My Counterfeit Rolex is SWISS made!

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bozack

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Originally posted by: Marauder911

I'm not biting anything. You are wholly ignorant on this subject. I hope your political affiliation, in which you take such conspicuous pride, is better researched than your laughably incorrect watch intel.
Agreed. Phrased better than I probably could.

Rightwinger: If you really believe the sh|t that is spewing out of your mouth, go to forums.timezone.com and have them give you a reality check there. A complete movement overhaul costs 500 at most, but a normal service costs 300 (if my memory serves), and the service includes lubrication, repairing of worn parts, and a complete polishing of the watch. There is no "IF you can get rolex to see you one" when it comes to a band. They will happily replace a watch band for you, and you even save money if you let them keep the old worn one.

And to your losing several minutes a month argument, I see no point in arguing about anything. Losing 1-2 minutes a month is perfectly within specifications, but if he really wants to have his watch regulated to be more precise, it would a) be a walk in and out of a Rolex Service Center, and if watch is under warranty, it will be a free repair and done in about 15 minutes, b) send it to a RSC if he is not close to one, or c) bring it to a watchmaker, and have it regulated right in front of his eyes for probably under 100 dollars (you wont have the assurance that the watch is pressure tested though, unless you ask the watchmaker to do it).

I'm sorry, but wherever you are obtaining your information just sucks. A Rolex band, unless it has gold or platinum, will not cost 1000 dollars, more than likely will cost under 500-600 dollars. A Two Tone, or solid gold bracelet will cost a lot of money on any watch regardless. You will rarely see Rolex replace the whole movement on the watch, rather they will just replace parts that need replacing, and that costs ~300 dollars (might be 500, don't remember, but that would include the routine service) if my memory serves. On a very decrepit watch (we are talking stainless steel right now, no gold) where the crystal was cracked, crown tube was bent, and band needed replacing, I can't see it costing more for a service. Figure 500 for an oyster band (high end), 300 for service (which includes polishing to like new), and ~180 for crystal and crown tube, and its still under 1k, and those are high cost estimates.

Also, if you are paying 5k for a new GMT Master II, you got ripped a new one.

I have heard of submariners that were rusted to death from seals breaking, and them being fixed for cheap, compared to what they are worth.

Rolex has absolutely no problem selling you parts, their only stipulation is you do not get the old parts back from service. You get a slight discount on the cost of the new part, but because their is the possibility of creating a "fake real" Rolex movement using service parts, they will no longer sell parts to even authorized watch repair technicians.[/quote]

Ahh a Fellow Zoner!!, always great when I bump into another watch-aholic, however I haven't been on the zone for a little while as I am persuing interests in AV equipment for my house and also my fountain pen collecting.

You are correct with your service assessment with the exception that replacement parts are not included in the $300 basic service cost, generally the parts elevate the service cost to $500 and up...sometimes though one can get it serviced for just over $300 providing they care for their watch, unfortunately most Rolex owners are comming from quartz and don't know that maintenece/care is necessary.

glad to see there are some more of us around...reminds me of when Tom Pabst of Tom's Hardware was posting on the Zone....always cool to see a geek with taste :)
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: fyleow
Hahaha I was wondering when Bozack would chime in...

Ignorant people in thread = owned.

lol...thanks, while I know a little I never profess to know everything..however in this thread two very knowledgable people chimed in as well with Marauder and Don (even though Don and I constantly clash on political views he did a good job of giving it to rightwinger...damn right you make our party look bad).
 

sxr7171

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That's pretty nice, those really high quality replicas are pretty expensive. The non-working chronograph is a problem though.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
My bro thought this was some cheap fake that you get for $50 and gave it to me for my bday gift, little did he know the true quality and value of the watch. After doing a lot of research on fake rolexes all night, I found out my fake Rolex wasn't just a fake Rolex, but a very precise replica of the real thing, with all the parts made in Switzerland. It uses a high quality ETA-25 crystal, which is the same quality as the automatic time crystals that come in genuine Rolex's, if not higher quality, since ETA has been in the business three times longer than Rolex.
Real watch, $10,000
High quality swiss made replica that's 99% the same $1500
gift from bro - $0
:)

