My behemoth PC needs a challenge

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Jacky60

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And there we go again with the 60 hz myth.

Do this (on your 60 hz LCD monitor I presume). Move the mouse cursor back and forth in a line slowly. Now increase the speed, finally moving it back and forth as quickly as you can.

Notice how the mouse suddenly seems to start 'teleporting' with gaps where it isn't being rendered? Congratulations, if you notice gaps in the line where the mouse wasn't rendered you're "seeing" at higher than 60 fps. If you have a higher frame rate capable monitor (e.g, a 120 hz crt) try the same experiment and you'll have to go much, much faster before you notice the gaps.

TL;DR human eyeballs don't have a refresh cycle, and 16ms is a long, long time even when it comes to biological sensors like our eyeballs.

I'm convinced a 120Mhz monitor is next on my list!:)
 

Aikouka

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Whoa. That's a NICE monitor. Running an LCD monitor at a non-native resolution will not provide you with optimum image quality. You'll notice thing on screen can appear fuzzy or non-distinct. But even if you are running at a non-native res, the image should still take up the whole screen. There shouldn't be any black space around the image, like when you view an app windowed vs. full screen.

Shouldn't there be black bars if he's running at a non-native ratio though? A monitor set to display 16:9 pixels cannot properly map 16:12 (4:3) unless it stretches the picture in one dimension more so than the other.
 

nanaki333

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For one, yes, I am an AMD fan. For two, this computer will keep me satisfied for a while as I have no specific desire to upgrade in the next two years. I didn't pay a whole lot for my MoBo, but it has what I wanted: USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0

As far as bad investment, no computer is an investment becasue an investment implies you will make money off of it by selling it in the future.
As far as resolution goes for an LCD, you didn't look hard enough. Here is a link :D
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=689880&Q=&is=REG&A=details
By the way, this is supposed to be a helpful forum and out of everything you just said, the only helpful thing is the last part. So thank you

not entirely true on the investment part. radeon 58xx series cards are becoming quite popular in the distributed computing area. some people that bought their used 58xx cards a few months back can probably sell them for more than they bought them for now :)
 

howerj

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not entirely true on the investment part. radeon 58xx series cards are becoming quite popular in the distributed computing area. some people that bought their used 58xx cards a few months back can probably sell them for more than they bought them for now :)

That may be true, but I didn't buy my computer with the word "investment" in mind. I bought it to use it, not to turn a profit, but I do understand where you are coming from.
 

MichaelD

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Good question, Aikouka...I honestly am not sure. The very rare times I've ever run my monitor (1920x1200 native) at non-native res, it was at another 16:10 or 16:9 res and the image filled the whole screen. :/ I'm not sure in his case though.
 

Aikouka

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Good question, Aikouka...I honestly am not sure. The very rare times I've ever run my monitor (1920x1200 native) at non-native res, it was at another 16:10 or 16:9 res and the image filled the whole screen. :/ I'm not sure in his case though.

I think it might depend on the monitor's programming I guess. I'll see what happens when I mess with my 1920x1200 (16:10) monitor tonight.

Getting off onto a monitor tangent... I hate how hard it is to find a monitor with good adjustment capability :\. All companies provide is tilt, but rarely height.
 

howerj

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Either way, my question has been answered and this thread was supposed to be about software, not hardware. Thank you for everyone who actually mentioned a game to try.
 

chihlidog

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Couple things.

1) As mentioned, that computer is not a "behemoth". It's a decent rig overall, but let's be realistic here. You wont find this forum posting in awe of your beastly setup. If you wanna have a dick measuring contest, my outdated rig will trade blows with yours very easily and run faster most of the time.

2) Go try FSX. Crank everything up. Report back.
 

alcoholbob

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Does that NEC monitor have transformer hum? I had two of the NEC 26" HIPS screens before I just sold them because the noise was infuriating.
 

pcm81

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My Mammoth needs a challenge too; any suggestions?

See my sig for specs.

@OP,
if you want a game, not resolution, to stress your PC; play a chess game and max out the search depth....
 
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chihlidog

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My Mammoth needs a challenge too; any suggestions?

See my sig for specs.

@OP,
if you want a game, not resolution, to stress your PC; play a chess game and max out the search depth....

See, if you wanna come into a thread and throwdown specs, THIS is how you do it. Killer rig.
 

x1222

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Geez, seems like a lot of you guys are getting offended by him simply saying his comp is good. For him he think it is a behemoth computer and it is his dream computer. He's just excited and happy he got it. Chill guys.
 

