My E90 got crunched!

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On Saturday night here in Minneapolis, I was home watching the Badgers-Spartans game. It had snowed that afternoon and roads were slick, so I was perfectly content to just watch at home. During the fourth quarter, at about 10:45, I got a knock on the door: one of my neighbors and his friend told me someone had just hit and run my 2006 330i. They got the license plate number and a description, so I called 911.

I went outside to look at my car, and the car that had struck it (a Nissan Pathfinder) pulled up, just a couple of minutes after driving away. The driver, a woman about 35 years old) claimed she hadn't realized she hit my car and that she had only driven back because she saw these guys chasing after her (I think it's likelier she had a crisis of conscience and/or was afraid of getting arrested for hit and run).

The other driver seemed appropriately upset and sorry about hitting my car, and asked that I call the police back and say there was no hit and run. I told her, just come into my house and we can talk until the police arrive. She seemed sober and was pleasant. She said she was just turning around and slid backing out of a driveway across from my house, which seems believable to me.

In the house, I asked her to write a written statement confirming she was the one who struck my car, and got a photo of her drivers license. She was cooperative with both things. She said she was insured by Geico and everything would be fine.

The police came and I told them there was no hit and run, so they did not make a report. I reported it to my insurance Saturday night, and took these pics the following day. I also took a pic showing that I was parked right against the curb, lest there be some argument that I was somehow at fault for parking in front of my own house.

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Today I spoke to my insurer, USAA, and spoke to the driver again (she and I had played phone tag on Sunday). Of course, the world being what it is, she has no insurance (as you might expect, there is a whole story there). USAA was great as always but I will be on the hook for my deductible ($500). The driver claims she will pay me back on a monthly basis - that would be nice but I'm not holding my breath.

Anyone have any predictions on what the repair will cost? Based on nothing but a wild-ass guess I am thinking $3-5K. There is significant deformation of the rear corner of the car - it's hard to see in those pics because the car is so dark and it was a gloomy day when I took the pics.

Ah well . . . it's only money, and not a ton of it, but it is annoying getting tagged, particularly by the uninsured.
 
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satyajitmenon

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Noooooooooo :(

You'll need to get the snow off on the C pillar to see just how bad the damage is. From the looks of it, you may be looking at rear bumper, rear quarter panel, trunk lid. Can't say about rear windshield. Hopefully there's no frame damage or rear door damage.

*Obligatory pics of woman*

Also, buy your neighbors a case of beer. Mighty nice of them to be good citizens.
 
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Noooooooooo :(

You'll need to get the snow off on the C pillar to see just how bad the damage is. From the looks of it, you may be looking at rear bumper, rear quarter panel, trunk lid. Can't say about rear windshield. Hopefully there's no frame damage or rear door damage.

*Obligatory pics of woman*

Also, buy your neighbors a case of beer. Mighty nice of them to be good citizens.

The damage doesn't go as far forward as the C pillar. Will definitely need a bumper and quarter panel. The trunklid seems repairable. What I wonder is how they will deal with the fact that the rounded, cap-shaped portion of the body, alongside the trunk, is so smashed. It's not clear to me how that could possibly be fixed or easily replaced (not that I know the first thing about auto body repair).

I agree the case of beer is a must . . .

EDIT: The woman is not notable one way or the other. I was just glad she was nice and cooperative, even if she isn't insured!
 
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Not insured.. Wow.. You were a lot nicer than I would've been. Hitting the car = accident. No insurance = not an accident.

Plus who knows how many things/people she's hit.



Good luck with getting it fixed, and huge +1 on giving the neighbors a case of beer.



.....having the sides of the trunk crunched in like that on a unibody vehicle is not good :\ I'd guess $5k very minimum.. Keep us posted!
 

kevman

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5-7 grand depending on how bad the internal damage is. Looks like the wheel and suspension is not affected by the hit so you got a lucky break there. good luck. at least the $@&! came back.
 

foghorn67

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Welcome to the ATG crunch club :/
Hopefully your E90 will be back on the road with nary a hint of what happened.
 

satyajitmenon

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What's gonna suck even worse is the hit on the resale value. You might get lucky and if the repairs are near perfect, then the next buyer won't care as much.
 