Only thing that makes it fake is that the chronograph doesn't work, but everything else is basically the same quality stuff. High quality stainless steel, laser etched engravings, encluding a laser etch of the rolex crown on the high qualty scratch proof sapphire display.
rolex1.jpg
rolex2.jpg
rolex3.jpg


The real thing, indistinguishable from the replica

I feel like I just won the lottery :D

Woah woah woah, slow down there a sec....man this was posted yesterday and I missed it?

First off, with regards to the piece you are showing in your images it is very easily recognizable as a fake and my best guess is that its actual value is close to $3-5 (that is production cost, street price if haggled would be about $15) So your brother got a little taken if he paid $50 but not that badly.

With regards to ETA they are a division of the Swatch Watch Co. and primarily make watch movements or the internals such as either the mechanical or quartz modules. While there were a few ETA watches, ETA has stopped production and now only supplies other companies with internal components. Brands which use ETA are Omega, IWC, Breitling, Movado, Tag Heuer, Baume and Mercier, Rado and many many others including some sub $200 watches.

From looking at those pictures I would guess that your watch has a quartz movement, something which you will no longer find in a Rolex oyster model. If yours does in fact have an ETA mechanical movement (which I highly doubt) then it would be a 2824 with a DD Chrono module on it which allows for the subdials to be in the tri compax layout, the only other ETA/Valijoux movement that is low budget is the 7750 and that has a 3,6,9 dial layout and it is highly unlikely that is in this watch.

With regards to "indistinguishable" from the real thing, I can say off hand that I can pick out quite a few things which are "incorrect" starting with the case finish, the bracelet endlinks and also the clasp design, the dial and more specifically the applied hour markers, the pushers for the chrono, and they crystal height come to my attention almost immediatley, given more time I am sure I can come up with a few more discrepencies.

Also the fact that your chrono pushers are non functional lead me to believe this is a lower cost chinese replica.

The Swiss replicas are very nice, and as you mentioned very expensive for a replica but they are also very discernable from the real deal.

Sorry


You talk like you know a lot about replicas.
Show me a replica for $3-5 that is the quality of mine.
$3-5 ones have plastic lens, crap steel, flat hands, no laser etching on the cyclops, incorrect fonts, no engravings, no rubber gasket sealant under the crown, transparent bottoms, chrome band, and lastly pins that connect the links.

You can point out a lot of things, but you haven't stated what's wrong with it, go AHEAD and prove how each one of those things you listed are an instant dead giveaway that this is a poor qualiy replica.

I've wore this for a week, played basketball, worked out, and the lens are IMMACULATE. Plastic lenses would have had many scratches already. I know, i've owned a few timex watches. My friend has a $10 fake rolex, and his cyclops are completely scratched up, so is his band. Mine is still IMMACULATE.

Secondly, if you look at the center links of the band very closely, which has a mirror finish, you will see there is a very slight brushed texture on it. This is a sign that it uses real high grade stainless steel, and not some chrome plated crap the $3-5 fake ones use.

My links are connected by SCREWS, not pins. Only the highest quality japanese made and all the swiss made watches use screws and not pins.

My watch has an authetic looking 3d holographic sticker with a flat smooth base. Another sign that it's a very well made replica. Most replicas have either clear bases, or fancy logo engravings, or a green knockoff sticker that looks nowhere real. Only swiss made replicas have the holographic sticker. And no it's not just a sticker, hologram stickers are very difficult to counterfeit.

Under the crown, there is a rubber sealant gasket, which is also only found in high quality replicas. In $200 and below replicas, there are only springs there, and no such sealing.

