My behemoth PC needs a challenge

[bunnyfubbles]

Nope. B/C I also have a future-proof 1Kw PSU in my box. It was in my Dual-Xeon, 10 SATA HD video editing box until the PSU in my gaming rig died about a year ago. Can never go wrong with too big of a PSU...it's like guns. Bigger is better. That's the only thing he got right in that rig. 😉

AFA your meager 400MHz overclock over MY even more meager overclock...um...congratulations, you suck. 😉 I don't have the time anymore to fiddle for hours on end to get the last few MHz out of a CPU. I try some established settings right off the bat. If they hold, I leave it that way. Be in awe of my modest overclock!!!!

there's also the fact that most PSU's run most efficiently around 50% load capacity so if you're running the rig under such conditions it can benefit from that

it also helps to have an overkill PSU to mitigate noise as many higher end PSU's ramp up their fan speed with % usage so if you're only using a fraction the fan is going to be spinning very slowly, if at all (such as in the case of the SeaSonic X Series)

granted, that's a major benefit of the doubt, the vast majority of people buying "overkill" power supplies do so out of ignorance rather than going in knowing they don't need that much power and knowing of the practical purposes for going "overkill"

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Metro 2033 at max settings.

OT:

I would advise you come down that cloud, though. The only good component in your PC is the graphics card.

 

[3DVagabond]

It's amazing how varied opinions can be on PSU's. I've seen threads where someone asks if their 650W PSU is enough to run their Crossfired/SLI _____ (fill in the blank). Someone says, they wouldn't do it. It should have 750W to be safe. Next post is by someone who has the same setup, everything O/C'd with a 500W PSU, and it's fine. LOL

That said, I think the OP was speaking a bit tongue in cheek. Just like you guys about your core 2 quads. If not then what started as one person waving his e-peen around has turned into a full fledged circle jerk 😛

Anyway, very entertaining. So, carry on, gents. 🙂

 

[Jacky60]

Let your lady-boy PC have a go at Arma 2 and or Operation Arrowhead. It will burst into tears and run crying home to mom! Go on try it-I dare you, I double dare you! Also once your pc has stopped bending over be advised the 5970 kicks the 6970's ass so you have the 3rd fastest ATI card NOT the 2nd.

 

[howerj]

Thank you for all your responses, even if some are rather demeaning >.>
To answer a few questions, I am not some 12 year old, I'm a 21 year old computer tech. I admit I am just entering into my career, but I'm not stupid.
And yes, I do have an SSD running my OS and applications. I use my Hard Drive for Data.
My PSU isn't overkill because I need it if I plan to do any remodels in the future.
By my dream PC I mean that this is the PC I've always wanted.
As far as ignorance goes for resolution, that is not true. I understand pixels and how that related to a graphics card. My point is that I am not planning on using or going out and buying a super high resolution monitor when my LCD works fine. I want the game to challenge my card, not the resolution.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

You really think so? I'm still getting my computer stable. Then I'm going to overclock the Beejezus out of it. Between my 7 case fans, including a 120mm fan, and my liquid cooling, the plan is to have 6 cores running at around 5Ghz. I also failed to mention that my OS and Applications are running on a SSD. Mix that with my OCed memory and you have one of the fastest PCs you'll see these days. Of course you can't use that many cores gaming, but when I start OCing my already stock Overclocked GPU, it'll be amazing

Of course I don't really think so, the joke was carried over after one person took it serious and I said my mouse is terrific.

 

[Aikouka]

It's amazing how varied opinions can be on PSU's. I've seen threads where someone asks if their 650W PSU is enough to run their Crossfired/SLI _____ (fill in the blank). Someone says, they wouldn't do it. It should have 750W to be safe. Next post is by someone who has the same setup, everything O/C'd with a 500W PSU, and it's fine. LOL

That's because we have some skewed views on how much power you actually need to run a graphics card 😛.

The amusing thing is, we've completely gotten away from the remarks that you would have heard when I started building PCs (about 8 years ago). I remember people talking more about the quality of the 12V rail to ensure enough wattage is available for the GPU. These days, people wouldn't realize if they had a 12V 5A rail in a 1000W PSU, the thing wouldn't power a GPU if its life depended on it... although, I'd hate to see how many amps were in the 3.3V and 5V rail if only 60W were being used by the 12V :biggrin:.

