My BOX is broken :(

bot2600

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Scenario. System works great...Tyan Tiger dual durons 512 megs ram, DVD, cd reWrite, 30 gig maxtor IDE, Radeon VE, GeForce2mx PCI, Sis graphics something. Went to best buy and bought a 40 gig western digital. put it in slave to maxtor, now the system reboots. system boots up, but it takes twice as long as normal, then after a short period it reboots. have auto reboot on so I dont know what it says, just took it off, so I am going to plug drive back in and see what it says. computer works great until I add the other drive. Jumpers are set right, have tried different jumper settings on both drives anyhow, no change. Drive shows up in My Computer. Power shouldnt be a problem, My dasm loud power supply is 500 watts. Any ideas?


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WHSLacrossekid

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sounds like what happened to my puter...believe it or not, i opened her up and guess what.. My IDE cables some how got switched...dont' ask me how, because no one in my house knows what an ide cable is :)
 

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Are both drives ATA100? Does the motherboard support ATA100? If not you may have to download a little app from WD that will force the drive to ATA66 or ATA33.

Try unhooking all the drives except the WD, you'll also have to pull all the jumpers off to make it work as a single drive in the system. If the system doesn't reboot in DOS then it must be a problem with Winblow$.

If it works fine with the WD as primary master, use Norton Ghost to transfer the contents of the Maxtor to it, then set the Maxtor as Primary Slave.

Good luck!
 

Engineer

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Rob,

What barnd of Ram in that rig? Many have had terrible troubles (including myself) with Crucial Ram installed on this board. Corsair fixed it right up! hmmm....

Good Luck

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bot2600

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The memory is crucial, but if I pull the WD it works fine. WD works fine by itself, and I can boot into DOS and it wont crash, so it is definantyl a problem with Windows. I also tried 34 different IDE cables...:( Well, MAYBE not 34, but close. The MB should support ATA100 since they just came out a couple months ago, but I will check. If this means anything to anyone, here is the error I get in the BSOD

*** STOP:0x00000050 (0xF00000000),08044EFC5,0x00000000
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
*** Address 8044EFC5 base at 80400000, DateStamp 3ad77869 - ntoskrnl.exe

I also took out all but one display adapter and unplugged the cdrom drives, to no avail. I guess now I try reinstalling the IDE drivers, or rever ting back tothe MS IDE drivers instead of the Tyan ones. Times like these I don't particular like my computers.

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Crazee

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The board does ATA100. I just had a customer pick one up not too long ago and it was done with WD Hard Drives. Which version of Windows?
 

bot2600

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Windows 2000 service pack 2. I am installing a newer AMD IDE driver right now, maybe that will do it.

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Crazee

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Here are a few articles from Microsoft's Support site that might relate:

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I don't know if this will help. There were others, but they didn't look like they applied here.
 

bot2600

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well, things just got much cooler. I had to uninstall the old AMD driver to install the new one, so I uninstalled and rebooted and now it wont even boot. I swear to god I am going to sell all my damn computers and get a friggin gamecube.
 

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A corrupted NTFS volume could be the culprit. Try running chkdsk /f /r and see if that helps....
 

bot2600

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I just went back to last known good configuration and it boots fine with just the one drive. Does anyone know if OS/2 has support for large drives now? I have Warp 4 and it's starting to look good right now. And god forbid dont anyone say use Linux. I have played with linux several times and dont particularly like it.

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Here is just my thoughts but try and set the drives to 'Auto Detection' in the BIOS. Also check your boot sequence in BIOS. Your memory sticks over 2 sticks all has to be registered memory. If you suspect memory try using one stick and put it in different slots. Call crucial in the morning and they can tell you where to get on the internet a free test program to test your memory and move the sticks around to see if it is a slot problem on the motherboard.

Best regards,
Bruce
 

Evadman

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I think it might have to do with the WD drives. I am not WD bashing or anything, so do not kill me.

The computer I am on now is a kk266 with a duron 600@950. I had a 30 gig 7200 Maxtor in it, and everything was all good. Then Sams had a deal on a 60 gig 5400 WD drive for $85 so I grabed it up. ( this was about 4 months ago ) I threw it in another computer ( file server ) booted it up once, and left it. Then the 30 gig maxtor was retired, and I decided to put the WD 60 into this computer. I formatted it ( long, slow way, not quick ) and loaded win ME. On reboot, all went well. Then I turned off the computer for the first time. On cold boot, the motherboard would not find the hard drive. It would only find the CD-Rom. ( both are on different IDE channels ) after it would search for a boot record on the CD-Rom, it would say "insert system disk" I would reboot ( warm boot ) and then it would find the drive, but it would take a very long time ( 60 sec or so ). I thought I fried the mobo or something, so I put the moxtor back in it, but it found that in about 3 seconds.

It could be something with WD hard drives and the KK266 Motherboard if that is what you have, or it might be that we both got bad drives.

P.S. This computer still has that WD 60 in it, I am too lazy / cheap to change it out. I just never cold start it unless the power goes out. Hope this explanation helps ya.