My dreams of a 3D Ultima Online have been dashed

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Nebor
Unfortunately, no matter what they do to the engine to improve things, I don't want to rejoin a UO where people have been playing for the last 9 years, and all the horrible changes made over the years still exist. IE: Power hour, trammel, ninjas, etc. I'll just have to wait for Darkfall to come along and destroy my social life.

Well, I thought a full 3D conversion would give them the perfect excuse to strip the game of a lot of the nonsense they've added the past few years.....i.e. 'we can't balance ninjas with the new engine'.

I hold far more hope for UO2 anyway. But people don't remember all the non-combat stuff that was in UO and I'm worried that may be the focus. I used to mine ore for fun. I'd go hunt in the jungle cause there were more birds than in the forest and I needed their feathers for arrows. I once harvested some wheat growing near Britain into a bundle. Then walked to Yew and ground the wheat into flour. Filled a pitcher with water. Walked back to Britain to the bakery and baked a loaf of bread in the furnace.

Do you remember getting armor repaired in the early days? You had to GIVE it to a stranger at the blacksmith and let them fix it and return it and you've pay them their fee. The social dynamic in that game was unbelievable.

Mining or and using my pack mule to hold tons of it. I remember crafting my first set of ringmail and while I continued mining, looking mighty good in my new armour, a mage popped up and blasted me into the ground. Oh man was i pissed.

I killed him a few months later and took hundreds of reagents and other assorted goodies

Running through the woods chopping lumber to make some furniture I come across a corpse, unlooted. I take so much that i can't move so i have to drag his breastplate all the way to Minoc from near the closest dungeon - forget the name. Covetous?

Dynamically social, that's the ticket.

Gotta love it - murder, betrayal, theft, backstabbing, and grave robbing. WTF happened to the virtues part of Ultima?

 

[Malladine]

Virtue is relative

Adrenaline. Everytime i logged into UO I got an adrenaline rush. VERY few games provide that EVER, never mind every single time you play.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Do you remember getting armor repaired in the early days? You had to GIVE it to a stranger at the blacksmith and let them fix it and return it and you've pay them their fee. The social dynamic in that game was unbelievable.

I wasn't around when that was changed I don't think. Maybe I was.... they made it where it could be repaired in the trade window?

Yeah, I doubt we'll ever see anything like UO again. How long have they been working on UO2 now?

UO2 isn't being worked on. As far as anybody outside of EA knows. But I have no doubts it will be made. I've spent a lot of time thinking about what will bring about the renaissance of MMORPGs and the only conclusion is UO2.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
Gotta love it - murder, betrayal, theft, backstabbing, and grave robbing. WTF happened to the virtues part of Ultima?

That's the beauty of it. A lot of us played virtuously even though it put us at a slight disadvantage. We quickly gravitated towards each other and suddenly you had a dynamic culture within the game world. Also, in the early days, the reputation rewarded clean players with the title of Lord and the ability to become one of Lord Blackthorn's or Lord British's guards and you got a special shield and had to stay clean or the shield would blow up .

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Well, I thought a full 3D conversion would give them the perfect excuse to strip the game of a lot of the nonsense they've added the past few years.....i.e. 'we can't balance ninjas with the new engine'.

I hold far more hope for UO2 anyway. But people don't remember all the non-combat stuff that was in UO and I'm worried that may be the focus. I used to mine ore for fun. I'd go hunt in the jungle cause there were more birds than in the forest and I needed their feathers for arrows. I once harvested some wheat growing near Britain into a bundle. Then walked to Yew and ground the wheat into flour. Filled a pitcher with water. Walked back to Britain to the bakery and baked a loaf of bread in the furnace.

Do you remember getting armor repaired in the early days? You had to GIVE it to a stranger at the blacksmith and let them fix it and return it and you've pay them their fee. The social dynamic in that game was unbelievable.

Lumberjacking could of used some work though. I remember working Yew because I could get some decent lumber, but anywhere else you were walking from visible tree to visible tree seeing "there's no lumber here" or whatever the message was. But yea, no game has topped UO's trade skills and house building. The problem is to duplicate it in a 3D FPS is a huge amount of work. Eh, I'd love to see someone try.

Treasure hunting was possibly the best though. "DUDE LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF IN HERE" "Uhh.. every item you grab spawns a monster" "I just grabbed like 10 things"

 

[topslop1]

Originally posted by: Suture
Mythic's staff is mostly individual to each game.

I do miss UO, pre-year 2000. Was so much fun

You and me both. I put 5 years of my life into that game - from the public up to the new necromancers and to private shards that held the original game play, to god knows what. It's dead, but God PKING WAS AMAZING.

If anyone played on Catskills I was "sexy" - that was the main character. You're all talking about mining ore and being blacksmiths - let's face the reality of the situation - it was much more fun picking on those blacksmiths and E-bolting them to death while they ran away on foot.

And we all miss the adrenaline. So much was on the line all the time. I can remember being chased through levels and floors of dungeons by 5 - even 10 people in a gank squad and just getting around the corner and hiding. Woof, the beauty of it all.

I was just having a chat about this tonight though - how the newer games have safeguarded areas, no looting, and lots of other baby-fied things to get more players into it, but in reality they lost that fun.

God help me and my life if another MMORPG takes me in the same way that UO did. I want to cry now thanks. =] haha.