my firefox just updated to firefox 36?

[nemesismk2]

my firefox 35 just updated to firefox 36. it doesn't seem to be any better and i will try to find some info about firefox 36.

 

[Ketchup]

Firefox Hello

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/

 

[Chiefcrowe]

Release notes are here now

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/36.0/releasenotes

 

[MontyAC]

Mine updated.

 

[corkyg]

Does it fix the YouTube problem>

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2421425

 

[ninaholic37]

Firefox Hello

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/

My Firefox 35.0.1 had this too. My 2004 laptop doesn't even have a video camera so I removed it from the menu. :awe:

 

[Ketchup]

My Firefox 35.0.1 had this too. My 2004 laptop doesn't even have a video camera so I removed that icon from the menu. :awe:

I ignored it also, oh well. I guess they were rehashing the old "new" features.

 

[ninaholic37]

I noticed that each version of Firefox seems to be getting bigger.

Zipped:

FF36 - 46M
FF35 - 45M
FF34 - 44M
FF33 - 41M
FF32 - 40M
FF31 - 38M
FF30 - 36M
FF29 - 35M
FF28 - 30M
FF27 - 29M
FF25 - 28M
FF23 - 25M
FF22 - 24M
FF21 - 23M
FF20 - 22M
FF17 - 20M
FF16 - 19M
FF15 - 18M
FF13 - 17M
FF10 - 16M
FF08 - 15M
FF06 - 14M
FF04 - 13M
FF 3.6.28 - 10M

I've had to resize my savefile twice since Firefox 17 from 64M to 96M (Firefox 29), and from 96M to 128M (Firefox 36) just to keep up. It seems that it's guaranteed when you choose to upgrade or replace your old version (I always just delete my old Firefox directory then unzip the tar.gz file to the same directory), each new version will take up slightly more room in your Firefox folder than the last version.

 

[ninaholic37]

Does it fix the YouTube problem>

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2421425

There's this questionable fix for enabling MSE in HTML5 (your mileage may vary)

 

[corkyg]

So far, no one answered my question. It requires only a yes or a no.

So, i'll recast. Witihout making any adjustments to Windows, will this FF update allow you to use YouTube?

 

[mikeymikec]

FF 35/36 and YT with Flash works fine for me without making any adjustments.

I noticed that each version of Firefox seems to be getting bigger.

Yep. I remember when FF was a ~4MB download, and was pitched as the non-bloated browser. But then, the Internet has come a long way since then But then, FF 17's win32 installer is 18MB, I'm not sure I can say that the Internet has come a long way to justify the installer's size increasing by more than double. GC's standalone installer is smaller than FF's by the looks of it.

 

[sweenish]

So far, no one answered my question. It requires only a yes or a no.

So, i'll recast. Witihout making any adjustments to Windows, will this FF update allow you to use YouTube?

Why don't you try it yourself?

I understand you want to save yourself some time, but you're just trying to pawn the check off. Check it yourself. Use a portable version to test, and you don't even have to roll back.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

I haven't had any issues with FF and YT recently.


Chrome's installer may be small but AFAIK the actually installation is quite big, maybe around a couple 100 MB.

FF 35/36 and YT with Flash works fine for me without making any adjustments.



Yep. I remember when FF was a ~4MB download, and was pitched as the non-bloated browser. But then, the Internet has come a long way since then But then, FF 17's win32 installer is 18MB, I'm not sure I can say that the Internet has come a long way to justify the installer's size increasing by more than double. GC's standalone installer is smaller than FF's by the looks of it.

 

[Jodell88]

Yep. I remember when FF was a ~4MB download, and was pitched as the non-bloated browser. But then, the Internet has come a long way since then But then, FF 17's win32 installer is 18MB, I'm not sure I can say that the Internet has come a long way to justify the installer's size increasing by more than double. GC's standalone installer is smaller than FF's by the looks of it.

Name           : google-chrome-dev
Version        : 42.0.2311.4-1
Description    : An attempt at creating a safer, faster, and more stable browser
                 (Dev Channel)
Architecture   : x86_64
URL            : https://www.google.com/chrome/index.html
Licenses       : custom:chrome
Groups         : None
Provides       : google-chrome=42.0.2311.4
Depends On     : alsa-lib  desktop-file-utils  flac  gconf  gtk2  harfbuzz
                 harfbuzz-icu  hicolor-icon-theme  icu  libpng  libxss  libxtst
                 nss  opus  snappy  speech-dispatcher  ttf-font  xdg-utils
Optional Deps  : kdebase-kdialog: needed for file dialogs in KDE
                 ttf-liberation: fix fonts for some PDFs
Required By    : None
Optional For   : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces       : None
Installed Size : 175.57 MiB
Packager       : Unknown Packager
Build Date     : Wed 25 Feb 2015 04:09:52 PM AST
Install Date   : Wed 25 Feb 2015 04:11:41 PM AST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Validated By   : None

