My computer partially died. (EDIT: The motherboard is toast. Help me upgrade!)

Thegonagle

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My good old 5 year old BH6 based rig, running a C-566 at 850, just crashed a few nights ago while I was at work (more often than not, I just leave my computer running when I go out).

When I came home and sat down at my desk, I wiggled the mouse to turn on the monitor, and nothing happened. I heard the fans running, and looked down. Power light's on, and, oh, that's odd: the HD light is on solid. Great, I thought. It's probably time to clean that heat sink again.

Next, I pressed the reset button. Nothing. OK, so I pressed and held the power button. I waited. Hmmm. . . The power should be turning off by now. This is kind of weird. . . But crashes can do odd things. . . So, as a last resort, I reached back and pulled the power cord. As I waited the customary 3-5 seconds before I plugged it back in, I noticed that I wasn't hearing the HD spin down.

When I plugged the power cord back in and pressed the power button, I quickly realized that something was wrong with the hardware. I got no picture, no POST, no HD spin, no video signal even (the monitor remained in sleep mode).

In summary, here are the symptoms: When I plug it in, I need to press the power button to get it to turn on. Then the fans all start running (12 volts), but there's no video signal, no POST beep, no HD spin-up (unless I disconnect the IDE cable!), and the HD light just turns on solid, whether or not the IDE cable is connected. The only way to turn off the power is to unplug the power cord or the MB connector. The purple wire to the MB connector has a constant 5 volts, and the red and yellow wires have 5 and 12 volts, respectively, when the power turns on. I can't test the rest of the MB wires, because the harness must be connected for the power supply to turn on.

What'chall think?

Thanks in advance for any help or further insight.

EDIT: The motherboard is toast :( . Oh well. It had a good run. See below.

 

trak0rr0kart

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Sound like a mobo problem... maybe even your cpu or memory. try changing out those parts and see if it will post. If not.. then try taking out cards and test the backup batt.
 

Thegonagle

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The lithium cell is at 3.0v. New, they're about 3.2, but 3.0 should still be fine, I think.

I'm digging out a different Celeron to try right now.
 

Thegonagle

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I tried a different Celeron. It made no difference, and nothing ever will. I took a closer look at the board, and noticed that some of the electrolytic caps were bulging on top, and some ferrite-coil thing looked a little burned. When I touched it, it seperated itself from the board, and now it's hanging by a small thread of trace.

Looks like it's finally time to upgrade. This P-150 I'm on just isn't cutting it.

Thanks.
 

bjc112

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Try and post with just a CPU, Video Card and one stick of ram, in different slots if you are still having troubles...

Good Luck...

Report back with some good news! ;)
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: Garfang
I tried a different Celeron. No difference, and nothing ever will. I took a closer look at the board, and noticed that some of the electrolytic caps were bulging on top, and some ferrite-coil thing looked a little burned. When I touched it, it seperated itself from the board, and now it's hanging by a small thread of trace.

Looks like it's finally time to upgrade. This P-150 I'm on just isn't cutting it.

Thanks.

Ouch, i think that happened to my Epox 8k7a... I had a power surge and the main plug for the ATX seems to be burned on a few pins....

Time for the RMA..

:D

 

bjc112

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Before you RMA i would try and post with just the cpu, vid, and ram though...

never know, worth your time...
 

billyjak

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A case of the leaking capacitors, it's been documented that some manufacturers have been selling mobos with these cheap pieces.
Someone stoled the recipe and it wasen't all there, so the capaicitors leak over time buldge and blow.

Time for a new motherboard. It's cheaper than replacing all the capacitors
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: bjc112
Try and post with just a CPU, Video Card and one stick of ram, in different slots if you are still having troubles...

Good Luck...

Report back with some good news! ;)

:( See my bad news above.

Now what am I supposed to buy? I haven't kept up lately. I want DDR, but that's all I know. Which Intel chipset is current? Which AMD chipset is the most stable/compatible? (Which AMD chipset is best, if you will?)

Research, research, decisions, decisions. . .

EDIT: There will be no RMA. This board is too old.
 

Thegonagle

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Yes, I think it's time. I'll make do with my old vid card and harddrive for a while though.

I'm thinking new MB, CPU, and RAM. AFAIK, I need a new power supply since ATX is obsolete, and it's only a 250 watter. I'd like a new case, since the old one is getting a little beat-up looking.

My budget's probably going to be around $500. I'd like to invest in a good-quality motherboard for stability and longevity. Integrated sound would be a small plus, if it's any good, and IDE RAID would be a big plus.
 

bjc112

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358.00

That should suit you nicely...

I got you the Pc-3200 considering you might want to do some overclocking... PLus it is only 10 bucs more :D

Anyhow some swear by Antecs for the PSU but i consider Enlight pretty damn reliable...

:D
 

bjc112

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There is onboard Audio which is great on the Nforce chipsets and also Onboard LAN...

raid is a different story,
 

Thegonagle

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Video? Do'h! It's embarrasingly out of date, but so was the whole system.

It's a Hercules Nvidia something-MX (the first "MX" that they released). If I'm going to upgrade the video, the key words will be "bang for the buck." If ATI runs fine with Win XP without any issues, I'd get one of those, otherwise, Nvidia might be better for me. Remember, I basically just want my computer to work without odd issues (overclocking aside ;) ;) ).
 

bjc112

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Sweet... Well since we came in around 358, add 175 and you have an AWESOME video card in the 9500 PRO... Bringing you a bit over 500...

Or you could go with the 128 meg 8500 LE, runs on par with the Geforce 3 and what not... 85 bucs..

:D

Will run with XP perfectly.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: bjc112
358.00

That should suit you nicely...

I got you the Pc-3200 considering you might want to do some overclocking... PLus it is only 10 bucs more :D

Anyhow some swear by Antecs for the PSU but i consider Enlight pretty damn reliable...

:D

Overclocking? But, of course!

I'm not seeing the link, but I'm using Opera (it's significantly faster on this P-150). Give me a little bit. I'm going to fire up IE and try.

Did I mention that this p-150 is running XP and has 32MB EDO + 64MB of FPM? I tried 98, but my PCI modem wouldn't work without that driver disc that I must have lost. This sucks!
 

bjc112

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Plus 85 for that 8500LE... (128 meg version)

Subtotal » $358.00
 

bjc112

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You could go with the p4 route.. for about 528..

Everything is the same,

Abit BH7

2.4B

Chances of hitting 3ghz are good.

:D

Either way, you will have a pretty nice system.
 

Thegonagle

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IE didn't work either. It just says "wish list empty" or something, so thanks for pasting up that list.

It looks like I won't be paying off that credit card this month.

I guess I don't need RAID, if Nforce is otherwise great.

I've got to go to work now, but thanks very much.