Dismal:
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after all these years of defending religion and what not, i'm starting to change. i've already thrown out organized religion out as a bunch of crap, although I still believe in God, but i think I only believe because of fear. I suppose that's how it's always been (belief of fear).
do you believe out of fear or what?
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No, my internal knowledge does not have any belief structures anymore. I, or rather my mind operates on a different level. A co-processor (Mindfulness) , to the super-ego that I have learnt to develop, catches the subtleties of thoughts and actions. It will always tell me if I wavered off. That is if I pondered and started to believe the possibilities of whatever (ie: aliens, God, shadow governments), it'll pull me back to a neutral alignment. Or suddenly a rush of irrational emotions (virus cells
) like fear and anger arises, it [like an anti-body] envelops these emotions; traces the paths to source; I will be aware of what the issue or problem is; I let these emotions relinquish itselves.
Mindfulness is considered "detached awareness" of self. There are like 4 levels of this awareness in jhanas (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I know that's a mouthful, but it's the best I can describe the formation and contructs of Buddhist psychology and how my awareness operates.
And as to your fear... Your reason could be just a self-manifestation of a deep-seated issue in the subconscious, which you have not delt with properly in your
current life. Afterall, the root of our all our emotional stratas is the primal instincts (in the master-ego) of Love and Fear... So to speak.
Hotchic:
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Silverpig, that's where I get to trust in God's justice. Since I believe in a perfect God, that's not hard to do for me.
Side note: An Episcopalian priest I once knew had the theory that people who never had the chance to hear about God went neither to heaven or hell, instead it was "as if they never were."
Something I'm admittedly not qualified to comment on because all I can offer are my personal views, which are proof of nothing. >>
To believe in the Ultimate Truth that is non-existent? Scary. ..And displacing your denial to see life's injustices for what it is.
...So where do these people go? That theory is incomplete and lacks understanding of other phenomological systems on past lives (clinical hynotherapy, tibetan); samsara (theravadin); and bardo (tibetan).
Anyways.. Since the theme of this thread is about beliefs, here are my last thoughts on them.
Beliefs belong on a hierachy like Maslow's, except I modified it:
1. Self-realization
2. Insight, Wisdom
3. Acknowledgment
4. Beliefs
Yep, it's the lowest, right at the bottom of the
conical structure. Self-realization is the highest of illumination.
The first symbolic meaning in this is:
1. The bottom base level (beliefs) is the
heaviest of the cone. Heavy means weight. Weight is like density that can weigh a seeker down. the thicker the mass (of beliefs) becomes, the harder it is for the seeker to see with clarity.
2. Acknowledgment is where the seeker slowly relinquishes his/her beliefs, deconstruct (unfetter) its bindings and inflexible paradigms. Here, the person can become aware the ephemeral qualities of beliefs; gain understanding of how our mind functions (ie: ego / super-ego (Freud), duality (Tibetan)); and why we try to self-create internal realities to propagate in the external reality; illusions.
3. Here, the conceptualizations of the previous are realized. This is the sphere of self-actualization. Experience is gained through integrating new external knowledge. A broader perspective on humanity is achieved through practice, inflections, and self-discipline. The person's attitudes will be more light-hearted, compassionate, and loving. He/she moves with the flow of his/her emotional layers with forbearance and acceptance. Becoming anchored in the present moment, the beauty of life becomes alive as if for the first time..
4. The top represents the
lightest of mass, the smallest point of energy. Singuarly densed and translucent -- unfettered from all karmic patterns, the mind is luminous. The "bliss of Clear Light" as Tibetan masters call it. The seeker finally ends his/her own strifes, becomes unshakable and enligthened. The transformation of
Peace is achieved.
The second symbolic meaning is about brainwave frequencies:
Generally, the bottom is the
slowest and
largest of waveforms, the top is the
fastest and
smallest of waveforms. Basically, from bottom to top, the mind is processing quicker, more agile and more reflexive. The brainwaves are being altered permanently to reflect progression through the hierachy.
The third symbolic meaning is materialism and self-possessives:
the bottom presents possessions, the needs and desires [large areas / spacing] of the master-ego. The subconscious impulse to cling and get attached. Beliefs has all of those qualities --
immaterial it is -- but
so so real to the mind.
As one nears the top, such possessions and needs diminishes. If the person needs less, he / she becomes
lighter in spirit, not held down by the
mass of materialistic compulsions.
**Travelling from bottom to top, the
area [=possessions] of the conical structure becomes
less, that's the idea behind it.
The fourth symbolic meaning is ego super-imposition of self:
The bottom is dark indivisble mass, resides the nature of the master-ego -- unobservable. As the seeker progresses up the cone, its nature becomes indirectly observable through one's thoughts and behaviors. It's like a shadow receding as light illuminates into it. As one reaches the top, the master-ego goes *poof*, extinguished.
You can picture the master-ego climbing the cone like a circle slowly being engulfed by
mindfulness [super-ego's co-processor] -- either from the outside, or starting from the middle.
That's how the visualizations appears from the top level pulling down as the bottom level gets pushed up:
Looking from the top [cone]. The spread starts from the middle of the circle [cone].
Looking from the bottom [cone]. The spread starts from the outside of the cirlce[cone].
So what do you have left? The dominance of the super-ego and its co-processor
at the top and bottom stratas.
HOOKAY, that's enough of me jibbering, probably fried some people's brain cells now..
Sky.. l.. l agh
EDIT: Argh 
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