My experience protesting.

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So yesterday I had the day off and the wife and I decided it was our turn to step up to the plate and do even a little something to help the cause besides talking about it, watching it on TV/online and changing our social media pictures to black. So we packed up our water and snacks and headed for the scheduled (peaceful) protest march in Milwaukee. I figured I would share my experience and feelings... if it can get even one more person out there, then I will be happier.

First off, I'm white. Middle aged. Balding. Out of shape. Generally stable middle class. Live in the suburbs. Grew up in a rural town. Literally didn't know a POC until highschool (there was a grand total of one in my class... coincidentally, he's now a police captain in Milwaukee). So my experience with this whole situation has changed over the years. From complete ignorance to being aware. In my formidable years, I was somewhat a "rebel" and a wanna be "punk" with lots of true "punk rock" friends. All the music was protest based and "fight the power" mentality. And while I still have many friends that live in that world, and while I still closely identify with that mentality, I know I'm just a suburbanite. I will never ever pretend to know what it's like. I simply can't. I have no way to begin to comprehend the full depth of this matter. Nor will I ever. I can not have empathy, as I have never experienced an ounce of what they are their predecessors have experienced and feel. I can have sympathy though, as I can see it and because I (ironically) can't even imagine it.

That being said, yhe protest organized at a park a few miles out of downtown and about 5 miles from the "final" destination. Everyone gathered and the leaders had their megaphones explaining what everyone was to expect. And more importantly what was expected of them - Throw NOTHING. Confront NOBODY. Stick to the route. Listen and be alert. Take care of yourself and those around you. Just the night prior (Tuesday) there were serious clashes with the police in the late evening. One that was arrested gave a speech. And all were instructed that if you were at the front of the line to expect anything. Granted this was at 3pm and quite honestly, my wife nor I expected to be out "late" with the protest, and that is when the proverbial shit tends to hit the fan. Interestingly too, they said that at 7pm, at the very spot we were standing, a White Nationalist group was planning a rally as well, and if you had your car parked near, fair warning you may not be able to get out after 7pm.

Anyways, the walk started at 3pm. This was my first foray into such a thing. the first thing I noticed, and continued to notice through the whole march was the organization. I don't think there was some "master game plan" drawn out on maps and in secret code, but the people there knew what to do and how do to it. The support vehicles clearing and blocking the streets ahead of us, and those bringing up the rear were impressive. Other cars "leap frogged" ahead of the pack blocking of cross streets and other pulling over to set up water/snack/first aid stations. It was impressive and touching and powerful to witness.

People were 100% courteous and conscientious. I saw ZERO litter. I saw ZERO confrontations. Everyone stayed off the sidewalks (as to not get in the way of pedestrians). Nearly every business along the route, the employees/owners were outside handing out water/food. Cheering the march on etc etc. People sitting on their front lawns with babies and kids waving and clapping with signs of their own. It was fantastic to see.

Those marching were young. Like very young (comparably to me and my wife). Average age had to be 24-25. I'm 46. We were CLEARLY the elders here. But they had all the experience. And it was great to see that. Certainly, it gives me some hope that the younger generation(s) are making progress on this topic and things will change over the years (and decades) to come. Sadly, then the logical part of my brain realizes that the hippies at Woodstock are now the Boomers of today. So we'll see how this round handles the responsibilities the world thrusts on them. I have blind hope though.

To get to downtown, we have to cross the Milwaukee river. Being the 6th day of protests, the city officials finally got "smart" and as the group approached the river, they raised the bridges preventing us from crossing. So we were diverted and every block we went further up, they raised the bridge. Asshole move for sure. But you can't argue it wasn't a simple and smart tactic. I wanted a few of those support cars to go way ahead of us and park on a bridge so they couldn't raise it. Missed opportunity I think.

I admit, I wasn't chanting and yelling like everyone - I mean I never did that at concerts or anything. Just not my style. But being in the middle of it is just heart warming and breaking at the same time. There was such passion. It was anger and frustration no question, but it was focused, pleading and determined and no question impassioned and true. The chants were simple. Powerful and pointful. With no hollow or extra words needed. Names. Last words. Most have heard them before.

In the end, my wife and I marched for about 3 hours. Huge props to my sister who came and picked us up so we didn't have to walk all the way back! She may have had the best line of the day too when she said "supporting protesters is protesting too". We never made it to downtown, but when I got home I started watching the streams and by that time the group we were with met up with 2 other groups and were smack at the heart of Milwaukee on the corner of Wisconsin and Water. Still 100% peaceful, respectful, on target and with purpose. Nothing seemed to change except the size was now 10 times from when we left it.

