My ethics professor is gonna hate me

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Deeko

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I got a C....I'm gonna have to talk to him about it because alot of the things he marked were bullsh!t (not elaborating in my intro sentence, claiming an entire page isn't relative to my thesis, when half of my thesis is about that...)
 

mercanucaribe

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You're a retard if you think that being a proponent of open source means being a proponent of software piracy. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? He gave you a C because your paper sucked.
 

Doboji

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You've got the perfect what I call the "Max-perfect-A" scenario... you have come forward arguing against what is one of your professors core values. You have the opportunitee to easily walk away with an A. Here's how... stand firm on your beliefs, and lure him into a conversation on the topid.... now once in the thick of the argument allow him to begin winning you over... slide your PoV gradually towards his... make him truly believe that he is showing you the light.... then end the conversation totally agreeing with him, and being wowed by what he has shown you. Now everything else you do for him, write from this perspective.... write a follow up email arguing his side. You will have become his "creation" and he will then have a vested interest in seeing you get an A.

School is not about winning your point of view... it's about getting an A.

-Max
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Most of AT probably would too. I'm writing my term paper for Computer Ethics on computer software copyrights, and why developers have the right to protect their software, and why they should be permitted to protect their source code. I just found out in class discussion on Thursday that my professor is a huge proponent of the open source movement, GNU/Stallman, etc. Baaasically he's gonna hate my paper and everything written in it.

Oh well. I ain't changin my story because he don't like it.

So, he's a big proponent of developers/programmers never making any money on their work, eh? Is he going to pay their bills?
 

Deeko

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Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
You're a retard if you think that being a proponent of open source means being a proponent of software piracy. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? He gave you a C because your paper sucked.

Did you read the article by Richard Stallman that much of my paper is based on? He's the founder of GNU and one of the creaters of Linux, which makes him somewhat of a spokesman for the open source movement.

I did research, you didn't, so keep your mouth shut until you educate yourself.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Deeko
Most of AT probably would too. I'm writing my term paper for Computer Ethics on computer software copyrights, and why developers have the right to protect their software, and why they should be permitted to protect their source code. I just found out in class discussion on Thursday that my professor is a huge proponent of the open source movement, GNU/Stallman, etc. Baaasically he's gonna hate my paper and everything written in it.

Oh well. I ain't changin my story because he don't like it.

So, he's a big proponent of developers/programmers never making any money on their work, eh? Is he going to pay their bills?

ha, I mentioned salary in my paper(cited the average salary for entry level & experienced programmers, and cited Stallman's claim that open source programmers should be fine with 35K) he said that open source programmers make just as much and I didn't do enough research.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: eigen
Thumbs up on having a pair. One time I wrote a paper defending Genocide.So I know what your thinking.

He doesn't hav ea pair, he's just too lazy to change anything.
 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: Doboji
You've got the perfect what I call the "Max-perfect-A" scenario... you have come forward arguing against what is one of your professors core values. You have the opportunitee to easily walk away with an A. Here's how... stand firm on your beliefs, and lure him into a conversation on the topid.... now once in the thick of the argument allow him to begin winning you over... slide your PoV gradually towards his... make him truly believe that he is showing you the light.... then end the conversation totally agreeing with him, and being wowed by what he has shown you. Now everything else you do for him, write from this perspective.... write a follow up email arguing his side. You will have become his "creation" and he will then have a vested interest in seeing you get an A.

School is not about winning your point of view... it's about getting an A.

-Max

lol... :)
 

SouthPaW1227

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I wouldn't re-write a paper, but I'd be nervous. I *ALLLLWAYS* slant my writings towards what my prof. likes. I mean who cares, it's not like my opinion honestly matters to him anyway.

My English prof. LOVED Hemmingway, and I HATE Hemmingway, but on my final essay I wrote an "okay" paper glorifying Hemmingway and of course got an A in the course. *puckers up*
 

mugs

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Open Source isn't about denying people their copyrights... that's why open source software comes with a license agreement.

I haven't read your paper, but I dont think it's necessarily in disagreement with your professor's views.
 

SP33Demon

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Just wait till he finds out you're a Dallas Cowboy fanboy in Philly. I dare you to wear your Dallas gear when you hand this paper to him in person. ;)
 

UnderScore

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I am not the author

From <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.simpson.edu/~carlsonp/research.html">http://www.simpson.edu/~carlsonp/research.html</a>
"The Future of Ethics and Morality in Open Source"

Here is a paper that I just finished for 'The Social Context of Computing' class. I would have liked to have spent more time researching it and maybe interviewing people but because the class is short I was unable to do this. I am still interesting in working on the paper though. If you have any comments or suggestions please contact me!
http://www.simpson.edu/~carlsonp/research/Position_Paper.pdf





On the topic of $$$ from selling Linux/OPen Source- Can You Make Money Selling Linux? Try $3.5 Billion

The Emerging Economic Paradigm of Open Source
Open Source developers have, perhaps without conscious intent, created a new and surprisingly successful economic paradigm for the production of software. Examining that paradigm can answer a number of important questions.
It's not immediately obvious how Open Source[1] works economically. Probably the worst consequence of this lack of understanding is that many people don't understand how Open Source could be economically sustainable, and some may even feel that its potential negative effect upon the proprietary software industry is an overall economic detriment. Fortunately, if you look more deeply into the economic function of software in general, it's easy to establish that Open Source is both sustainable and of tremendous benefit to the overall economy.

Open Source can be explained entirely within the context of conventional open-market economics. Indeed, it turns out that it has much stronger ties to the phenomenon of capitalism than you may have appreciated.


IMO, you received a C because your paper is all over the place. You should argue the merits of closed source. If you believe closed source is so great then convince me. You could provide plently of factual evidence as such as "AN OPEN LETTER TO HOBBYISTS By William Henry Gates III", which argued for the creation of a closed source software industry. Instead you provide ancedotal pieces like: " The average user should not need to know if software they want is specific to Debian or KDE, or which of those systems their computer uses. While open source can benefit the small number of people who have a greater understanding of how software works, it causes more harm to the general population." Where is the source? Who is the subject matter expert that you are quoting? Are you an authority on Debian or KDE?

 

sygyzy

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Oct 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Deeko
Most of AT probably would too. I'm writing my term paper for Computer Ethics on computer software copyrights, and why developers have the right to protect their software, and why they should be permitted to protect their source code. I just found out in class discussion on Thursday that my professor is a huge proponent of the open source movement, GNU/Stallman, etc. Baaasically he's gonna hate my paper and everything written in it.

Oh well. I ain't changin my story because he don't like it.

You did say Professor right? As in an educator with a doctorate in a higher learning institution? Yeah ... those people usually have the ability to listen to different point of views and evaluate them, even ones with opposing views to their own. It's their job.
 

Mo0o

Lifer
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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: Deeko
Most of AT probably would too. I'm writing my term paper for Computer Ethics on computer software copyrights, and why developers have the right to protect their software, and why they should be permitted to protect their source code. I just found out in class discussion on Thursday that my professor is a huge proponent of the open source movement, GNU/Stallman, etc. Baaasically he's gonna hate my paper and everything written in it.

Oh well. I ain't changin my story because he don't like it.

You did say Professor right? As in an educator with a doctorate in a higher learning institution? Yeah ... those people usually have the ability to listen to different point of views and evaluate them, even ones with opposing views to their own. It's their job.

You'd be surprised how close minded some profs can be.