Mine is definately automatic, which I'm pretty sure it uses the ETA 25-jewel movement. The second hand ticks about 4 times a second, and is very stable. Quartz counterfeits usually have WORKING chronographs, because they are battery powered, or they have chronographs working as a calendar.
If you've ever done some shopping for replica watches, you'll find that MOST swiss made daytona replicas DO NOT have working chronographs. Lastly when I shake my watch, I can hear something spinning inside if I put the watch next to my ear. Quartz watches do not do this.

All this evidence leads me to believe this is SWISS made, since no other replicas besides swiss made ones offer these features. I DARE you to find me a $3-5 or even $200 one with all the things I've described.

So obviously, you can just pull crap outta your ass to try to discredit me, but I've done my research and will not be so easily convinced by a bunch of crap with no proof or even explanation behind it.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: virtualgames0
My bro thought this was some cheap fake that you get for $50 and gave it to me for my bday gift, little did he know the true quality and value of the watch. After doing a lot of research on fake rolexes all night, I found out my fake Rolex wasn't just a fake Rolex, but a very precise replica of the real thing, with all the parts made in Switzerland. It uses a high quality ETA-25 crystal, which is the same quality as the automatic time crystals that come in genuine Rolex's, if not higher quality, since ETA has been in the business three times longer than Rolex.
Real watch, $10,000
High quality swiss made replica that's 99% the same $1500
gift from bro - $0
:)

Only thing that makes it fake is that the chronograph doesn't work, but everything else is basically the same quality stuff. High quality stainless steel, laser etched engravings, encluding a laser etch of the rolex crown on the high qualty scratch proof sapphire display.
rolex1.jpg
rolex2.jpg
rolex3.jpg


The real thing, indistinguishable from the replica

I feel like I just won the lottery :D

Woah woah woah, slow down there a sec....man this was posted yesterday and I missed it?

First off, with regards to the piece you are showing in your images it is very easily recognizable as a fake and my best guess is that its actual value is close to $3-5 (that is production cost, street price if haggled would be about $15) So your brother got a little taken if he paid $50 but not that badly.

With regards to ETA they are a division of the Swatch Watch Co. and primarily make watch movements or the internals such as either the mechanical or quartz modules. While there were a few ETA watches, ETA has stopped production and now only supplies other companies with internal components. Brands which use ETA are Omega, IWC, Breitling, Movado, Tag Heuer, Baume and Mercier, Rado and many many others including some sub $200 watches.

From looking at those pictures I would guess that your watch has a quartz movement, something which you will no longer find in a Rolex oyster model. If yours does in fact have an ETA mechanical movement (which I highly doubt) then it would be a 2824 with a DD Chrono module on it which allows for the subdials to be in the tri compax layout, the only other ETA/Valijoux movement that is low budget is the 7750 and that has a 3,6,9 dial layout and it is highly unlikely that is in this watch.

With regards to "indistinguishable" from the real thing, I can say off hand that I can pick out quite a few things which are "incorrect" starting with the case finish, the bracelet endlinks and also the clasp design, the dial and more specifically the applied hour markers, the pushers for the chrono, and they crystal height come to my attention almost immediatley, given more time I am sure I can come up with a few more discrepencies.

Also the fact that your chrono pushers are non functional lead me to believe this is a lower cost chinese replica.

The Swiss replicas are very nice, and as you mentioned very expensive for a replica but they are also very discernable from the real deal.

Sorry


You talk like you know a lot about replicas.
Show me a replica for $3-5 that is the quality of mine.
$3-5 ones have plastic lens, crap steel, flat hands, no laser etching on the cyclops, incorrect fonts, no engravings, no rubber gasket sealant under the crown, transparent bottoms, chrome band.

You can point out a lot of things, but you haven't stated what's wrong with it..

I've wore this for a week, played basketball, worked out, and the lens are IMMACULATE. Plastic lenses would have had many scratches already. I know, i've owned a few timex watches. My friend has a $10 fake rolex, and his cyclops are completely scratched up, so is his band. Mine is still IMMACULATE.