In the end, there appeared to be no major confrontations with the police last night. The White Nationalists never materialized (even though there was indication and "rumor" that they were planning on meeting up with the march). The blackhawk chopper overhead (!) never came into play.

I'm beyond happy we participated. I will admit that based on the age and the color of skin in the march, I felt sort of like the "tourist" being there. And that term and feeling is often thrown around. Even by typing up this whole thing, I feel like I'm feeding that stereotype. But I guess that's the point, right?... realistically, it shouldn't just be the fight of the POC to carry. Nor just the youth. It should be us middle-aged, white suburban folk there with them. We can't fully comprehend what we're even fighting for, but we know that we're fighting for and supporting those that deserve it. We should let them speak and feel, and we should be there to stand behind, beside and even in front of them if we need to.

TLDR: Go protest. Peacefully.

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Thump553

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I went to Marquette, lived on the east side thereafter then bought a home in Sherman Park area. Left in 1988-it's surprising how much stuff in your pictures looks familiar.

Did you start in Sherman Park? I used to walk that route fairly often on good days instead of taking the bus.
 

Homerboy

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I went to Marquette, lived on the east side thereafter then bought a home in Sherman Park area. Left in 1988-it's surprising how much stuff in your pictures looks familiar.

Did you start in Sherman Park? I used to walk that route fairly often on good days instead of taking the bus.

It started in Humboldt Park in Bay View and went down 1st Street then up National (that was the unexpected/forced detour)

Sherman Park has been the epicenter for a lot of these "problems". It's really a beautiful and great location with quite a large diversity of races and backgrounds. Those are still segregated even within that small community too. MU, as you know is right downtown. I drive through it daily. My nephew goes there and many of my coworkers went there for undergrad and/or graduate school. Great school. Great urban campus. I think everyone around here has lived on the East Side at some point. I was there for 6 years or so. Loved it. It's still "hip and trendy" and certainly liberal. All the REAL cool kids have now moved to Bay View (also lived there) which has really flourished in the past 15 years or so. Very multi cultural. Tons of locally owned stores and restaurants. It's really a great place.

Those pictures would be mainly of Bay View and the streets leading to Downtown from there. Past Allen Bradley clock tower etc.
 

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Thank you for your effort in helping trying to change our country for the better Homerboy!
 
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Good to see the masks. I was thinking today it would do me good to march too. I'm 30 years older than you, though, so covid exposure's more risky for me. I demonstrated/protested with the Free Speech Movement, I was a junior at Cal.

I saw a prominent very smart black man on TV last night explaining that when white people are out there protesting racism, the unfair burden on black Americans in having be in fear every time they are out in public, they are in reality doing it for themselves, and rightly so. It's because it degrades everybody when discrimination, unfair treatment and brutality is perpetrated on any group among us. We all deserve to live in a world where those things have no place. We protest these things because we want to live in a better world. May we do what we can, all we can, to make the changes that bring about that better world we deserve.
 
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Homerboy

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Well, it seems we're addicted.

The march ended up going just past our house last night. When we heard it was 30 or so blocks away we jumped into the car and met up with it. The "after hours" marches appear to be a little different. It was very slow moving. - went about 30 blocks in 3 hours. Lots more protection on some of the marchers. An AR-15, couple of holstered sidearms. I never felt worried or scared though. It was all still very civil, organized and focused.

There was a lot of stopping and "testaments" given by people along the way. Not trying to be judgmental, but some of those "testaments" probably could have been saved. But some were quite moving and well spoken and, for me at least, entirely served their purpose. Hell, even the prayer and blessing given by a pastor while we all encircled him in the busiest intersection in town was touching and welcome (and I am not religious).

As an added bonus, when we were about 10 blocks from home or so, I was able to jump back in the car, scuttle home, meet my daughter and we walked down our block to meet up with the protest were she jumped in for another 5 or so blocks. She was very excited to participate.

Edit: Also, because this was more or less spontaneous, I ended up just wearing slides and my feet were killing me. I didn't even have a damned belt on and my pants kept falling down. The worst part was I completely forgot a mask so i felt horrible being there without one. I tried my best to keep my distance from everyone when and where I could. It's amazing that probably 95%+ of the marchers I have seen all are wearing masks.

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Very cool Homer!
I have sat sidelined from this due to not so much my high risk, but that of my family who I care for. My nieces and nephews have been going every night in Seattle.
Wednesday night we got the urgent phone alert for the Seattle curfew, and then a couple of hours later another one cancelling it through the weekend. That was cool.
 

Homerboy

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Very cool Homer!
I have sat sidelined from this due to not so much my high risk, but that of my family who I care for. My nieces and nephews have been going every night in Seattle.
Wednesday night we got the urgent phone alert for the Seattle curfew, and then a couple of hours later another one cancelling it through the weekend. That was cool.