Name           : firefox
Version        : 36.0-1
Description    : Standalone web browser from mozilla.org
Architecture   : x86_64
URL            : https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/
Licenses       : MPL  GPL  LGPL
Groups         : None
Provides       : None
Depends On     : gtk2  mozilla-common  libxt  startup-notification  mime-types
                 dbus-glib  alsa-lib  desktop-file-utils  hicolor-icon-theme
                 libvpx  icu  libevent  nss  hunspell  sqlite
Optional Deps  : networkmanager: Location detection via available WiFi networks
                 [installed]
                 gst-plugins-good: h.264 video [installed]
                 gst-libav: h.264 video [installed]
Required By    : firefox-noscript
Optional For   : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces       : None
Installed Size :  89.16 MiB
Packager       : Evangelos Foutras 
Build Date     : Tue 24 Feb 2015 06:45:41 PM AST
Install Date   : Tue 24 Feb 2015 08:32:04 PM AST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Validated By   : Signature

So Chrome is twice the size of Firefox.

 

[Ketchup]

Never had a problem with YouTube in Firefox.

 

[Elixer]

FF 36 seems to flash for lack of a better term when you click on the back button most of the time.
35 didn't do this, or, at least it didn't do it this much.

 

[ninaholic37]

Chrome's installer may be small but AFAIK the actually installation is quite big, maybe around a couple 100 MB.

So Chrome is twice the size of Firefox.

That's a good point. Firefox does look lean compared to Chrome! Does Chrome really have twice the functionality to make up for it's size? I always thought the interface in Chrome seemed crude and sloppy with less features overall, in my limited times using it.

It looks like libxul.so takes up most of the space in Firefox (61M). I wonder how hard it would be to extract the contents of that file and take out what you never use. Maybe that level of tweaking would require a re-compilation of the browser...

 

[MustISO]

FF 36 seems to flash for lack of a better term when you click on the back button most of the time.
35 didn't do this, or, at least it didn't do it this much.

I'm not seeing any flash going back to a previous site or page but I did notice that FF was using 25% of my CPU while I had 3 pages open and nothing happening on any of the pages. Closed and re-opened and it's fine but that's the first time I've seen that.

 

[Chiefcrowe]

I've been monitoring it here and i am seeing 1-10 percent, fluctuating. It could have just been a temp. glitch.

I'm not seeing any flash going back to a previous site or page but I did notice that FF was using 25% of my CPU while I had 3 pages open and nothing happening on any of the pages. Closed and re-opened and it's fine but that's the first time I've seen that.

 

[ronbo613]

I've got "Hello" but some of my extensions don't work with 36.0. Hoping it is a temporary thing and the extensions are updated soon.

 

[ninaholic37]

FF 36 seems to flash for lack of a better term when you click on the back button most of the time.
35 didn't do this, or, at least it didn't do it this much.

Is the flash white (blank page) or gray (background border color)? I've gotten both before, the first one around FF12 when I was using an Atom and high-contrast mode (so the white flash was more noticeable), and the second one when I open the browser with an Ad-Block extension enabled (takes longer to get to the blank page, whereas with it disabled the entire page refreshes at the same time).

Yep. I remember when FF was a ~4MB download, and was pitched as the non-bloated browser. But then, the Internet has come a long way since then But then, FF 17's win32 installer is 18MB, I'm not sure I can say that the Internet has come a long way to justify the installer's size increasing by more than double. GC's standalone installer is smaller than FF's by the looks of it.

I was especially surprised that it got a lot bigger from FF28 to FF29. I thought "Australis" was supposed to be a more simple/scaled-back version (by the looks of it).

 

[Spacehead]

Any ideas why FF 36 wants server permission on port 1900?
Never had FF ask for this before. This is on Windows XP.

 

[mikeymikec]

Any ideas why FF 36 wants server permission on port 1900?
Never had FF ask for this before. This is on Windows XP.

Isn't there some chat feature they've developed now (Firefox Hello)? I would put my money on it being that.

 

[postmortemIA]

Anybody using hello? my guess not. not only that I did not want it, last thing I wanted is new forced new icon for it. Same with forced switch to Yahoo search. Less tech savvy people keep asking me "why" they have to use Yahoo search now

FF has gone to sh!te ever since they started copying chrome and doing the fast releases approach. People actually wanted opposite: stable and secure browser with extensions that work.

Sadly seems that open source projects burn out as soon as they are on the top. Almost all start with crap features that user don't want, then the devs start fighting, then they start forking it.

Examples: Linux, gcc, GNOME, OpenOffice

 

[Chiefcrowe]

I am going to test it out soon but it's not really something I wanted necessarily, but I could see the appeal of just needing the browser to chat instead of installing another program. You can remove that icon easily, and the reason for yahoo search is the monetary deal they did with yahoo which made it the default.

Anybody using hello? my guess not. not only that I did not want it, last thing I wanted is new forced new icon for it. Same with forced switch to Yahoo search. Less tech savvy people keep asking me "why" they have to use Yahoo search now

FF has gone to sh!te ever since they started copying chrome and doing the fast releases approach. People actually wanted opposite: stable and secure browser with extensions that work.

Sadly seems that open source projects burn out as soon as they are on the top. Almost all start with crap features that user don't want, then the devs start fighting, then they start forking it.

Examples: Linux, gcc, GNOME, OpenOffice