my cd rom has vanished!!! i think maybe because i just updated my VIA 4 in 1 drivers !!! what do i do? (FIXED!)

acidvoodoo

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i just went to install half life, and the cd rom drive has disappeared from my computer

thinking back, today i installed the latest 4 in 1 drivers for my via motherbaord, and when restarting the computer said something about some problem(blue screen) and said it would sort it out, i didn't really take much notice, i think something to do with the IDE controller, then after that i booted up again, didn't notice much, oh but windows detected all this new hard ware, to do with IDE controllers (this was the first time i updated the drivers since i got the motherboard like 2 years ago).
looking at device manager, and the hard disk controller, there is the primary IDE controller, and secondary IDE controller, both have yellow exclamation marks by them, then it says there is a standard dual PCI controler, which does not have a ! next to it (oh but i don't actually have a PCI card that controls the hard drives what the hell?)
what do i need to do to get my cd rom back? i just resently formated and reinstalled windows i don't want to have to do all that again!

specs

amd k6-2 450mhz
128mb SDRAM
Fic Va 503+
western digital 12.6 GB hard drive secondary master
P.O.S 1.7gb hard drive as primary master (not used though)
cd rom is secondary slave
windows 95
 

kgraeme

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First, have you tried clicking the refresh button in the device manager? In the DM does the CD-ROM category show up but with no drives, or is it missing altogether?

I recall something similar happening to me and it did have to do with the VIA ide drivers. I think you can try just reinstalling that part from the 4-in-1.
 

acidvoodoo

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the cd rom is usually is the 'disk drive' catagory, right? if so, then just the cd rom drive is missing, ok i'll try reinstalling the driver
 

acidvoodoo

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agh, just tried reinstalling those drivers it hasn't worked saw the same blue screen error notice again, somethign about 32 bit drivers that aren't compatible or something,
oh, and the BIOS does detect the cd drive is there

can i install some cd rom drivers that i have on a bootdisk i have? any idea how?
 

bacillus

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in case it's the NoIDe bug,
Click Start, then Run... , and type regedit
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\IOS
if you should see a value named "NoIDE". Delete it, close regedit and reboot!
 

acidvoodoo

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<< in case it's the NoIDe bug,
Click Start, then Run... , and type regedit
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\IOS
if you should see a value named "NoIDE". Delete it, close regedit and reboot!
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ok i did that, there was a no IDE tab there, i deleted it, rebooted, on boot up got that same old blue sreeen notice, rebooted again, and i just checked and the No IDE thing has reappeared, what should i do?
 

Mem

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<< then it says there is a standard dual PCI controler, which does not have a ! next to it (oh but i don't actually have a PCI card that controls the hard drives what the hell?) >>




Hmmm you tried removing it from device manager then,it may be risky but worth a shot if you are out of options.

Also there`s an option to uninstall the VIA 4 IN 1 drivers when you go to install them so you could try unistalling them.
 

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I had the same problem. I ended up living with it for a while and eventually formatting my system.
 

bacillus

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hmm, what version via drivers did you update from & to what version?
have you tried uninstalling the via drivers?
 

acidvoodoo

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ok, i tried removing from device manager standard dual PCI controler , it froze, so i booted up in safe mode and did it, rebooted, and windows annoyingly detected it again

i also told it to unistall those drivers (i click the setup file then tell it to unistall them right?) rebooted, and it detected all the things that it originally detected, it seems that everytime i touch that file, on boot up it detects a few things like 'cpu to ide' 'cpu to agp' something like that

any more ideas?
can't i install the drivers off a bootdisk i have?
 

acidvoodoo

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oh, and i don't think i had a previous version of these installed, this was the first time i installed them, version 4.37v(a)
 

acidvoodoo

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another thing

if i go to the performace tab in system properties, it says boths drives are using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system, which will slow down system performace or something :S
 

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Assuming you are using Windows XP. The same thing happened to me.

Go read the following FAQ:

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...359&iterationID=1&sessionID=anonymous|7360456

To resolve this behavior, follow these steps:

Start Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe).


Locate the UpperFilters value under the following key in the registry:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
On the Edit menu, click Delete , and then click OK .


Locate the LowerFilters value under the same key in the registry:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
On the Edit menu, click Delete , and then click OK .


Quit Registry Editor.
 

acidvoodoo

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<< Assuming you are using Windows XP. The same thing happened to me.