What's been cool to see is that the posts my wife and I have made have directly encouraged other friends in the same "status" (white, middle aged, suburban etc) to head out and join the marches as well. Several have messaged us saying that after seeing our posts on various social media, they realized they too could (and more importantly should) be out there. That it was "their place" and that they didn't need to be intimidated - physically or just feeling out of place - about joining in.

We've gotten great messages from our nieces and nephews as well (who have been out there) and even some of their friends and our kids friends as a nice positive reinforcement to our actions. Even comments on posts from people we don't know (hashtags work apparently). We're not looking for praise or gold stars, but the positive reactions from those that "belong" in the marches helps drive us a little. And hopefully my post here, and other places have helped others think about participating as well.

On that note, remember too, that you don't have to walk. drive your car there and stand beside it. Honk and raise your signs. Cheer on and support those marching. Offer water, food or garbage pickup. I can not tell you how awesome the feeling is to see people on the sidewalks participating in any fashion they can. As my wise sister said "Supporting protesters is protesting"
 
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There was a lot of stopping and "testaments" given by people along the way. Not trying to be judgmental, but some of those "testaments" probably could have been saved.

You are going to get people from all walks of life and the full range of intellect.
From the grand orator who collects PH'd as a hobby to the guy who likes turtles and thinks it was aliens from the new world order to the people who apparently came to the wrong protest.

Have you had a chance to compare your personal experience at these protests with the reporting and public perception (aka keyboard warriors and social media concern champions) of the protests.
How does it feel to be rioter and a looter?
Many Americans now consider you a rioter and a looter because you protested.
 

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You are going to get people from all walks of life and the full range of intellect.
From the grand orator who collects PH'd as a hobby to the guy who likes turtles and thinks it was aliens from the new world order to the people who apparently came to the wrong protest.

Have you had a chance to compare your personal experience at these protests with the reporting and public perception (aka keyboard warriors and social media concern champions) of the protests.
How does it feel to be rioter and a looter?
Many Americans now consider you a rioter and a looter because you protested.
also how does it feel to be despised by the Police....lol.......I commend you! In my younger days I took part in a few protests! I truly commend you for your activism!!
 

Homerboy

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You are going to get people from all walks of life and the full range of intellect.
From the grand orator who collects PH'd as a hobby to the guy who likes turtles and thinks it was aliens from the new world order to the people who apparently came to the wrong protest.

Have you had a chance to compare your personal experience at these protests with the reporting and public perception (aka keyboard warriors and social media concern champions) of the protests.
How does it feel to be rioter and a looter?
Many Americans now consider you a rioter and a looter because you protested.

Oh yeah, I wasn't so much "complaining" about the testimonies. There were just a few where you sort of raise an eyebrow and think "Uhh.... ok. Next!" This is not exclusive to these protest marches - it can, and does happen any time you have a live/open mic.

My wife was actually tagged and "reported" as Antifa last night on Twitter (where she is most active). She was debunking a local lady who was posting about the protest and that there were rioters etc. in the group. That we were causing damage etc. The lady tagged my wife and a few others and "reported" them to the FBI and local police via tags and such. Obviously, nothing has become of it.

Honestly, I've reduced A LOT of my online social media pools to echo chambers. Between COVID and now these protests, I've culled the herd of acquaintances and only kept those people that I truly consider friends and are of like mind and substance. So reaction has been nothing but positive and reinforcing for me. I think what those people are now seeing is that the protests are generally peaceful and safe. That being afraid and staying away isn't necessary. Which really wasn't my goal of posting, but now I realize is a great and more than welcome side affect.

It feels great to be a scofflaw! I just made the comment today that in the 6+ hours we've marched thus far I have not seen A) one incident of any nature B) literally ZERO police officers. Honest to God, not one officer or even patrol car. Last night I did get a little upset when I saw some photographers climb up the side of a building to get on the (flat roof) to take pictures of the crowd. To me that was breaking the rules of the protest organizers - you're now on private property and crossing a line. There were lots of people walking down the sidewalks last night too which, to my understanding, is frowned upon as well. A few of the support cars drive a little to fast and carefree for my liking too, but to some extent, I think that's just my "get off my lawn!' blood coming to the surface.

Edit: Oh, there was some crowd started (not leader started) "Fuck Trump" chants last night too. While I agree, I just thought it was not on point. Trump isn't helping things, but he's not the cause nor the cure. He's pretty much irrelevant in the 400 years of systemic problems. That and while I don't mind swearing at all, when you're trying to have a peaceful protest and win people over to march with you, walking past their houses and 100 people yelling "FUCK!" may turn some away.
 
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