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Today I spoke to my insurer, USAA, and spoke to the driver again (she and I had played phone tag on Sunday). Of course, the world being what it is, she has no insurance (as you might expect, there is a whole story there). USAA was great as always but I will be on the hook for my deductible ($500). The driver claims she will pay me back on a monthly basis - that would be nice but I'm not holding my breath.

Anyone have any predictions on what the repair will cost? Based on nothing but a wild-ass guess I am thinking $3-5K. There is significant deformation of the rear corner of the car - it's hard to see in those pics because the car is so dark and it was a gloomy day when I took the pics.

Ah well . . . it's only money, and not a ton of it, but it is annoying getting tagged, particularly by the uninsured.

Out in CA where I live there are a ton of uninsured drivers. Which is why we have waiver of collision deductible... I'm surprised you do not have it... its like a few bucks a year. Gives you your deducible back one you find out the other party that hit you had not insurance. At least your keeping a good attitude about it op.
 

JulesMaximus

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Out in CA where I live there are a ton of uninsured drivers. Which is why we have waiver of collision deductible... I'm surprised you do not have it... its like a few bucks a year. Gives you your deducible back one you find out the other party that hit you had not insurance. At least your keeping a good attitude about it op.

Yep, I was hit by uninsured motorist once and USAA waived my deductible.
 
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Out in CA where I live there are a ton of uninsured drivers. Which is why we have waiver of collision deductible... I'm surprised you do not have it... its like a few bucks a year. Gives you your deducible back one you find out the other party that hit you had not insurance. At least your keeping a good attitude about it op.

Interesting. I don't think they offer that here - based on this experience I would probably buy it if they did. In terms of my attitude, I was so happy about the Badgers game that I couldn't be that upset. In a funny way, experiences like this just remind me that I'm lucky that despite not being wealthy, I am wealthy enough that a $500 expense like this is nothing to worry about, plus I am really grateful that my neighbor was so proactive and that this dopey woman came back. The whole thing is definitely annoying, though.
 

halik

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Yikes, trying to hit and run -> I could've guessed that she has no insurance and will not pay you back. Your best bet is play up the Esq. card and make it patently clear you will pursue the $500 and scare her into paying.

You're looking at like 6-8K of damage easily - new quarter panel welded on, support, bumper cover, trunk lid and all the paint + depreciated value. You're not gonna end up on top after all is done.
 
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JackBurton

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If you don't have insurance and you can't pay for the damage you did to someone's car, your car should be smashed. No more driving for you.

I would be nowhere close to as calm as you are. I was involved in a hit and run and got the guy's license plate number. I also had uninsured motorist. When I called State Farm they told me I could not file under uninsured motorist because they have to prove the other driver didn't have insurance. I then responded, "what part of hit and run did you not understand?" She just said, I understand, but that is our policy. :mad: So I had to file under my collision where I had to pay the $500 deductible. :mad:

And BTW, "hit and run" is treated just like damage to property if there are no injuries involved. It would be the same as if someone opened a car door in a parking lot and hit your door. At least that's how it is in Texas.
 
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If you don't have insurance and you can't pay for the damage you did to someone's car, your car should be smashed. No more driving for you.

I would be nowhere close to as calm as you are. I was involved in a hit and run and got the guy's license plate number. I also had uninsured motorist. When I called State Farm they told me I could not file under uninsured motorist because they have to prove the other driver didn't have insurance. I then responded, "what part of hit and run did you not understand?" She just said, I understand, but that is our policy. :mad: So I had to file under my collision where I had to pay the $500 deductible. :mad:

And BTW, "hit and run" is treated just like damage to property if there are no injuries involved. It would be the same as if someone opened a car door in a parking lot and hit your door. At least that's how it is in Texas.

