My 3500+ Benchies!

[spencers]

Hey guys! I finally managed to grab some benchmarks of my new setup. Wondering about my scores though.. THEY SEEM LOW! Probably because of my video card, right? Let me know what you think, and what I could do to bring the scores up a bit.

Athlon 64 3500+ socket 939
Asus A8V Deluxe
Power Color Radeon 9800 Pro 380/680
2x256 OCZ PC3500 EB
120gb WD SE 8mb HD

3dmark03 - 5919
3dmark01 - 19574

Update: Overclocked Video card to 490/360
3dmark03 - 6332
3dmark01 - 20420

Sisoft Sandra
Memory - 4833/5773
CPU - 10097/ 3468/4522

These seem a little low! Then again, my video card aint too great.

Thanks! Don't forget to answer my questions, please.

 

[Sonic587]

Those results are pretty good for stock :thumbsup:

 

[Manzelle]

Originally posted by: spencers
Hey guys! I finally managed to grab some benchmarks of my new setup. Wondering about my scores though.. THEY SEEM LOW! Probably because of my video card, right? Let me know what you think, and what I could do to bring the scores up a bit.

Athlon 64 3500+ socket 939
Asus A8V Deluxe
Power Color Radeon 9800 Pro 380/680
2x256 OCZ PC3500 EB
120gb WD SE 8mb HD

3dmark03 - 5919
3dmark01 - 19574

These seem a little low! Then again, my video card aint too great.

Thanks! Don't forget to answer my questions, please.

Wow...I get 6700 in 3DMark03 and 20.1k in 3DMark01 and I run an AXP-M @ 2.665GHz and a 9800 Pro 441/792...your benches make me want to not upgrade my CPU/MB...

 

[lobadobadingdong]

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[spencers]

Originally posted by: Manzelle

Originally posted by: spencers
Hey guys! I finally managed to grab some benchmarks of my new setup. Wondering about my scores though.. THEY SEEM LOW! Probably because of my video card, right? Let me know what you think, and what I could do to bring the scores up a bit.

Athlon 64 3500+ socket 939
Asus A8V Deluxe
Power Color Radeon 9800 Pro 380/680
2x256 OCZ PC3500 EB
120gb WD SE 8mb HD

3dmark03 - 5919
3dmark01 - 19574

These seem a little low! Then again, my video card aint too great.

Thanks! Don't forget to answer my questions, please.

Wow...I get 6700 in 3DMark03 and 20.1k in 3DMark01 and I run an AXP-M @ 2.665GHz and a 9800 Pro 441/792...your benches make me want to not upgrade my CPU/MB...

I know!! But there's got to be something wrong with my scores...


Here's my Sisoft Sandra Scores

Memory - 4833/5773
CPU - 10097/ 3468/4522

 

[Mullzy]

If you were to OC your 9800 Pro you'd get around 6500 at least, if not 6700+.

My Sapphire 9800 Pro gets around 5800 at stock and 6500 when I OC it to 420/730 (My processor is a 2.8c @ 3.29). Yours should be able to beat those scores no problem.


EDIT: And you'll notice that Manzelle above breaks 6700 with a 9800 Pro oc'd even higher than mine. Your cards core/memory speeds are holding you back big time.

 

[spencers]

What's your suggestions as to figuring out if my overclocked settings are stable or not?

I was playing around earlier and I could only bump up the core from 380 to 390. Well, I had rthdribl open and the minute I went over 390, i'd get the little sparkles in the moving marble things.

 

[Manzelle]

Originally posted by: spencers

Originally posted by: Manzelle

Originally posted by: spencers

These seem a little low! Then again, my video card aint too great.

Thanks! Don't forget to answer my questions, please.

Wow...I get 6700 in 3DMark03 and 20.1k in 3DMark01 and I run an AXP-M @ 2.665GHz and a 9800 Pro 441/792...your benches make me want to not upgrade my CPU/MB...

I know!! But there's got to be something wrong with my scores...


Here's my Sisoft Sandra Scores

Memory - 4833/5773
CPU - 10097/ 3468/4522

Hmm...as you can see here...

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Manzelle/benches.JPG

My CPU beats yours according to Sandra but your memory scores kill mine...(1GB OCZ PC3700 EB)...I am running 205x13 but still...weird...
I guess I don't get 20.1k in 3DMark01 but rather 20.05k...

 

[Mullzy]

Originally posted by: spencers
What's your suggestions as to figuring out if my overclocked settings are stable or not?

I was playing around earlier and I could only bump up the core from 380 to 390. Well, I had rthdribl open and the minute I went over 390, i'd get the little sparkles in the moving marble things.

Hmm... that doesn't sound too good. ATiTool tells me my max OC is around 416 but I can't see any artifacts for myself while gaming at 420, so that's what I use. The fact that you can see artifacts below 400 makes it seem as though your card is not going to get much higher even with better cooling.

 

[spencers]

What cooling are you running on your card?

 

[Mullzy]

Sorry I should have mentioned... I'm using the stock cooler.

Picture of my card here: 9800 Pro @ NCIX.com


EDIT: Actually just noticed that is the 256MB version... my doesn't have RAM-sinks... but the GPU cooler is the same style/size.

 

[spencers]

Hmm... Rage3dtweak sucks

I downloaded ATITool and I'm running the core test. I'm well over 400 with stock cooling.

I'll post back with the results

 

[Mullzy]

Good luck... I've never used Rage3DTweak; only fiddled with ATITool and Radlinker. Let ATITool run for a bit and see where it decides you are stable. Mine will go up to around 425 and then start backing down as it encounters artifacts, settling in around 415 after 20 minutes or so.

 

[spencers]

406 core. AC is off right now. Heh
Memory didn't really go anywhere at all.

