My computer is running like crap.

MikeMike

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well, i have dx 9 installed, and NFS:U doesnt work, its all choppy.

C&C generals, is choppy, @ 8x600. and my performance seems to be insanely slow. i havent been messing with it much, but i downclocked my CPU back to 1.8, and have 768mb or ram, ti4200, it7 MAX.

i know i should defrag, but what is a good program??

also, are there any suggestions, as to what else i should check? i have some 40.xx drivers installed i believe.

MIKE
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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DiskKeeper is a great defrag tool.

The windows defrag does an ok job I guess.

Also, turn the AA and aniso down a little ;)
 

MikeMike

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aa and aniso is off.

that i have checked multiple times. i used to run C&C generals with full AA and ANiso @ 1280x960 w/o any slowdowns.

MIKE
 

StraightPipe

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a reformat might be instore, if your system is whacked,

just make sure you get all your driver's backed up before you do it. You'll be really happy with the performance boost of a fresh install, if it's been a while
 

MikeMike

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bah, i hate having to reformat.

thats 120 gb worth of data. although, some is duplicate.

MIKE
 

CraigRT

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formatting shouldn't make games run any faster.. that's ridiculous :p

something's out of wack though
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: CraigRT
formatting shouldn't make games run any faster.. that's ridiculous :p

something's out of wack though

I don't know what you're talking about.... I can always feel the difference after I reformat from a decrepit windows install. You should be reformatting as often as you change the oil in your car at the LATEST.
 

dguy6789

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The only reason you should ever reformat is, if you have a problem that cant be solved any other way. If you know how to maintain a computer, your computer will be just as fast with a fresh install, as a 3 year old one. Keep the running programs low, defrag once a day, make sure your temp internet files are small, and you will be fine.
 

Chrishuff1

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Man update your drivers! They are up to 53.03 now! I've been runnin 42.xx and saw a nice boost when I updated. I have a GeForce3TI200 btw.
 

StraightPipe

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ehh, thats definately debatable...

it really depends on what goes on your PC. Back in the day I used to get these demo discs in the mail from PC mags, that were loaded with games. after intstalling 50-100 games in a month or 2, then trying to unistall all of them, things would be a little quirky. a quick reformat will clear up all those protely programed apps that dont have good uninstallers.

I keep all my drivers and apps on discs in a folder so i can quickly handle a reformat. ( i also have extra hard drives on my home network that i can use for back-ups )

If your asystem is running fine then, you obviously dont need to go to the extremes (format) but if you have weird stuff going on, and have ensured all your drivers are brand spanking new, then the ol' reformat is a really good option. just make sure you take the time to back up all your data first, and dont forget the most important step (which is commonly forgotten) back up all your drivers to disc so you have them all ready when you erase all.

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back to the thread :

make sure you do have some clean drivers for your vid card.

monitor your CPU usage when your at youer windows desktop too, if it's higher than 2-10% your got something running in the background that is slowing you down.
see what other apps are running when you're trying to play the game, they could be slowing you too (norton can kill frame rate sometimes :) ). if that taskbar has a whole bunch of crap in it you should probly work on closing them out, so they dont autostart on re-boot.

if you still cant get anything to run smooth you probly need to try the clean sweep (reformat). it will make a big difference in for Pc is crudded up with junk.
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oh yeah, defrag: this shouldnt affect your ingame performance too much, since your PC shouldnt be "swapping to disc" while playing the game, jsut on level changes and what not.

fragmented drives will definately slow windows a bit, but likely not the problem here
 

MikeMike

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ok, i think i know my problem, which is page filing, but i cant figure out how to disable something.

i had loaded ram disk on here, and it takes 88 megs up. so i believe that is why it is going to disk. however, i cant figure out, how to disable the ram drive, and how to end that process. i dont know what the process would be called.

MIKE
 

mechBgon

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The RAMdisk may look like a hardware driver to Windows. I know Microsoft's own RAMdisk sample driver does. Try Add/Remove Hardware and see if it's listed.

Also, try reinstalling your motherboard driver pack (e.g. the nVidia 3.13 unified driver pack for an nForce or nForce2 board, or the Intel INFs for an Intel i8xx-series board, or the VIA 4-in-1's for a VIA-based board). Make sure DMA is enabled on your IDE controllers. Holler if you need a hand with those.
 

MikeMike

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the hard drives are in DMA 5, and the cd-roms in dma 2 (i think, i might have flipped, but that makes sense)

i gotta find the inf's, but i know i installed them once.

what i dont see is, remove hardware.

MIKE
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: CraigRT
formatting shouldn't make games run any faster.. that's ridiculous :p

something's out of wack though

I don't know what you're talking about.... I can always feel the difference after I reformat from a decrepit windows install. You should be reformatting as often as you change the oil in your car at the LATEST.

framerates have nothing to do with a dirty hard drive.. i don't care what you say.

slow programs opening, errors, things like that.. are good after formatting... but bad framerates is a directx/video driver/AGP/chipset driver problem... not a dirty hard disk problem.
 

MikeMike

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i ran adaware, and it found 2 things (registry stuff, dont know how, but hey anything can happen). i havent downloaded anything lately, and have a firewall, etc.


MIKE
 

aka1nas

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Is this the same rig as is on your sig? Are you still watercooling it? What temperature is your P4 running at? Maybe your water cooling system is losing efficiency or is dirty or something and your temps are getting high enough for the thermal throttling to kick in.
 

MikeMike

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at stock speeds, im at 38C, i know i need to reseat the CPU heatsink, but thats cuz i was lazy last time i threw my mobo in, and didnt put some rubber things behind the mobo to keep it from grounding out.

i just installed 9.0b and the frame rates didnt change, also, i just updated my drivers to the latest 53.xx and havent restarted yet so that might help, but i dont know.

MIKE