Secondly, if you look at the center links of the band very closely, which has a mirror finish, you will see there is a very slight brushed texture on it. This is a sign that it uses real high grade stainless steel, and not some chrome plated crap the $3-5 fake ones use.

Mine is definately automatic, which I'm pretty sure it uses the ETA 25-jewel movement. The second hand ticks about 4 times a second, and is very stable. Quartz counterfeits usually have WORKING chronographs, because they are battery powered, or they have chronographs working as a calendar.
If you've ever done some shopping for replica watches, you'll find that MOST swiss made daytona replicas DO NOT have working chronographs.

So obviously, you can just pull crap outta your ass to try to discredit me, but I've done my research and will not be so easily convinced by a bunch of crap with no proof or even explanation behind it.

Dude who gives a crap.
it's a fake watch.
Why show off something that's fake. Having something like that makes you a Poser.

Get something real, within your range.
 

yhelothar

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I care, because I got it for free, and it's worth a lot.
I'm sure if you were under the same scenario as me, you would be very happy too.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I care, because I got it for free, and it's worth a lot.
I'm sure if you were under the same scenario as me, you would be very happy too.

I don't go bragging I got a couterfeit watch. Who gives a crap where it's made. IT'S FAKE.
Plus it's blatantly obvious when someone young wears one around unless he has rich rents even then it makes them look like a spoiled brat.
I probably wouldn't wear it around even if I received a fake one as a gift, because people will know it's fake. Why try and be someone or in someplace you're not. All it does is make you look foolish.
You're not gonna be impressing anyone with that bootleg watch.

I'm happy with the $140 dollar watch I purchased not too long ago.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
$199

Did you check out the $1500 and $850 models?

only the $1500 model has the holographic sticker, the rest just say sticker.
only the $1500 model has the back that can be removed with a genuine rolex tool
only the $850 and above say one piece screwdown crown, most screwdown crowns have the logo soldered on.
Also the $1500 model doesn't even state the chronograph is working, and is most likely not, given that it's such a big part of the watch.
Lastly, the 1hr marker on the $199 watch is crooked.

Mine is definately closer to the $1500 watch on that site than the rest.

I don't go bragging I got a couterfeit watch. Who gives a crap where it's made. IT'S FAKE.
Plus it's blatantly obvious when someone young wears one around unless he has rich rents even then it makes them look like a spoiled brat.
I probably wouldn't wear it around even if I received a fake one as a gift, because people will know it's fake. Why try and be someone or in someplace you're not. All it does is make you look foolish.
You're not gonna be impressing anyone with that bootleg watch.

I'm happy with the $140 dollar watch I purchased not too long ago.
You missed the whole point of this thread. I'm happy that I got a $800-$1500 watch for free. I don't care that it's fake, because as you said, I don't expect ANYONE to believe it's real EVEN IF IT WAS REAL, simply because I'm 18, have no job, and I drive a $1000 car.
In fact, I openly tell people that it is fake, and I don't care.

I'm just happy that what I thought was worth $50 is really worth $800 or more.
SO STFU and get off my back.
 

LuNoTiCK

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Even if it is worth $800 or more theres no way your going to sell it for $800. Your not a dealer. It's only really worth as much as people are willing to pay. It's a used Rolex, not the real deal.

A fake is a fake.
 

Nebor

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Fakes and counterfeits are a scourge on this earth. Be it fake Oakley sunglasses or fake Rolex watches. Cheap people want to look like they aren't cheap. It's a shame, really, and it's so disgusting. When I see someone with fake Oakleys, or a fake Rolex, I think, this is a fake person. They're a liar, through and through.