Suddenly that Zalman passive heatsink sounds like a good thing to buy now.

 

[Manzelle]

I can get mine up to about 450 before the artifacts start to appear with ATiTool...Doom3 doesn't like anything above 445 so I keep it at 441 just to be safe...

 

[spencers]

I want to know why in ATItool the little timer resets...

 

[Mullzy]

It resets that timer every time it finds an artifact... for example:

1) Increases Core speed while monitoring the spikey picture for artifacts
2) Goes through the Heating Up phase trying to get your core nice and toasty
3) Increases the core some more while looking for artifacts
4) Finds some articats! Oh nos!
5) Lowers the core speed a little and starts retiming

If you watch the core speed on the right you'll notice that it will keep getting lower until no artifacts are found. This can take 10-15 minutes (some people let it run for hours to be sure). You also have to test the core and memory separately.

 

[spencers]

Well, I just ran 3dmark01. 20243 marks. That's at 409/340 (680).

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8064885

 

[spencers]

Did some more testing and got to 409/360 (720)
20402 3dmarks in 3dmark01

I think I hit my wall in stock cooling huh?

 

[spencers]

Also, does anyone know a good overclocking utility for windows that would work with my Asus A8V and the socket 939 3500+ ?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: spencers

Originally posted by: Manzelle

Originally posted by: spencers
Hey guys! I finally managed to grab some benchmarks of my new setup. Wondering about my scores though.. THEY SEEM LOW! Probably because of my video card, right? Let me know what you think, and what I could do to bring the scores up a bit.

Athlon 64 3500+ socket 939
Asus A8V Deluxe
Power Color Radeon 9800 Pro 380/680
2x256 OCZ PC3500 EB
120gb WD SE 8mb HD

3dmark03 - 5919
3dmark01 - 19574

These seem a little low! Then again, my video card aint too great.

Thanks! Don't forget to answer my questions, please.

Wow...I get 6700 in 3DMark03 and 20.1k in 3DMark01 and I run an AXP-M @ 2.665GHz and a 9800 Pro 441/792...your benches make me want to not upgrade my CPU/MB...

I know!! But there's got to be something wrong with my scores...


Here's my Sisoft Sandra Scores

Memory - 4833/5773
CPU - 10097/ 3468/4522

There is nothing wrong with your scores.. he has 500Mhz more on processor....his same video card is highly overclocked compared yours.. he probably has tighter timings on ram...basically you need to tweak your setup like he, then you'll be blowing any XP system away. Too bad you have via..they ever get locks working with 939?

Edit: Ya I think he's running mem 2-2-2 because I'm clocked higher and score lower. Again mobile XP's need 500 more MHZ to equal your chip stock...Overclock that bad boy things will get ugly...

 

[spencers]

Yes. On the Asus A8V Revision 2 the locks actually work.

However, what the hell are locks and what are they good for?

 

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by: spencers
Yes. On the Asus A8V Revision 2 the locks actually work.

However, what the hell are locks and what are they good for?

These "locks" are on the AGP and PCI bus and allow you to overclock. Video cards, sound cards, modems, etc. cause the computer to become unstable when their busses are run too far out of spec, so manufacturers have developed a way to lock the AGP bus at 66 Mhz and PCI bus at 33 MHz. The AGP and PCI used to run as a fraction of the front side bus speed, so having a locked AGP and PCI bus has allowed much better overclocking in recent years. Intel was the first one to release this feature in their chipsets. I had an Epox KT333 AMD board a couple years ago that allowed me to selct the PCI divider as a fraction of FSB.

I remember back when AMD had their K6 series, and their chips ran on a 75 MHz bus speed so that could get an edge in over Intel who was running on 66 MHz at the time. But running the FSB at 75 meant they were also running the AGP at 75 and the PCI at 37.5, and so all the skeptics said "Don't buy it! Your AGP and PCI cards will be fried inside of a year!" Funny part is, I built one of those systems about 7 years ago and it is still going strong, just a little slower than it's contemporaries.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Benchmark envy will only drain your wallet. Your scores are within the normal range and shouldn't be a cause for concern. SiSuck is next to useless so don't rely on it as a performance indicator. You should consider also that to achieve high benchmark scores many people have their systems@unstable settings barely able to finish the bench. Then consider that a high 3DMock score is only obtained with "it looks like shiat" settings no one with a set-up as nice as your's should be using in-game

My point is stop bugging over SiSuck and 3DMock, but instead get to using it for real world gaming and computing tasks Don't get me wrong, it is OK to initially establish a baseline with synthetics for comparison, but don't let them lead you to turning off the eye candy and using unstable settings just for higher scores. If you want to know what your system is capable of and get a real performance indicator then try SETIbench, POVRAY, ScienceMark, or bench actual games@the settings you want to play with.

 

[spencers]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Benchmark envy will only drain your wallet. Your scores are within the normal range and shouldn't be a cause for concern. SiSuck is next to useless so don't rely on it as a performance indicator. You should consider also that to achieve high benchmark scores many people have their systems@unstable settings barely able to finish the bench. Then consider that a high 3DMock score is only obtained with "it looks like shiat" settings no one with a set-up as nice as your's should be using in-game

My point is stop bugging over SiSuck and 3DMock, but instead get to using it for real world gaming and computing tasks Don't get me wrong, it is OK to initially establish a baseline with synthetics for comparison, but don't let them lead you to turning off the eye candy and using unstable settings just for higher scores. If you want to know what your system is capable of and get a real performance indicator then try SETIbench, POVRAY, ScienceMark, or bench actual games@the settings you want to play with.

Oh no, I'm not concerned about being better than anyone, I'm just concerned about the fact that my scores seem only a little low.

So what's the best way to overclock a 939 CPU? I wish I could find a utility that would do it within windows, instead of the BIOS.