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My "Dedicated Movie Drive" gone....

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KingFatty said:
Not necessarily the same - A copy of a VHS recording is probably not an authorized copy, however, it can be immune from action because it can be considered a "fair use exception" to copyright. So even though you may not have been specifically authorized to make a VHS copy, that's OK because it's an exception to the rule that making a copy violates copyright.

Although a company could take your money as a purchase of rights to a movie on all possible media formats, it's likely the original purchase only authorized the single purchased copy. Whether fair use would extend protection to all subsequent embodiments of a movie you purchased is questionable, and I bet that will be argued before the courts and may win as I think it's very fair in today's world to allow someone fair use to maintain their backup copies as formats change/obsolete over time.

But should you get fair use to protect you when you convert a DVD you purchased into a new copy of a Bluray? That seems like a different thing altogether, so not sure if that would be protected as a fair use exception to copyright.
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afaik, a VHS recording is for time shifting purposes only. as in you should only have it for 24 hours or so. it doesn't mean you can permanently keep a copy. of course, that's what we all did back then.

fair use, again afaik, is more for satirical purposes no? as in showing a clip of a tv show/movie and commenting on it. schools have an out for this i think.
 
AnitaPeterson said:
I meant this: http://www.r-studio.com/ and this: http://www.krollontrack.com/resource-library/free-downloads/
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Oh....I'll test these...

AnitaPeterson said:
And did you try this: http://download.cnet.com/Recuva/3000-2242_4-10753287.html?tag=dropDownForm;productListing;pop
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...I downloaded the program from the official Piriform site....and as the screenshots posted earlier; it didn't work...

AnitaPeterson said:
While we're at it, why don't you give this list a look?
http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=data+recovery+software&platformSelect=Windows&tag=srch&searchtype=downloads&filterName=platform%3DWindows&filter=platform%3DWindows
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I was going to try this: http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/home-edition/#Title2, but saw in the features, it only supported up to 1TB...my HDD is 3TB!!

Elixer said:
I would still use http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
Very nice free program.
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Once I get another 3TB HDD(s)....



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Hmmm....:\ how long does it usually take to scan a HDD for data recovery purposes? or at least how long it *should* take?😕
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GetDataBack is the only free data recovery program I've had any success with, there always seems to be one issue or another with those "recovery" programs. When I've had disc fail like this the best way I have found to recover them is to use a live Linux disc, or something like Hirens, and access the disc through Linux, and copy the movies/programs/pictures/whatever one by one, or ten by ten or however to another drive. Just recently my LaCie backup drive did this exact same thing, the only way I was able to access it was with Linux through Hirens.
 
Zachboy said:
Um, thanks for the replies, but that doesn't quite answer the question I had in my last reply...
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The answer is a long time, especially if you have 3TB full. The more data on the drive, the longer it's going to take. It also depends on the program you're using, some I've used that are pretty quick, one took several hours.
 
xj0hnx said:
The answer is a long time, especially if you have 3TB full. The more data on the drive, the longer it's going to take. It also depends on the program you're using, some I've used that are pretty quick, one took several hours.
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So then, nearly eight days and still going is about right, yes? Apparently there's another two months left of time by the time if finally finishes scanning?

The program is R-Studio Demo version.....it's been almost eight days straight scanning....and I'm getting errors...is this normal?
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Ah yes, it seems the data recovery tools haven't really kept pace with the expanding of HDD capacities. I remember repairing a partition with spin-rite on a 80GB drive, which took 30+ hours. Same job would take like a month and a half on 3TB drive if they existed at the time.

Drives are marginally faster nowadays, but not that much faster.
 
Zachboy said:
So then, nearly eight days and still going is about right, yes? Apparently there's another two months left of time by the time if finally finishes scanning?

The program is R-Studio Demo version.....it's been almost eight days straight scanning....and I'm getting errors...is this normal?
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Haven't used that program, but it took close to 36 hours to do a 150GB a couple months ago using one of the recovery programs on the Hiren disc.
 
xj0hnx said:
GetDataBack is the only free data recovery program I've had any success with, there always seems to be one issue or another with those "recovery" programs. When I've had disc fail like this the best way I have found to recover them is to use a live Linux disc, or something like Hirens, and access the disc through Linux, and copy the movies/programs/pictures/whatever one by one, or ten by ten or however to another drive. Just recently my LaCie backup drive did this exact same thing, the only way I was able to access it was with Linux through Hirens.
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when did it become free? because im pretty sure it cost me like 80$. however it was money well spent as the software is amazing
 
So....if there happens to be a *blackout* during the scan; well, apparently it's going to take more than three months, I'll have to restart the program from the start, and start again, yes?