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this system has windows 95 OS/2 :(
 

acidvoodoo

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i just booted in safe mode to try removing the ide controllers, but it said that one could not be deleted unless some other device was

i alsoo noticed that in safe mode only did the cd rom show up in device manager

also i got a prompt asking for the file 'vatape.vxd', i don't know what it is though and i could not find it, it might be on the windows cd (which i can't get on)
 

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<< ok, i tried removing from device manager standard dual PCI controler , it froze, so i booted up in safe mode and did it, rebooted, and windows annoyingly detected it again

i also told it to unistall those drivers (i click the setup file then tell it to unistall them right?) rebooted, and it detected all the things that it originally detected, it seems that everytime i touch that file, on boot up it detects a few things like 'cpu to ide' 'cpu to agp' something like that

any more ideas?
can't i install the drivers off a bootdisk i have?
>>



Sounds like it is time to

Format C: ;)
 

acidvoodoo

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i only formatted on thursday!!!!!!! it was the most annoying thing ever, as my bootdisk dint work, my k6-2 had to be underclocked to get into windows to download a patch, blah blah blah, i think i'll bombard via with complaints
 

bjc112

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are u using nero of any type.... some how that happened to me before unistalled nero.. and bam.. :p

hope its that easy for u
 

Nocturnal

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reboot?

this happend to me too last night. after i installed cdrwin and the aspi drivers. my cdrw drive disappeared from windows. i rebooted, and it showed up in bios, so i knew it was working.

just make sure it's showing up in bios. if it is, then its a windows problem.
 

acidvoodoo

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<<

<< 'vatape.vxd' >>

^----- you sure of that? or was it .... v(i?)atapi.vxd ?
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yea that's right!!! what is it a cd rom driver or something? i have the feeling if i could get it off my windows cd it might fix everything, who nos, what a waste or time and energy, i installed the drivers, saw no perofmrance increase, and lost my cd rom :(
 

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<<
And so:
First create a new folder in "C" named VIA437
Unzip or (right click "extract") 4 in 1 to VIA437 folder
go to windows explorer, view/folder options/view and uncheck hide sys files - check show all files
uncheck hide known file extensions
now, while in windows explorer, open the "VIA437" tree in left window
the inf files are for your machine interfaces/per your O/S: open that tree also
The IDE busmasters (which ALSO bring along the IDE legacy FIFIO's) FOR YOU are in the "Win9x" folder
NOTE: THEY ARE NOT in the similarly named inf/Win98 folder (thanx a lot VIA for this mish mash)
Once you understand this, you can now go to dev mananger and remove Via busmaster IDE device
(or whatever's there for busmaster) Deleting this will also take out the prim/sec fifo's legacy devices.
While still there, open system devices and remove PCI/ISA - AGP/CPU and PCI CPU devices.
Shut down machine (not reboot). Wait a bit, now boot up again.
When found new wizard comes up for ide, steer it to C:\VIA437\Win9x(type in with x)
When it asks for each three machine drivers, we have a judgement call here, since 95R2 is really 98,
(there is a 95 option here)
so steer these wizards (ea) to C:\VIA437\Inf\Win98 (type in)
If the system says found right driver for your system and loads it, that means its just gonna put in old MS
version of busmaster, and you will have to do a search in resistry and type VIA in "find" and delete every
last reference to that infernal name, and start again.
After a change of device drivers you will have to reset DMA> checkbox

Edit: And for those of the "debate society" here, I know - you have installed the 4 in 1 using setup.exe a
thousand times and never had a problem - , really, I could care less.
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ok, i made that folder, went into safe mode (so system had less chance of hanging) and removed the PCI IDE controller, and those FIFIO controllers were there, and it would not let me delete them because it was a multifunction device,and said to remove the parent device, which it wouldn't say what it was, so i had to leave them :(
i deleted PCI/ISA - AGP/CPU and PCI CPU with no trouble, them i shut down, 10 seconds later turned the system on, it annoyingly found the IDE PCI controller etc (everything i just removed) then it asked for E:\atapi.vxd or something like that (off the windows 95 cd i assume), so i got confused and thought i was supposed to tell it to look in C:\Via437\inf\win95 which didn't work so i did skip file, and i'm here back where i started? i must have done something wrong, any ideas?