Hope you get mugged for the fake, at least then you'll be done with it.
 

yhelothar

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I never asked for this, and I don't wear it as a status symbol.. so why are you accusing me of being a fake person and a liar? The fact that I openly tell people that it's fake would make me honest :).
I think I got a nice watch that is well built and durable that rivals the quality of a $10,000 watch, that's what I'm happy about. I don't care how other people see me about it.
SO STFU and get off my back
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
You talk like you know a lot about replicas.
Show me a replica for $3-5 that is the quality of mine.
$3-5 ones have plastic lens, crap steel, flat hands, no laser etching on the cyclops, incorrect fonts, no engravings, no rubber gasket sealant under the crown, transparent bottoms, chrome band, and lastly pins that connect the links.

Actually I only know what I have learned in the past five years of being a watch enthusiast who specializes in Rolex and Omega's history, products and or company strategies along with a few other brands. With regards to replicas and cost I was referring average street value, and I have seen more than a few Rolex replicas which were very good for under $20 depending on how willing the peddler was willing to move the piece. I also have a replica Rolex bracelet in my office now which I got for free that is of very good quality with screwed links and I am willing to bet a better clasp than the one which is on your watch.

You can point out a lot of things, but you haven't stated what's wrong with it, go AHEAD and prove how each one of those things you listed are an instant dead giveaway that this is a poor qualiy replica.

As for things I find wrong with your watch or at least the one which you pictured, first off the case dimensions and finish is slightly wrong, that was the first thing which struck me, secondly the hour markers are incorrect, they are not shaped exactly right, the luminous material isn't applied as it should be on an authentic Rolex, the hash marks on the bezel along with the numeral markings are incorrect, not fine enough and somewhat sloppy. Your chrono pushers should have two rings milled into them on the outermost part which from your pictures I don't see any rings. The bracelet is all wrong, the tell tale sign is the SELs or the solid end links (which I feel yours only has replica solid look links), on a real Rolex it is much cleaner of an execution, also on the back of your bracelet there are wings which retain your sels, on a real rolex there are no metal retaining wings or tabs but instead it is a flush fit. The crystal on your watch is an incorrect height. The fonts used on the dial are close but not exactly correct, and I don't know where you get your info about chronos not working on high quality fakes as I can assure you on the really good ones they do work and they work well.

I've wore this for a week, played basketball, worked out, and the lens are IMMACULATE. Plastic lenses would have had many scratches already. I know, i've owned a few timex watches. My friend has a $10 fake rolex, and his cyclops are completely scratched up, so is his band. Mine is still IMMACULATE.

I have a $100 Invicta which has a plastic crystal which is also immaculate...timex uses a very cheap plastic lens whereas if you have an ok lens then they will last and look wonderful.

Secondly, if you look at the center links of the band very closely, which has a mirror finish, you will see there is a very slight brushed texture on it. This is a sign that it uses real high grade stainless steel, and not some chrome plated crap the $3-5 fake ones use.

My links are connected by SCREWS, not pins. Only the highest quality japanese made and all the swiss made watches use screws and not pins.

See above, this means nothing, the finish is irrelavent as I have had many very very cheap bracelets which have a good finish, also the finish does not tell the quality of steel used. Again I have a replica Rolex bracelet of very high quality which I got for nothing which uses screw pins and many of the aftermarket bracelets I have seen for under $15 also have screw pins so this in and of itself is not an indicator of cost or quality.

My watch has an authetic looking 3d holographic sticker with a flat smooth base. Another sign that it's a very well made replica. Most replicas have either clear bases, or fancy logo engravings, or a green knockoff sticker that looks nowhere real. Only swiss made replicas have the holographic sticker. And no it's not just a sticker, hologram stickers are very difficult to counterfeit.

Under the crown, there is a rubber sealant gasket, which is also only found in high quality replicas. In $200 and below replicas, there are only springs there, and no such sealing.

Mine is definately automatic, which I'm pretty sure it uses the ETA 25-jewel movement. The second hand ticks about 4 times a second, and is very stable. Quartz counterfeits usually have WORKING chronographs, because they are battery powered, or they have chronographs working as a calendar.
If you've ever done some shopping for replica watches, you'll find that MOST swiss made daytona replicas DO NOT have working chronographs. Lastly when I shake my watch, I can hear something spinning inside if I put the watch next to my ear. Quartz watches do not do this.

