My boss is on the Subway diet

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mrchan

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...
 

mrchan

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: trmiv
Wait, he was 5'10" 190 before he started. Now he's lost 45 pounds? Does he look like a microphone stand now? 145 seems a little light for 5'10", if you have any muscle on your body at all.
I'm 5'9" and weigh 135 lbs. :eek:


wow. you must be like those cartoon characters that hide behind street lights, hehe. i'm 5' 7" and 175 lbs.... no one would call me overweight either...
You're overweight!



sniff sniff, skoorb hurt my feelings!
 

Originally posted by: mrchan
He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...
Like I said, he may well be exercising...but he's my boss, I don't follow him home or anything.

Something must be working if he's lost 45 lbs. in four months.
 

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Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...
But calorie deficit + little protein (the processed meat is crap) + not doing weights = say bye bye.

 

trmiv

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: trmiv
Wait, he was 5'10" 190 before he started. Now he's lost 45 pounds? Does he look like a microphone stand now? 145 seems a little light for 5'10", if you have any muscle on your body at all.
I'm 5'9" and weigh 135 lbs. :eek:



Man, that's skinny. When I was 16 I was 145, and I look at pics now I look like a toothpick.
 

mrchan

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...
But calorie deficit + little protein (the processed meat is crap) + not doing weights = say bye bye.

If he is active, that will bump up his metabolism and make up for some of it. Really depends on his lifestyle and what else, if anything, he is doing to lose weight. The only way to lose weight is with a calorie deficit and using more calories than you consume, inherently that will decrease his metabolism, but there isn't much he can do about it. Plus, he's probably 30+ years old in which case his metabolism is decreasing anyway, heh.
 

RagingBITCH

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I did that last year after I finished bulking up. Lost 10lbs but my sodium intake was like 2x what it should have been daily, making my blood pressure abnormally high. Once I got off of it a month later I was fine.

If you want to lose weight, eat less and work out. Simple as that.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
If you want to lose weight, eat less and work out. Simple as that.

Sorry, but it's not that simple. Some people are just born fat and have no will power to stop eating.
 

Landroval

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If he was really fat, and eating a Subway at lunch is appealing to him, then it's a great idea.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...


If he overdoes his exercise that his body goes into significant calorie deprivation, he will surely ah heck up his metabolism. If the body perceives starvation, it will rid itself of whatever is more costly (in terms of calories) to maintain - and that is muscle tissue. He'll lose fat, but he will also lose muscle tissue as well. Now, here's the bad part. For every pound of muscle tissue lost, the body will downregulate metabolism even more to compensate. Now when the dieter returns to "normal" eating - which over 90% of dieters eventually do - he will regain the fat he lost very quickly, however, the muscle tissue he sacraficed may never return, thus his metabolic setpoint will be at a lower level then before he started his diet. If he repeats this diet, the cycle also repeats, the metabolic rate is lowered once again, and voilla, back at square one with an even worse metabolism. This is classic yo-yo dieting. Bottom line: Eat 4-6 nutritious meals with protein and carbohydrates (non processes), drink plenty of water and get a moderate amount of exercise 3-5 times/week. Only a lifestyle change will be permanant. Diets are only temporary.

There's a couple of "yo-yo" dieters at the gym where I work out. They're on and off diets all year long. Fat one minute, less fat the other... Because they have ruined their metabolisms, every time they go off a diet and return to eating normally, they put back on every pound they lost, plus an extra 5 or so pounds. Year after year, their metabolism gets slower and slower, and they become fatter and fatter - yet they constantly diet to lose weight - and they do - but it always comes back on.
 

mrchan

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...


If he overdoes his exercise that his body goes into significant calorie deprivation, he will surely ah heck up his metabolism. If the body perceives starvation, it will rid itself of whatever is more costly (in terms of calories) to maintain - and that is muscle tissue. He'll lose fat, but he will also lose muscle tissue as well. Now, here's the bad part. For every pound of muscle tissue lost, the body will downregulate metabolism even more to compensate. Now when the dieter returns to "normal" eating - which over 90% of dieters eventually do - he will regain the fat he lost very quickly, however, the muscle tissue he sacraficed may never return, thus his metabolic setpoint will be at a lower level then before he started his diet. If he repeats this diet, the cycle also repeats, the metabolic rate is lowered once again, and voilla, back at square one with an even worse metabolism. This is classic yo-yo dieting. Bottom line: Eat 4-6 nutritious meals with protein and carbohydrates (non processes), drink plenty of water and get a moderate amount of exercise 3-5 times/week. Only a lifestyle change will be permanant. Diets are only temporary.


He's on the SUBWAY DIET, do you really think that is the type of person to over exercise? :)
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
If you want to lose weight, eat less and work out. Simple as that.

Sorry, but it's not that simple. Some people are just born fat and have no will power to stop eating.

Then that's their fault they have no will power to get skinnier. No one is forcing them to be a fat ass. I'd be a tubby asian if I didn't eat right and work out - I can see the difference in one week of not working out and not eating right. (Weeks on a break) I'd literally be obese if I didn't work out and eat right.