So when there's a power shortage for whatever reason(s), I'm screwed right?

Haven't used that program, but it took close to 36 hours to do a 150GB a couple months ago using one of the recovery programs on the Hiren disc.
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From my calculations (which may be wrong, but based on your results), it should take around 28 days for it to complete just the scanning of my 3TB HDD, yes?
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champion-7891 said:
http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/index.php/t-2189769.html

I had a similar problem and was able to recover it using testdisk - everything was recovered - basically as far as I remember, the partition table got deleted
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Erm.... If the partition table was deleted, then my Puppy would still be able to "see" the contents of the drive...now, in my case, the drive's "unallocated" somehow...could be a virus...you never know..but could just the HDD crap out on me...and decided to "unallocate" the data on the HDD itself. I've experienced a "deleted partition table", and I know my Puppy can still see and retrieve from a HDD that has it's partition table's deleted. This one's different....maybe because it could be a new HDD that my Puppy cannot not handle or it's definitely screwed up somehow...

I wouldn't mind testing out TestDisk....though I have no experience using the actual program...so I may bet lost using it, I might want to "clone" the original drive to make sure - I'd rather be safe than sorry...oh boy...28 days is a long time to wait for another method to take place if this fails....could be worse if I get a blackout....
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actually in my case the disk was also showing up as unallocated space (in Computer Management) - dnt remember the exact cause (it just happened)
 
I would try a program called File Scavenger. It has worked for me in the past and it has worked for other people I have suggested it to as well.

Here is the link:
http://www.quetek.com/prod02.htm

You can scan for free to see if it finds anything. But you have to pay to be able to recover the files.
 
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Zachboy said:
Yes, I did some cassettes and old movies I recorded with my old VHS recorder......I can remember the movies (Animated and non-animated) took up to 2.2 TB of the 3TB HDD....or somewhere around there...
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You should be able to compress old VHS quality video down to well under 300MB per hour without any quality loss. This means you can store 100 6-hour VCR tapes in under 200GB. If you're using 2 TB you must either have 5000 hours of video, or you are wasting an awful lot of bits.
 
Charlie98 said:
I'm building my HTPC drive right now, my largest is 1TB only. I plan on cloning the drives when I'm done with the basic fill as a backup. Yes, this means I'll probably have 2 or 3 drives just for backup alone, but I understand that is the price of admission, so to speak.

I don't plan on using any 'green' drives, from what I have been reading they are a disaster waiting to happen.

I would agree, drop it into another computer and see if it will pull up there, if not, and the data is worth it to you... go for data recovery.

Can you run CKDSK? I don't know if that is possible or if it would do any good, but at that point it may be worth a try.
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I hear that the new Red WD drives are much more reliable, but they're still cheaper than black usually.
 
champion-7891 said:
actually in my case the disk was also showing up as unallocated space (in Computer Management) - dnt remember the exact cause (it just happened)
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Hm, well in Linux, it should still be able to recover those files and folders even if windows shows as "unallocated space"

...hm, I guess you may be right....I can't remember either what happened last time to me....but I do know that my Puppy can recover files from a *screwed* up HDD.....but maybe not so much as far as the HDD in *real* screwed up mode....[sigh]....:hmm: hmmmm.....

sm625 said:
You should be able to compress old VHS quality video down to well under 300MB per hour without any quality loss. This means you can store 100 6-hour VCR tapes in under 200GB. If you're using 2 TB you must either have 5000 hours of video, or you are wasting an awful lot of bits.
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Not all of the 2TB of data space used up was off VHS cassettes....some were just backups of the original movies I had disc copies off, some were movies my friend(s) gave me and some were downloaded from the internet....and yes, the rest would be of VHS copies....
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Well, it would appear that R-Studio gave up....after I saw it eat up all 2GB of RAM......actually, it wasn't even on! The moment I came to checkup on it, it wasn't even running! ..and no one touched the computer except me......and so when the monitor flicked on, I saw all 2GB of RAM was used up!! I was like "Wow...didn't know such program used up that much of RAM!" and then it dropped down to around 200MB...right, looks like I will give the other one a crack...and see if *that*, gives up too...

If that doesn't work; I guess I'm going to give testdisk, or and *try* to follow what Rick said, a go.... 🙂
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