All this evidence leads me to believe this is SWISS made, since no other replicas besides swiss made ones offer these features. I DARE you to find me a $3-5 or even $200 one with all the things I've described.

I'll start off by saying that there are no true "swiss" made replicas, generally when companies use this term they mean a replica featuring a swiss movement where the case is either made in japan or italy if gold and assembled in japan. Secondly the fact that your chrono doesn't work leads me to believe this is a poor copy as generally with all of the "good" ones I have seen the chrono is quite functional.


So obviously, you can just pull crap outta your ass to try to discredit me, but I've done my research and will not be so easily convinced by a bunch of crap with no proof or even explanation behind it.

lol, try doing some more research...again I have been an enthusiast for the past five + years focusing mainly on Rolex and Omega and have learned what I consider alot in the process...you might be best served either going to www.timezone.com and posting pics and your thoughts there and see how they react :)
 

feelingshorter

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Really, what is so special about a Rolex? I have a nice Pulsar watch that shouldn't have been more than $50 and I think it does the job. :p

kidding me?!?!
 

gotensan01

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Just a fun little thing that some of you guys might be able to check on. I think this model of Rolex is the same one Uma Thurman uses to check the time when she is taking her pregnancy test in Kill Bill 2. Maybe someone can confirm this.
 

yhelothar

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Actually I only know what I have learned in the past five years of being a watch enthusiast who specializes in Rolex and Omega's history, products and or company strategies along with a few other brands. With regards to replicas and cost I was referring average street value, and I have seen more than a few Rolex replicas which were very good for under $20 depending on how willing the peddler was willing to move the piece. I also have a replica Rolex bracelet in my office now which I got for free that is of very good quality with screwed links and I am willing to bet a better clasp than the one which is on your watch.
Exactly, what you know has nothing to do with watch replicas. And what you've seen on the street has nothing to do with high quality replicas, since people on the street generally do not sell replicas worth more than $50, because it carries a large risk for them. This leads me to believe you know nothing about high quality replicas, and you are inherently talking about the quality you've seen on the street, and not my replica.
Also how are you willing to bet yours has a better clasp, when you cannot even see the clasp in the pictures I've posted? Shows you are talking blindly.

first off the case dimensions and finish is slightly wrong, that was the first thing which struck me, secondly the hour markers are incorrect, they are not shaped exactly right, the luminous material isn't applied as it should be on an authentic Rolex,
First sign that you are full of shît! How can you tell the dimensions of the case just by looking at super closeup pictures that has no other object to compare the proportion of the objects? All you possibly have as an object of comparison is my skinny asian wrists, which probably makes the watch appear larger than it really is.
Another sign you are full of shi?, how can you tell there is no luminous material? It only illuminates in the dark, that is the function of the luminous material. The fact is, mine does illuminate in the dark.

Your chrono pushers should have two rings milled into them on the outermost part which from your pictures I don't see any rings.
And yet another sign you are full of shît. How can you possibly tell if the outer right are seperate and screws or not from pictures? The fact is they are seperate, and I can screw the outer rings out from the inner knob.

The bracelet is all wrong, the tell tale sign is the SELs or the solid end links (which I feel yours only has replica solid look links),
wtf are solid look links? I googled this up and found 0 sites about it, while SEL's brought up a few good sites that thorougly explained what they were.

also on the back of your bracelet there are wings which retain your sels, on a real rolex there are no metal retaining wings or tabs but instead it is a flush fit.
Good find, this is the only true thing you've said so far.

and I don't know where you get your info about chronos not working on high quality fakes as I can assure you on the really good ones they do work and they work well.
Check out the site above you that sold three different qualities of replica daytona's. Not even the $1500 highest quality version had working chronos.
Yes there are many sites that do sell them with working chronos, but there are also a lot do not. Also there are cheap replicas that are battery operated quartz with working chronos. The fact that mine doesn't work is a good sign that it's not battery operated quartz.