I also remember when PSUs got on the dual-12V rail bandwagon and then shifted back to the single beefy 12V rail 😛.

 

[busydude]

I want the game to challenge my card, not the resolution.

Dear Sir/Madam:

Your request cannot be fulfilled unless you provide the resolution you are playing games at.

Thanks,

AT VC&G

 

[howerj]

I am running my resolution at 1920/1440. I did do a benchmark the other day and my graphics card was stable at 130 fps. Of course, that is pointless since the human eye can only see round 60fps, but it was fun to check out.

 

[v8envy]

And there we go again with the 60 hz myth.

Do this (on your 60 hz LCD monitor I presume). Move the mouse cursor back and forth in a line slowly. Now increase the speed, finally moving it back and forth as quickly as you can.

Notice how the mouse suddenly seems to start 'teleporting' with gaps where it isn't being rendered? Congratulations, if you notice gaps in the line where the mouse wasn't rendered you're "seeing" at higher than 60 fps. If you have a higher frame rate capable monitor (e.g, a 120 hz crt) try the same experiment and you'll have to go much, much faster before you notice the gaps.

TL;DR human eyeballs don't have a refresh cycle, and 16ms is a long, long time even when it comes to biological sensors like our eyeballs.

 

[busydude]

And there we go again with the 60 hz myth.

Your explanation is not convincing.

 

[MustangSVT]

Thank you for all your responses, even if some are rather demeaning >.>
To answer a few questions, I am not some 12 year old, I'm a 21 year old computer tech. I admit I am just entering into my career, but I'm not stupid.
And yes, I do have an SSD running my OS and applications. I use my Hard Drive for Data.
My PSU isn't overkill because I need it if I plan to do any remodels in the future.
By my dream PC I mean that this is the PC I've always wanted.
As far as ignorance goes for resolution, that is not true. I understand pixels and how that related to a graphics card. My point is that I am not planning on using or going out and buying a super high resolution monitor when my LCD works fine. I want the game to challenge my card, not the resolution.

A computer tech? what kind of work do you do? 😱

 

[MichaelD]

Dear Sir/Madam:

Your request cannot be fulfilled unless you provide the resolution you are playing games at.

Thanks,

AT VC&G

Absolutely! Why doesn't the OP understand this? /facepalm At 800x600 you can get a bazillion FPS in Crisis but at 1900x1200 for example, it would be a very different story. Side note: If you want to be a successful computer technician you need to have a more in-depth understanding of how all the parts work AND interact with each other. I.E. $500 video card paired with a $20 CPU and 256MB of system memory isn't going to be a fantastic gaming box.

 

[howerj]

A computer tech? what kind of work do you do? 😱

I work at a local hospital as a member of the MIS team. We all have our own specialties, but I'm mostly hardware based

 

[howerj]

Absolutely! Why doesn't the OP understand this? /facepalm At 800x600 you can get a bazillion FPS in Crisis but at 1900x1200 for example, it would be a very different story. Side note: If you want to be a successful computer technician you need to have a more in-depth understanding of how all the parts work AND interact with each other. I.E. $500 video card paired with a $20 CPU and 256MB of system memory isn't going to be a fantastic gaming box.

As I said, I'm not stupid, nor ignorant. I actually have a $300 graphics card, a $200 CPU and 8GB of overclocked DDR3 memory:awe:

 

[busydude]

As I said, I'm not stupid, nor ignorant. I actually have a $300 graphics card, a $200 CPU and 8GB of overclocked DDR3 memory

I am sorry to say, but unless you are an AMD fanboy.. a knowledgeable person will not buy a $200 AMD CPU as a $200 Intel SB CPU mops the floor with it.

Also, why did you invest so much on an AMD setup when in a month or so.. AMD is releasing a brand new architecture and a new socket. Your motherboard is not even AM3+ ready.

I am really sorry, but you just made a bad investment.

Also, are you using a CRT? because I am not able to find an LCD monitor at your specified resolution.

To answer your question, The Witcher 2 with ubersampling ON.

 

[Blue Shift]

I just finished building my dream computer and I was wondering if there are any games yall can think of that will challenge my system.

What games did you have in mind when you were building it? Surely you built this rig for a reason, right?

 

[howerj]

I am sorry to say, but unless you are an AMD fanboy.. a knowledgeable person will not buy a $200 AMD CPU as a $200 Intel SB CPU mops the floor with it.

