My conversation with the ITS peoples

[Pegun]

So, I got up on campus a few weeks ago, and i used to to mirc alot. The school uses this stupid Cisco Clean Access Agent that messes up people's computers more than it helps and they use McAfee enterprise which merely makes sure the servers aren't infested, but anyone on the network is ok. So because of both of those, i had to uninstall my 3 year subscription to McAfee AV, which is the first thing I'm pissed about. I pay over 100 bucks for this antivirus and I cant use it on Campus? WTF?
But I deal with it. Then I load Mirc. Mirc doesnt work. Change the port, it still doesnt work. So i finally got around (and by around i mean the patience) to call ITS about it. The kid tells me

"Oh Mirc is blocked."
"Why?"
"Because people use it to download torrents"
"No people use torrentspy and other such trackers to download torrents"
"Oh, well, its blocked due to piracy and downloading"
"Then why dont you block AIM, MSN messenger, ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, Trillian and other such chat programs as well since they can be sued to "pirate" as well"
"Oh well i think we'd have a lot more complaints if we blocked them.
"Well consider this your first complaint about Mirc. "
"Listen, all i can tell you is that mirc always has been blocked and always will be"
"No"
"excuse me?"
"You dont know what you're taling about. I used it last year for Tech support. Companies such as Winamp and many engineering companies also use it for tech support."
"Well i cant control that"
"Then tell me someone who can"
"One of our network adminstrators"
"Like who?"
"Um I dont know"
"Great you've been a huge amount of help " *click*

I Hate how schools put people with no such intelligence about computers into an ITS job. Do some research yourself, dont just follow what they tell you, idiot!

 

[KLin]

Did you really need to be that big of an asshole?

 

[yllus]

Sucks.

You know, I find it sort of amazing that network technology has come that far along. Wonder if you can find some encryption tunneling software to get past it...

 

[BrownTown]

can't you use another IRC client?

 

[Pegun]

First off yes, i needed to be that much of an asshole to people who dont know what they're talking about. No, xchat doesnt work, nor does mirc or chatzilla. I think they somehow blocked the entire protocol. I'm triyng to figure something out. One of my friends *said* he had a successful vpn tunnel to his house but im not quite sure

 

[thirdlegstump]

Just get another ISP. IT will not open up an application just for one little kid who knows just a little bit more than the next door Joe.

 

[KarmaPolice]

College help desk..or the people that take the calls know nothing. I worked for my school last semester....they didnt know anything. of course i worked where we actualy did stuff.


Sweet job tho...they just sit there and wait...play most video games

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Pegun
First off yes, i needed to be that much of an asshole to people who dont know what they're talking about. No, xchat doesnt work, nor does mirc or chatzilla. I think they somehow blocked the entire protocol. I'm triyng to figure something out. One of my friends *said* he had a successful vpn tunnel to his house but im not quite sure

move off campus, it IS there rules.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Pegun
First off yes, i needed to be that much of an asshole to people who dont know what they're talking about. No, xchat doesnt work, nor does mirc or chatzilla. I think they somehow blocked the entire protocol. I'm triyng to figure something out. One of my friends *said* he had a successful vpn tunnel to his house but im not quite sure

move off campus, it IS their rules.

Yep, their rules.

 

[brtspears2]

Bah, get a shell account somewhere and IRC from there. No need to explain, you seem to know it all.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Pegun
. So because of both of those, i had to uninstall my 3 year subscription to McAfee AV, which is the first thing I'm pissed about. I pay over 100 bucks for this antivirus and I cant use it on Campus? WTF?

I Hate how schools put people with no such intelligence about computers into an ITS job. Do some research yourself, dont just follow what they tell you, idiot!

First off.. AVG antivirus is free. Saving a poor college student $100. And the guys does what he is told... otherwise he gets fired.

 

[jlbenedict]

OP must not be well versed in mIRC.

mIRC has always been used for pirating. Its been around way before the time of Pirate Bay, Torrent Spy, Kaaza, Bearshare, and all this other p2p crap that is out there nowdays. With all the P2P sites getting sued, I'm sure mIRC activity has picked back up. mIRC along with NNTP has always been known as the underground.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
OP must not be well versed in mIRC.

mIRC has always been used for pirating. Its been around way before the time of Pirate Bay, Torrent Spy, Kaaza, Bearshare, and all this other p2p crap that is out there nowdays. With all the P2P sites getting sued, I'm sure mIRC activity has picked back up. mIRC along with NNTP has always been known as the underground.