MangoX

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There's a difference... he's a new member and waltz into VC&G with his post... no wonder some people are offended. This thread is pure comedy only because OP embarrassed himself.
 

nanaki333

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That may be true, but I didn't buy my computer with the word "investment" in mind. I bought it to use it, not to turn a profit, but I do understand where you are coming from.

yeah. i was just trying to be a smartass :)
 

Dark Shroud

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First off monitors, the not so common resolution monitor in my specs, when I play a Blu-ray video I get no black bars. It completely fills the screen and looks amazing.

Now then onto power supplies; to anyone who thinks a PSU is over kill, there is no such thing. I've had to deal with the results of many burned out PSUs. In one case I watched an OEM PSU blow fire 2 inches out of the back when I turned it on.

That's because we have some skewed views on how much power you actually need to run a graphics card :p.

The amusing thing is, we've completely gotten away from the remarks that you would have heard when I started building PCs (about 8 years ago). I remember people talking more about the quality of the 12V rail to ensure enough wattage is available for the GPU. These days, people wouldn't realize if they had a 12V 5A rail in a 1000W PSU, the thing wouldn't power a GPU if its life depended on it... although, I'd hate to see how many amps were in the 3.3V and 5V rail if only 60W were being used by the 12V :biggrin:.

I also remember when PSUs got on the dual-12V rail bandwagon and then shifted back to the single beefy 12V rail :p.

The computer build threads still talk about this when helping someone pick out parts. I was actually looking at this PSU for my Bitcoin mining rig because it has four 12v rails each running at 36amps. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152044
 

daveybrat

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OP's system is not really that bad......but......why on earth would you build such a fast pc and only use a Green 5900RPM hard drive??

That will make your whole pc seem just sluggish opening things. You really should have gone with a Western Digital Black Edition hard drive or SSD for really snappy performance.
 

ultimatebob

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Heh... try mining bitcoins or running Furmark on it for a few hours, just to see if the power supply holds up.
 

Lonbjerg

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I just finished building my dream computer and I was wondering if there are any games yall can think of that will challenge my system. My graphics card is the second most powerful ATI graphics card to date and I'm having trouble finding a game that i can wield against my GPU. Here are my system specs.
Oh, and I have heard people say to try Crysis 2, but I know I can already play that at full graphics settings just fine. I'm not asking about what monitors or resolutions will bring my computer to it's knees, I'm talking about games. Thanks

OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

CPU - AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz

Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H AM3 AMD 880G

Memory - Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866

Graphics Card - MSI R6970 Lightning Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5

PSU - Rosewill LIGHTNING Series LIGHTNING-1000 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V

Case - Rosewill ARMOR Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Cooling - CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid

Hard Drives - Seagate Barracuda Green ST1500DL003 1.5TB 5900 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s

ARMA II will point fingers and laugh at your system.

BTW for gaming a X4 is better than an X6...look it up.
 

mazeroth

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Let your lady-boy PC have a go at Arma 2 and or Operation Arrowhead. It will burst into tears and run crying home to mom! Go on try it-I dare you, I double dare you! Also once your pc has stopped bending over be advised the 5970 kicks the 6970's ass so you have the 3rd fastest ATI card NOT the 2nd.

Says the man running $1400 in video cards on a $299 monitor:

2 x6990 at 880
Hanns.G 28in Monitor

You guys need to cut this guy some slack. He has a very nice computer. Probably nicer than 99.9% of computers out there.
 

skipsneeky2

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ARMA II will point fingers and laugh at your system.

BTW for gaming a X4 is better than an X6...look it up.

Some used to say the e8400 was better then the q6600 for gaming:hmm:
Now most games benefit from the power of a quad core, bc2 especially

Think anyone who picked a 6 core today wont be regretting it in 3 years?

Doubt it:p
 

Lonbjerg

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Some used to say the e8400 was better then the q6600 for gaming:hmm:
Now most games benefit from the power of a quad core, bc2 especially

Think anyone who picked a 6 core today wont be regretting it in 3 years?

Doubt it:p

In 3 years that CPU will look dated, so who cares...again a X6 is worse for gaming than an X¤, like it or not.
 

pw38

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Some used to say the e8400 was better then the q6600 for gaming:hmm:
Now most games benefit from the power of a quad core, bc2 especially

Think anyone who picked a 6 core today wont be regretting it in 3 years?

Doubt it:p

3 years? Buy a new CPU by then if it's that big a deal. I think my system is pretty decent but I wouldn't call it a "behemoth" or any such nonsense. For an AMD fan it does what I want it to do and quite fast too.