Everyone has a choice in life about who they want to be or what they want to be. It's their choice if they want to go for it.

And yes, I understand there are different body types and some people are naturally bigger - to say they can't make a difference in themselves and change themselves if they really tried is bullsh!t though.
 

erikistired

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it's amazing how many health experts are on this forum.

"hey guys i'm trying to do something about my weight by doing xxx diet."

"what? xxx diet is for fat slugs! get a clue, do yyy diet!"

"but this is working for me, i'm feeling great and looking much better."

"rawr if you don't do zzz diet and do this and that you're a loser, you're going to fail."

"gee thanks for the support assholes."
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...


If he overdoes his exercise that his body goes into significant calorie deprivation, he will surely ah heck up his metabolism. If the body perceives starvation, it will rid itself of whatever is more costly (in terms of calories) to maintain - and that is muscle tissue. He'll lose fat, but he will also lose muscle tissue as well. Now, here's the bad part. For every pound of muscle tissue lost, the body will downregulate metabolism even more to compensate. Now when the dieter returns to "normal" eating - which over 90% of dieters eventually do - he will regain the fat he lost very quickly, however, the muscle tissue he sacraficed may never return, thus his metabolic setpoint will be at a lower level then before he started his diet. If he repeats this diet, the cycle also repeats, the metabolic rate is lowered once again, and voilla, back at square one with an even worse metabolism. This is classic yo-yo dieting. Bottom line: Eat 4-6 nutritious meals with protein and carbohydrates (non processes), drink plenty of water and get a moderate amount of exercise 3-5 times/week. Only a lifestyle change will be permanant. Diets are only temporary.


He's on the SUBWAY DIET, do you really think that is the type of person to over exercise? :)

I've seen many people do it. They look at the scale and see results in the terms of weightloss and figure that if 20 minutes on the exercise bike helped, why not increase it to an hour for 3 times the weightloss. Meanwhile, they still eat like a bird. You could pull off an hour on the bike if you are eating enough calories to compensate, but if you're say a 240lb guy who is eating less then 1000 calories a day, and doing a hour of cardio, you will most definitely sacrifice muscle tissue. Sad thing is, people rely on scale weight, thus think they lost only fat, when in fact is they lost a good chunk of muscle as well.

 

mrchan

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: mrchan
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH, I can't help it.

He'll lose weight and castrate his metabolism in the meantime, plus still be 100% clueless on how to eat properly. End result is he will balloon up as most people do and have even less lean mass than before.

His metabolism won't take THAT much of a hit if he's eating regular and eating decent sized portions, which a sub, soup and chips would qualify as.

He needs to get some exercise though, even a 20-30 min walk would do him lots of good...


If he overdoes his exercise that his body goes into significant calorie deprivation, he will surely ah heck up his metabolism. If the body perceives starvation, it will rid itself of whatever is more costly (in terms of calories) to maintain - and that is muscle tissue. He'll lose fat, but he will also lose muscle tissue as well. Now, here's the bad part. For every pound of muscle tissue lost, the body will downregulate metabolism even more to compensate. Now when the dieter returns to "normal" eating - which over 90% of dieters eventually do - he will regain the fat he lost very quickly, however, the muscle tissue he sacraficed may never return, thus his metabolic setpoint will be at a lower level then before he started his diet. If he repeats this diet, the cycle also repeats, the metabolic rate is lowered once again, and voilla, back at square one with an even worse metabolism. This is classic yo-yo dieting. Bottom line: Eat 4-6 nutritious meals with protein and carbohydrates (non processes), drink plenty of water and get a moderate amount of exercise 3-5 times/week. Only a lifestyle change will be permanant. Diets are only temporary.


He's on the SUBWAY DIET, do you really think that is the type of person to over exercise? :)

I've seen many people do it. They look at the scale and see results in the terms of weightloss and figure that if 20 minutes on the exercise bike helped, why not increase it to an hour for 3 times the weightloss. Meanwhile, they still eat like a bird. You could pull off an hour on the bike if you are eating enough calories to compensate, but if you're say a 240lb guy who is eating less then 1000 calories a day, and doing a hour of cardio, you will most definitely sacrifice muscle tissue. Sad thing is, people rely on scale weight, thus think they lost only fat, when in fact is they lost a good chunk of muscle as well.



That's true. But if he were doing that he'd only last like a week before he had no energy whatsoever.

 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Rudee
I've seen many people do it. They look at the scale and see results in the terms of weightloss and figure that if 20 minutes on the exercise bike helped, why not increase it to an hour for 3 times the weightloss. Meanwhile, they still eat like a bird. You could pull off an hour on the bike if you are eating enough calories to compensate, but if you're say a 240lb guy who is eating less then 1000 calories a day, and doing a hour of cardio, you will most definitely sacrifice muscle tissue. Sad thing is, people rely on scale weight, thus think they lost only fat, when in fact is they lost a good chunk of muscle as well.
I wanted to lose weight so I amputated both of my legs at the knees.

It worked for me! :)