I <3 IRC

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Pegun
So, I got up on campus a few weeks ago, and i used to to mirc alot. The school uses this stupid Cisco Clean Access Agent that messes up people's computers more than it helps and they use McAfee enterprise which merely makes sure the servers aren't infested, but anyone on the network is ok. So because of both of those, i had to uninstall my 3 year subscription to McAfee AV, which is the first thing I'm pissed about. I pay over 100 bucks for this antivirus and I cant use it on Campus? WTF?
But I deal with it. Then I load Mirc. Mirc doesnt work. Change the port, it still doesnt work. So i finally got around (and by around i mean the patience) to call ITS about it. The kid tells me

"Oh Mirc is blocked."
"Why?"
"Because people use it to download torrents"
"No people use torrentspy and other such trackers to download torrents"
"Oh, well, its blocked due to piracy and downloading"
"Then why dont you block AIM, MSN messenger, ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, Trillian and other such chat programs as well since they can be sued to "pirate" as well"
"Oh well i think we'd have a lot more complaints if we blocked them.
"Well consider this your first complaint about Mirc. "
"Listen, all i can tell you is that mirc always has been blocked and always will be"
"No"
"excuse me?"
"You dont know what you're taling about. I used it last year for Tech support. Companies such as Winamp and many engineering companies also use it for tech support."
"Well i cant control that"
"Then tell me someone who can"
"One of our network adminstrators"
"Like who?"
"Um I dont know"
"Great you've been a huge amount of help " *click*

I Hate how schools put people with no such intelligence about computers into an ITS job. Do some research yourself, dont just follow what they tell you, idiot!

Who told you to uninstall your macafee virus scan?
AFAIK... the cisco product is supposed to disconnect you from the network (via port locking) if your antivirus and windows arent up to date. Its not a virus scan itself

 

[Savij]

Way to be an asshole. You showed that guy who the l337 haxor is. Way to go. You rock.

 

[TheoPetro]

umm do you go to kent state?

 

[oddyager]

Let's put it this way. The technician at the other end probably does standard help desk calls and is probably told that certain protocols, services, etc are blocked because they are known avenues for downloading and uploading illegal crap (like mIRC). The intricacies behind this doesn't need to be explained to him or to you because it's THEIR rule. Don't like it? It's simple. Live off-campus.

 

[Runes911]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
OP must not be well versed in mIRC.

mIRC has always been used for pirating. Its been around way before the time of Pirate Bay, Torrent Spy, Kaaza, Bearshare, and all this other p2p crap that is out there nowdays. With all the P2P sites getting sued, I'm sure mIRC activity has picked back up. mIRC along with NNTP has always been known as the underground.

Yep. Mirc is what I used back in my music download days. The tech was correct he just used the wrong termanology.

"Because people use it to download torrents"

Should have been

"Because people use it to download music and software illegaly."

 

[FrequencyX]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
OP must not be well versed in mIRC.

mIRC has always been used for pirating. Its been around way before the time of Pirate Bay, Torrent Spy, Kaaza, Bearshare, and all this other p2p crap that is out there nowdays. With all the P2P sites getting sued, I'm sure mIRC activity has picked back up. mIRC along with NNTP has always been known as the underground.

Agreed. I used to hang on Newnet servers and frequent Warez-underground and a few others from 1995-1998. Up untill they started cracking down on the warez scene. When the internet was not so heavily regulated.

 

[PingSpike]

You showed him who the top asshole is around here!

 

[FoBoT]

so i guess you're a pirate

 

[Randum]

I am sitting at our IT help desk, and yes...the knowledge of computer skillz is about the following;
Turn on computer
Log in

and the knowledge stops there...sometimes iwant to go crazy...and if ihear one more time how great a mac is.....shoot me!!!

 

[MisterJackson]

Ur 1337!!!11!!

 

[So]

Yeah, they have most standard IRC ports blocked here too.

 

[lokiju]

You sound like a prick buddy.

That ITS person is just there to answer the phones and help with technical issues, not change policy.

Maybe if you took 2 seconds to consider this you wouldn't be posting it on here.