My DVD reads too slow....:-( any ideas?

MazdaMP

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My DVD reads too slow....:-( any ideas?

Hi, I have a Pioneer A-05 (packaged as a Cendyne drive) and whenever I try to read a DVD using DVD Decrypter, it only copies at 2.0 or 2.1 speed - any ideas as to how to fix this?

80GB 8MB HD / P4 2.4ghz / 256 MB PC1066 RAM


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thanks!
 

charlie21

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Check to make sure you have your drive set to use UDMA Mode 2. It's probably set on PIO mode. I had the same problem with my DVD drive. I can't remember how to change it, but search this forum for it, that's where I found out how.
 

MazdaMP

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Originally posted by: charlie21
Check to make sure you have your drive set to use UDMA Mode 2. It's probably set on PIO mode. I had the same problem with my DVD drive. I can't remember how to change it, but search this forum for it, that's where I found out how.

thanks for the reply,
butall 4 devices (2 HDs, my CDRW and my DVDRW are in "Ultra DMA, Mode 2"

any other ideas?
 

Perplx

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Its your dvd rom its locked at that speed. I have a toshiba 1502 and I have the same problem. Its locked at that speed to prevent piracy I think. Also my DAE is locked at 16x.
Its locked at 2x ONLY for encryted movie DVD's, unencrypted dvd's copy at 10x and so do data dvd's. So your only option is to get a new drive or hope there is a firmware hack.
 

charlie21

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Originally posted by: Perplx
Its your dvd rom its locked at that speed. I have a toshiba 1502 and I have the same problem. Its locked at that speed to prevent piracy I think. Also my DAE is locked at 16x.
Its locked at 2x ONLY for encryted movie DVD's, unencrypted dvd's copy at 10x and so do data dvd's. So your only option is to get a new drive or hope there is a firmware hack.

Here's the deal. I have the Pioneer DVR-105 (A-05) and a Toshiba SD-R1202. I also have an encrypted movie DVD (that I own) and an unencrypted backup copy of it. The Pioneer drive reads both of the discs at 2x max, even though it is rated for a 12X max DVD-ROM, 6x max DVD-R. On my Toshiba, the original runs at up to 12x, and the DVD-R copy runs at up to 6x.

I'll try a data DVD on the Pioneer when I get back from work tonight, but I get the feeling it's going to be locked at 2x as well. UDMA mode 2 is on. Anybody got any ideas as to why?
 

MazdaMP

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Originally posted by: charlie21
Originally posted by: Perplx
Its your dvd rom its locked at that speed. I have a toshiba 1502 and I have the same problem. Its locked at that speed to prevent piracy I think. Also my DAE is locked at 16x.
Its locked at 2x ONLY for encryted movie DVD's, unencrypted dvd's copy at 10x and so do data dvd's. So your only option is to get a new drive or hope there is a firmware hack.

Here's the deal. I have the Pioneer DVR-105 (A-05) and a Toshiba SD-R1202. I also have an encrypted movie DVD (that I own) and an unencrypted backup copy of it. The Pioneer drive reads both of the discs at 2x max, even though it is rated for a 12X max DVD-ROM, 6x max DVD-R. On my Toshiba, the original runs at up to 12x, and the DVD-R copy runs at up to 6x.

I'll try a data DVD on the Pioneer when I get back from work tonight, but I get the feeling it's going to be locked at 2x as well. UDMA mode 2 is on. Anybody got any ideas as to why?

seems like we have the exact same problem :(
 

thomsbrain

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i'll bet it reads data DVD's just fine. this was just a thing they did to some of the older DVD drives -- they'd read movies no faster than 2X. There were lots of discussions back in the day about which drives to avoid. Sounds like you got one of the ones to avoid. ;)
 

charlie21

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
i'll bet it reads data DVD's just fine. this was just a thing they did to some of the older DVD drives -- they'd read movies no faster than 2X. There were lots of discussions back in the day about which drives to avoid. Sounds like you got one of the ones to avoid. ;)

You're right. I tested one of my PS2 DVD discs, and it topped out just north of 8x, which is what the drive was rated for dual layer DVD-ROMs. Funny how Nero reported it as a DVD-Video disc.

So Pioneer limits its users to 2x transfer rates with DVD movies even though the drive is capable of much more than that? This isn't a big deal for me, I have another drive for ripping. But if I had just bought a $300 Pioneer drive and it wouldn't rip movies up to its rated transfer speeds, I'd be a little irritated right now.
 

MazdaMP

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Originally posted by: charlie21
Originally posted by: thomsbrain


So Pioneer limits its users to 2x transfer rates with DVD movies even though the drive is capable of much more than that? This isn't a big deal for me, I have another drive for ripping. But if I had just bought a $300 Pioneer drive and it wouldn't rip movies up to its rated transfer speeds, I'd be a little irritated right now.

talk about my situation :(


any firmware hack to fix this?
 

charlie21

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No, I checked around and the only firmware hack that I could find was one to make your drive region free. But the whole point here is that we shouldn't have to rely on firmware hacks to be able to use our drives up to their full capabilities. Since DVD data discs read at their full specified transfer rate, that means that Pioneer actually went out of their way to limit data transfer speeds for just movie discs. My $80 Toshiba rips laps around my $275 Pioneer drive. That's not right.
 

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