Backstory:
I sell refurbished iPhones through my website and through eBay (yeah, eBay sucks but it's all about the exposure.)
Back in September I sold 4 refurbished iPhone 4 models white in color to a guy in Florida for $1600. He gets them in, inquires about purchasing more of them, and all seems hunky-dorey. The next day out of the blue, he messages me to tell me that all the iPhones I sent him were fake:
"NONE of the serial numbers matches with the phones sent. I took the phones to APPLE SERVICE CENTER and they told me that all these phones are FAKE. The reasons they gave me is as under:
1. The top and bottom plates are not original as the original plates are screwed whereas the plates on these phones are GLUED.
2. The parts fitted inside are ALL FAKE and NOT OF APPLE.
3. On my request to replace them and am ready to pay the replacement charges for which they refused because they do not replace fake phones anD suggested me to return the phones TO THE SELLER.
Since I do not trust you hence the question of returning theM without getting the money back FIRST, the question of my returning the phones does not arise. If you want your phones back then refund the money immediately otherwise I will not only report the matter to Ebay and Paypal but to the local police as to sell fake items ON LINE is a criminal offense. This fraud is known as MAIL FRAUD.
It is better for you to refund the money immediately and send a prepaid return label to get the phones back. Rest is your wish. I will wait for another half hour to see your action and if I do not receive then I will proceed further."
He then proceeded to open up a case on eBay... and sent me back a package (Here's the tracking # 1ZY5F4020399392741)
Of course when the package arrived, it was a phone book. A phone book from Jacksonville FL. Since he sent the package via UPS and not USPS I can't get him in trouble. (Youtube video time, as I recorded myself opening it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0b1AkoqbYg
So after providing all the information to eBay regarding this guy they side in favor with me.
Fast forward to october... this jerk decides to file a chargeback, to which PayPal obviously doesn't do shit. They tell me they can only fax information for the chargeback so clearly the bank that filed the chargeback didn't see the evidence of him sending me a phonebook.
So he has the 4 iPhones I sent him and the money... now I'm out over $2800. PayPal won't do anything, eBay won't do anything. The police won't do anything. I can't get the back information from PayPal without a subpoena and lawyers around the area here are clueless as to how they'd be able to help me.
I guess that's going to be a fun loss to use as a tax write-off
In case anyone wants to know of someone not to deal with, don't deal with:
Chandar Agarwal
9838 Old Baymeadows Rd # 243
Jacksonville FL 32256-8101
Email Address: selsan@live.com
Phone # 904-631-3288
If I lived down in Florida I'd at least swing by his shop by I don't... Jacksonville Fl police (or sheriff's) won't do anything either. The one sheriff I talked to said if it was him he'd be kicking the guy's ass but obviously it'd be too hard for me since I live so far away (mind you our conversation was being recorded... haha)
He also runs a storefront:
http://www.sahilsjax.com/
Anyone in Jacksonville want to see what this guy is up to?
Necro bumping
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Anandtech Forum Director
I sell refurbished iPhones through my website and through eBay (yeah, eBay sucks but it's all about the exposure.)
Back in September I sold 4 refurbished iPhone 4 models white in color to a guy in Florida for $1600. He gets them in, inquires about purchasing more of them, and all seems hunky-dorey. The next day out of the blue, he messages me to tell me that all the iPhones I sent him were fake:
"NONE of the serial numbers matches with the phones sent. I took the phones to APPLE SERVICE CENTER and they told me that all these phones are FAKE. The reasons they gave me is as under:
1. The top and bottom plates are not original as the original plates are screwed whereas the plates on these phones are GLUED.
2. The parts fitted inside are ALL FAKE and NOT OF APPLE.
3. On my request to replace them and am ready to pay the replacement charges for which they refused because they do not replace fake phones anD suggested me to return the phones TO THE SELLER.
Since I do not trust you hence the question of returning theM without getting the money back FIRST, the question of my returning the phones does not arise. If you want your phones back then refund the money immediately otherwise I will not only report the matter to Ebay and Paypal but to the local police as to sell fake items ON LINE is a criminal offense. This fraud is known as MAIL FRAUD.
It is better for you to refund the money immediately and send a prepaid return label to get the phones back. Rest is your wish. I will wait for another half hour to see your action and if I do not receive then I will proceed further."
He then proceeded to open up a case on eBay... and sent me back a package (Here's the tracking # 1ZY5F4020399392741)
Of course when the package arrived, it was a phone book. A phone book from Jacksonville FL. Since he sent the package via UPS and not USPS I can't get him in trouble. (Youtube video time, as I recorded myself opening it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0b1AkoqbYg
So after providing all the information to eBay regarding this guy they side in favor with me.
Fast forward to october... this jerk decides to file a chargeback, to which PayPal obviously doesn't do shit. They tell me they can only fax information for the chargeback so clearly the bank that filed the chargeback didn't see the evidence of him sending me a phonebook.
So he has the 4 iPhones I sent him and the money... now I'm out over $2800. PayPal won't do anything, eBay won't do anything. The police won't do anything. I can't get the back information from PayPal without a subpoena and lawyers around the area here are clueless as to how they'd be able to help me.
I guess that's going to be a fun loss to use as a tax write-off
In case anyone wants to know of someone not to deal with, don't deal with:
Chandar Agarwal
9838 Old Baymeadows Rd # 243
Jacksonville FL 32256-8101
Email Address: selsan@live.com
Phone # 904-631-3288
If I lived down in Florida I'd at least swing by his shop by I don't... Jacksonville Fl police (or sheriff's) won't do anything either. The one sheriff I talked to said if it was him he'd be kicking the guy's ass but obviously it'd be too hard for me since I live so far away (mind you our conversation was being recorded... haha)
He also runs a storefront:
http://www.sahilsjax.com/
Anyone in Jacksonville want to see what this guy is up to?
Necro bumping
esquared
Anandtech Forum Director
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