first post from Mandrake 7.2

Soccerman

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I'm feeling confused (still, I've installed this 3 times in my entire life), yet this time very optimistic of what I will learn this time around!

got a few questions.. you know how windows has such an easy pattern to it.. everything has it's place, and is easy to find.

with Linux, where are all the configuration files?

I somehow got this 3com 2976 56k PCI modem to work (a guy on Linuxnewbie came out of the blue, and just gave me a set of commands to use to get it to work).

now I need to figure out the audio.. I'm using an Aureal Vortex 2 soundcard.

after I get audio working, I'll start fiddling around with everything.. it works pretty darn sweet now (though I didn't have much room to put it on, it sure seems somewhat bloated.. but it's not slow.. reaction times are very good (possibly because I have 96 megs of SDRAM). another oddity occured... KDE doesn't seem to be installed. I'm typing this from GNOME (which has been quite a good interface so far, lots of options to deal with).

another problem to probably most users is when looking through the file manager, you haven't a clue what half the file TYPES are, let alone what they DO!

forgot a few things..

I can't for the life of me figure out hot to put kppp somewhere else besides the taskbar (the bar where all running programs are shown). is it possible to make it kind of like the CPU monitor, where you can see that it is there, but doesn't appear to be a normal program (like say netscape).

also, netscape text is extremely small. this makes it somewhat hard to read, but the rest of linux seems to be fine.. should I just forget it, and download mozilla for linux (and delete Netscape 4.75 in the process, cause I'm low on space)?
 

Elledan

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I think that downloading Mozilla and using it instead of Netscape would be a good idea, and if Mozilla is just as quick as Netscape, it's certainly worth it. (5 seconds to start the program and <1 second for the next page on my Cellie 400, 64 Mb Linux box with NS 4.7. Note that I've cable internet ;) )
 

lagvoid

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im about to try linux for the FIRST time :) been downloading forever! hope everything goes ok for me. good luck on your part
 

thornc

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Soccerman,

I think you need to learn a few basics about the Linux FileSystem, everything has its place...
For instance the configuration files are in /etc directory,you should read a few Howtos and Guides I can't tell all of them but look at this one:

&quot;The Linux System Administrators' Guide&quot;

I don't know if you installed the necessary packages or if your sound is supported under linux
but try doing a &quot;sndconfig&quot; in a shell (preferbly a console shell) and see if it can detect your
sound card.

As for the netscape text, you need to change the font in netscape select Edit->Preferences, this
will display the configuration windows, you can change the font in the Appearance->Fonts.

If you need any help just ask, we'll be glad to help.

Have fun
 

Shuxclams

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Linux fonts trick care of &quot;Damaged&quot;



<< Zip up all of the fonts from your \Windows\Fonts directory on your Windows box. Transfer the file to your Linux box.

1) mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/ttf/msfonts

2) mv foo.zip !$/ (move) the zip file to the directory you just created (the bang dollar means take the last argument I typed and use it again. Great time saver. Learn to love it).

2a) cd !$ almost forgot that part! Sorry.

3) unzip foo.zip

4) mkttfdir > fonts.scale

5) mkfontdir

6) chkfontpath --add /usr/share/fonts/ttf/msfonts

7) chkfontpath --list to check that's it's there.

8) Close and reopen Netscape, then Edit->Preferences, and choose your font
>>






SHUX
 

Soccerman

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ahh..

ok, I tried going to that Aureal site many times, and I couldn't get to it at all.

I then tried the vortex of sound site, and did fine up to the 'make install' command.. it gives me this message:
#make install
cc -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DAU8830 -0 -Wall -pipe -m486 -I/usr/src/linux/include -fomit-frame-pointer -c -o vortex.0 vortex.c
make: cc: Command not found
make: *** [vortex.o] Error 127

what does this mean?

I have not tried getting audio to work before, so this is my first real stab at it.

it looks like it works up until one point

also, there are other 'versions' that have been made by others to make it more stable. should I try them?

edit, I just tried the 1.1.1 drivers, and got pretty much the same error message..
 

Damaged

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Means you don't have a compiler installed. The rpm is on the cd and is called: gcc-2.95.2-12.mdk.i586.rpm. Intsall that and you will be able to compile that source code.

Also, with regard to the font thang make sure all the font names are in lower case otherwise it won't work.
 

Soccerman

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heh, well I installed those packedges, and it got a little farther. I'll edit in the exact error it gives me now (lol).

well there's a whole slew of errors, probably caused by the first one..

I'll give you the first few lines:

/sbin/depmod -a
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2/2/17-21mdksecure/misc/au8830.0
/sbin/rmmod au8830
rmmod: module au8830 is not loaded
make :[install] Error 1 (ignored)

well then it goes and makes a whole list of errors.

so what did I do wrong this time?

do I have to install more programming language kits?

I have another problem that's been around ever since I began with this version of linux.

everytime I start Linux, I get this message:

Probing With Status (oxff) instead of Allstatus (ox08)
Probing With Status (oxff) instead of Allstatus (ox08)
no response, (status = 0xff), resetting drive
Probing With Status (oxff) instead of Allstatus (ox08)
no response, (status = 0xff)

it does this 4 times before quitting. it does it on HDi HDj HDk and HDl.

it takes forever.. I suspect it thinks I might have another IDE controller card, but I don't (I have a Promise ATA66 controller card, and an onboard ATA-33 controller card.

it seems to find those devices perfectly fine, and then continues to do that prob for non existant hard drives..

sorry for all the trouble, but I need your help as much as possible until I can get on my feet and start doing this myself.. reading that much data takes a LONG time..
 

Damaged

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Yeah, woop! The module is not loaded. Big deal. Not a big deal.

That's your only problem now. So...depmod -a and you should be golden. :)
 

Soccerman

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:)

ok I tried that..

it still does the exact same thing when I try doing the 'make install' command.

/sbin/depmod -a
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2/2/17-21mdksecure/misc/au8830.o
/sbin/rmmod au8830
rmmod: module au8830 is not loaded
make :[install] Error 1 (ignored)


is what I still get.. it sounds to me like there is more programming languages that I need to install.

but first, I've been trying to install the Beta 1.1.1 drivers, i'll try again on the 1.0.5 drivers, just to be sure.

EDIT:

I just tried the 1.0.5's as well, and they didn't work. same problem (unrecognized symbols..)