I'll start off by saying that there are no true "swiss" made replicas, generally when companies use this term they mean a replica featuring a swiss movement where the case is either made in japan or italy if gold and assembled in japan. Secondly the fact that your chrono doesn't work leads me to believe this is a poor copy as generally with all of the "good" ones I have seen the chrono is quite functional.
Yes I have explained my understanding of that in a pervious post, which it seems like you have missed. Swiss made means most or all the parts come from switzerland, then brought into china where it is assembeled, and then it is often shipped back to switzerland for fine tuning. No replicas are made outside of China.

lol, try doing some more research...again I have been an enthusiast for the past five + years focusing mainly on Rolex and Omega and have learned what I consider alot in the process...you might be best served either going to www.timezone.com and posting pics and your thoughts there and see how they react
try doing some research yourself, on replicas, which is the thing we are talking about. Thank you for the link, I will check out timezone.com
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Exactly, what you know has nothing to do with watch replicas. And what you've seen on the street has nothing to do with high quality replicas, since people on the street generally do not sell replicas worth more than $50, because it carries a large risk for them. This leads me to believe you know nothing about high quality replicas, and you are inherently talking about the quality you've seen on the street, and not my replica.
Also how are you willing to bet yours has a better clasp, when you cannot even see the clasp in the pictures I've posted? Shows you are talking blindly.

1. In my five years of "study" while my focus was mainly on "the real deal" I also took it upon myself to learn as much about replicas as I possibly could as I did not want to run the risk of purcasing a replica unknowingly, so contrary to what you would like to believe I do happen to know quite a bit, also in going off of the pictures you posted as a reference point, you can clearly see the clasp and I assure you the one which I have is much nicer.

First sign that you are full of shît! How can you tell the dimensions of the case just by looking at super closeup pictures that has no other object to compare the proportion of the objects? All you possibly have as an object of comparison is my skinny asian wrists, which probably makes the watch appear larger than it really is.

Look at picture number 2, look at where the chrono pushers meet the case and see how the back is cut out into the case, on a real Rolex this will not be cut out as seen here:

http://images.andale.com/f2/106/117/7588423/1051042775068_116520_BLK_K_Back.jpg

Also look at the height of the case back, the picture you show is far too tall, a real Rolex has a much thinner profile, also there is the model number on your hologram and the fact your hologram isn't truly a hologram but instead just a plain sticker....

Another sign you are full of shi?, how can you tell there is no luminous material? It only illuminates in the dark, that is the function of the luminous material. The fact is, mine does illuminate in the dark.

I am not taking about how it lights up but rather how it is applied, the markers on your pictures are too tall and too sloppy, a real Rolex has much lower height markers and they are much cleaner on the dial.

And yet another sign you are full of shît. How can you possibly tell if the outer right are seperate and screws or not from pictures? The fact is they are seperate, and I can screw the outer rings out from the inner knob.

I am talking about on the ends of the pushers, not the part that screws down but the solid part one they are screwed in, on a real Rolex there are two circles engracved around the circumference, yours has none.

wtf are solid look links? I googled this up and found 0 sites about it, while SEL's brought up a few good sites that thorougly explained what they were.

The links on the watch which you pictured, or the end links rather are not "solid" however they are formed in a way so they appear to be solid...

Yes there are many sites that do sell them with working chronos, but there are also a lot do not. Also there are cheap replicas that are battery operated quartz with working chronos. The fact that mine doesn't work is a good sign that it's not battery operated quartz.

The "good" fakes all have working chronos and cannot be distinguised from a Real Rolex without cracking the case, the simple fact your chrono does not work leads me to believe it is a lesser fake.

Yes I have explained my understanding of that in a pervious post, which it seems like you have missed. Swiss made means most or all the parts come from switzerland, then brought into china where it is assembeled, and then it is often shipped back to switzerland for fine tuning. No replicas are made outside of China.