I'm a lawyer and have done a fair amount of personal injury defense for our local transit authority, as well as pursuing subrogation for property damage. I know that body of law fairly well. Accordingly, I was mostly concerned with being able to prove that I was not at fault, so my insurance premiums wouldn't go up. (If all I'd had was a smashed car, my insurer would likely have held it against me if I couldn't prove I didn't cause it - I wouldn't really expect them to just take my word for it because there would have been no proof of another involved driver.) Once the driver came back and admitted her fault, I was basically out of the woods as far as I was concerned. I am not thrilled about it but the loss of resale is not a huge issue for me (I'm more of a trade-in guy than a private-party sale guy) and couldn't be cured no matter what anyway. The $500 is, well, $500. It's not that I don't care about $500 - I just don't care that much, and I'm not one to get that rattled about problems that are strictly financial in nature.

It's weird to know that the car is probably so significantly damaged in terms of cost - it's probably worth $20K at most, and this repair will probably be a quarter of that - yet it drives totally fine. It reminds me of a friend who is very fit and felt fine, but learned he needed open-heart surgery due to a malformed valve.
 

punjabiplaya

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sucks man, even though you got proof it's not your fault, wouldn't your premium go up anyways? or is USAA not a bag of dicks like every other insurance company?

anyways, you bang this 35 yr old? pics?
 
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sucks man, even though you got proof it's not your fault, wouldn't your premium go up anyways? or is USAA not a bag of dicks like every other insurance company?

anyways, you bang this 35 yr old? pics?

No, they won't. I have had this discussion with them before since I've had cars vandalized and stolen. My premiums go up only if I file a collision claim in which I am found at fault. Since this goofy woman admitted fault, I pay the deductible and eat the loss in resale, but I don't pay more premiums.

This woman is not someone I would want to hook up with. I don't have any more to say on that topic.
 

RavenSEAL

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Poor precious :(

I hope they day I can afford my dream car (a BMW), nothing like that will happen to it :(
 

Imdmn04

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My E90 with similar damage cost about $6500 (for the Insurance) to fix.

Also ask for diminished returns, I had a hard time selling my E90 due to it showing up as unibody damage on Carfax. I had to reduce my price by 2K-3K in order to sell it.
 

IcePickFreak

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I'd say $6k-$8k is a pretty good estimate. It looks like the trunk pan is going to need to be fixed/replaced too so probably on the higher end.
 

ViviTheMage

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I do, but my M3 winters in it. It's at the bottom of a hill and kind of inconvenient anyway. I have always parked my daily driver on the street for that reason.

I am curious, what area of MPLS?

Nice of the neighbors to get the plate, as much good as it did.

Looks like a lot of damage actually, have you got a quote yet?
 

slag

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Interesting. I don't think they offer that here - based on this experience I would probably buy it if they did. In terms of my attitude, I was so happy about the Badgers game that I couldn't be that upset. In a funny way, experiences like this just remind me that I'm lucky that despite not being wealthy, I am wealthy enough that a $500 expense like this is nothing to worry about, plus I am really grateful that my neighbor was so proactive and that this dopey woman came back. The whole thing is definitely annoying, though.

/firstworldproblems

:)
 

KIAman

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I just came in to say I've been a USAA customer forever and they are a top notch insurance provider, as well as banker, as well as investments. The last claim I had to make was over 10 years ago when I had my car stero system stolen. It was around $1000 worth of equipment.

It was my first claim and USAA walked me through everything. After about 30 minutes on the phone, it was determined that my (old) equipment couldn't be repurchased (discuontinued) so they pretty much gave me a $1000 shopping spree on car stereo and they would pay for the installer to put it all in.

Long story short, the installer came the following day with all the brand new stereo equipment to my home, took about 2 hours to install a new HU, 2 new AMPS (one for the speakers, mono for the subs) and 2x12 inch subwoofers (the box was not stolen, just the subwoofers, LOL).

During the install time, a glass repairman came out and replaced my passanger side window. I signed 2 forms, one for the stereo installer and one for the glass repair. I got a follow up call from USAA and I confirmed everything was done. And that was that. No increase in insurance, no out of pocket fees.