Also, why did you invest so much on an AMD setup when in a month or so.. AMD is releasing a brand new architecture and a new socket. Your motherboard is not even AM3+ ready.

I am really sorry, but you just made a bad investment.

Also, are you using a CRT? because I am not able to find an LCD monitor at your specified resolution.

To answer your question, The Witcher 2 with ubersampling ON.

For one, yes, I am an AMD fan. For two, this computer will keep me satisfied for a while as I have no specific desire to upgrade in the next two years. I didn't pay a whole lot for my MoBo, but it has what I wanted: USB 3.0 and SATA 3.0

As far as bad investment, no computer is an investment becasue an investment implies you will make money off of it by selling it in the future.
As far as resolution goes for an LCD, you didn't look hard enough. Here is a link 😀
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=689880&Q=&is=REG&A=details
By the way, this is supposed to be a helpful forum and out of everything you just said, the only helpful thing is the last part. So thank you

 

[Tempered81]

He needed it rough...like my ex-wife. Wasn't understanding the heirarchy of things without a good spanking. 😉

He's 12, I get it. HE needs to get it though. It's our job to grow new hardware geeks. I mean, who will lead the charge of trying a new MB/memory/GPU every 6 months when I'm gone? Maybe this new kid! He's got the spirit. Well, I can see him 10 years down the road with a nitrogen chimney on top of his CPU, overclocking it to 13.23232GHz, if only for a minute and right before it smokes he scores 456,456 in 3DMark 2021 WITH 5x CPU Fargongle enabled AND 91.2 (not 91.1!) Unexplainable AntiAliasing enabled!!

hahah

 

[howerj]

What games did you have in mind when you were building it? Surely you built this rig for a reason, right?

When I built it, I had Crysis and Brink in mind, but I realize afterward that it was rather overpowered for those games. So far, the Witcher II looks like a good candidate for my computer.
I am looking for games that when you play it you just go 😱 at how amazing it looks!

 

[busydude]

As far as resolution goes for an LCD, you didn't look hard enough. Here is a link

WTF, you said 1920/1440.. and yet your link says 2560 x 1440.

 

[Aikouka]

As far as ignorance goes for resolution, that is not true. I understand pixels and how that related to a graphics card. My point is that I am not planning on using or going out and buying a super high resolution monitor when my LCD works fine. I want the game to challenge my card, not the resolution.

Well, the reason why I still brought up resolution very early on in this thread is that while I would not attempt to suggest you buy a bigger monitor (because that's not what you asked for), we would need the information to get an idea as to what could tax your computer enough.

I do find it odd that you own a 4:3 monitor though... I didn't think they made those in such a large resolution anymore 😱.

As far as resolution goes for an LCD, you didn't look hard enough. Here is a link 😀
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=689880&Q=&is=REG&A=details

That's 16:9, not 4:3.

 

[MichaelD]

This is a very helpful forum but sometimes it's tough love. 😉 There's nothing wrong w/AMD CPUs. I've run many different AMD CPUs in rigs over the years. It's just that right now Intel's i-series processors are it right now, performance wise. For everyday computing and non-enthusiast gaming, a newer AMD quad-core of 3+GHz will do just fine. But when you get into editing video, 3D apps/design and high-res/detail gaming AMD just can't compete w/what Intel's got out right now.

 

[howerj]

Well, the reason why I still brought up resolution very early on in this thread is that while I would not attempt to suggest you buy a bigger monitor (because that's not what you asked for), we would need the information to get an idea as to what could tax your computer enough.

I do find it odd that you own a 4:3 monitor though... I didn't think they made those in such a large resolution anymore 😱.



That's 16:9, not 4:3.

Because I sacrifice monitor space for high resolution. I have black spots where my monitor is not being used at the sacrifice of resolution. I admit I am not a resolution guru, but I know how they work. If someone wants to explain to me a better way to have my resolution, I would appreciate it. I have it set to what it is because it looks good

 

[MichaelD]

Whoa. That's a NICE monitor. Running an LCD monitor at a non-native resolution will not provide you with optimum image quality. You'll notice thing on screen can appear fuzzy or non-distinct. But even if you are running at a non-native res, the image should still take up the whole screen. There shouldn't be any black space around the image, like when you view an app windowed vs. full screen.