Swiss made means assembled in switzerland, what you are talking about is the BS that fake companies try to get meatballs to believe.

try doing some research yourself, on replicas, which is the thing we are talking about. Thank you for the link, I will check out timezone.com

I suggest you ditch the fake and get something that is real with its own personality...if you want a good Rolex hommage piece buy a RXW.

and to the person who mentioned Kill Bill 2, yes this is the same watch and ironically the one used in the movie was also a Fake.
 

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, also in going off of the pictures you posted as a reference point, you can clearly see the clasp and I assure you the one which I have is much nicer.
You could? They look out of focus and blurry to me...

Look at picture number 2, look at where the chrono pushers meet the case and see how the back is cut out into the case, on a real Rolex this will not be cut out as seen here
Are you saying the buttons are too big? They look the same to me judging by the pictures, and you can't even really tell considering the pictures are at a different angle and has a much different size from each other.

Also look at the height of the case back, the picture you show is far too tall, a real Rolex has a much thinner profile, also there is the model number on your hologram and the fact your hologram isn't truly a hologram but instead just a plain sticker....
Again I don't see how you can see the size difference in the pictures. Judging from this sideview of a real rolex, it looks the same to me.

How is my sticker not a hologram? When I change angles, I could see the image changing, this is indeed what makes it a hologram. Yes my hologram has the wrong model number, but that is the only flaw. And no one really goes around memorizing rolex model numbers either.

I am talking about on the ends of the pushers, not the part that screws down but the solid part one they are screwed in, on a real Rolex there are two circles engracved around the circumference, yours has none.
What circles are you talking about? Look at the sideview picture from the link I posted, the button is smooth with no such circles.
I am not taking about how it lights up but rather how it is applied, the markers on your pictures are too tall and too sloppy, a real Rolex has much lower height markers and they are much cleaner on the dial.
Yes you can tell a 0.2mm difference from comparing two pictures.. uh huh.. :roll:
Oh and I'm sure you can tell that the markers are pointing 2° off from the authentic thing by looking at the pictures..:roll:

The links on the watch which you pictured, or the end links rather are not "solid" however they are formed in a way so they appear to be solid...
And you know that how? You cannot tell from looking at the pictures, you're clearly just assuming. The only way you can tell is to feel the weight, which you cannot by looking at the pictures.

The "good" fakes all have working chronos and cannot be distinguised from a Real Rolex without cracking the case, the simple fact your chrono does not work leads me to believe it is a lesser fake.
Yes my fake is lesser than the best fakes made, but it doesn't mean it's not a good fake..

Swiss made means assembled in switzerland, what you are talking about is the BS that fake companies try to get meatballs to believe.
And you know this how again? I read on replicacentral.com, who are experts on watch replicas, that no replicas are assembled in anywhere but China. They aren't a company selling anything either.

I suggest you ditch the fake and get something that is real with its own personality...if you want a good Rolex hommage piece buy a RXW.
My fake is a well built watch, and I got it for free. I'm not going to shell money for a new watch, when I already have a good watch, fake or not. I'm not wearing this for "personality".
 

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Holy sh*t, this thread is getting way to serious IMO :(
 

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
I don't think they sell for anywhere near $1,500. More like $100 advertised with all the engravings and the ETA movement.
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You= Dumb. Some people like spending 300 dollars on watches that will last for a LONG time. Before my Swiss Army Titanium, I had Timex digital ones...the 40 dollar ones? Broke within months. I've had this one for 2 years, and haven't had a SINGLE problem.

Horus, I can't figure out how your reply relates to the fact that I don't think the fake Rolexes sell for $1,500.

Since you called me dumb for no apparent reason, I will let just your own words reflect upon you.
 

i have a real, and a fake of the exact model
the fake was purchased for less than 50 bucks (in the philippines)

according the virtualgames' info, my 50 dollar fake is actually a 1500 dollar swiss replica

everything on the internet is true ya know