My 2nd day as a vegetarian (its not that bad)

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: HamSupLo
I don't think eating meat is the cause of your obesity.

Not entirely, I eat too much fast food and junk.

 

[vi edit]

Like Descartes said, you HAVE to break this out on a nutrition budget.

You need to figure out what your BMR to figure out a baseline for caloric needs.
Now plan out your daily meals so that your calories fall into that 40/40/20 (Carbs/Protein/Fat) like he guidelined.

You are shifting your calories into really bad areas and skimping on "good" ones. With all of the sauteed cooking and olive oil you are getting a huge number of calories and fat without receiving any benefits. If you are going to get fat, get it from better sources like dairy, eggs, and meats. Don't load it up from oils and butter that provide zero nutrition for the calories they provide.

I really don't know what the rice and fruit breaks down to, but I would hazzard a guess that it isn't enough for a proper balance.

You also have no leafy greens in there (spinach, field greens, brocolli, ect) as well as other berries to help provide other vitamins and minerals that you aren't getting.

The human body is designed to run on a balanced diet spread out across a variety of meats, carbs, fruits and veggies. Diary is bonus because it's fatty, but also provides great protien and calcium.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: Descartes
That diet is a mess. No offense, but you seriously should have planned this out rather than just grabbing random food items. You will lose weight, but if you keep that up you'll be losing a lot of muscle as well.

There's so many things to say that I don't really even know where to begin. I implore you to go to the bookstore and buy a book on nutrition and vegetarian diets. You're going to waste away if you keep eating like that.

Overall though, it's pretty simple: Find your BMR, find out what caloric deficit you require to lose weight (which could be coupled with exercise), and from that find the foods that get you to those calories. Balance the calories between protein, carbs and fat. A split of 40/40/20 might work for you, for example. Find a good nutrition book to tell you what a good source of those calories are and eat them. If you knew your BMR you wouldn't be scared of brown rice. Is it too much? Who knows, but if you break it down in your diet you should know without question. It's not a matter of opinion.

Sorry to come off a little harsh, but you seem to be a little hard-headed about this and you didn't seem to listen to what anyone in that previous thread was saying, specifically about protein.

[edit]Thought I'd also recommend something like FitDay to track your calories (and the source, be it fat, carbs, etc.) until you get your diet on track. You're likely to be very surprised.[/edit]

Dude is it just me or are you having a bad week or something? I don't know if you're trolling or honestly trying to offer advice. Whatever you're doing you tend to reply with negative statements. At any rate its my goal to grab some reading material along with internet research on a well balanced meal plan. I may not be eating perfectly just yet, but I'm sure its far better than the McDonald's meals I was eating last week. I'll check out that Fitday link, I've heard some co-workers raving about it recently.

Well, it's more like a bad month, but that's neither here nor there I just got out of a meeting with a bunch of hard-headed people, so truthfully my frustration did carry over. I'll try not to use ATOT as an outlet.

In my defense, typically a troll doesn't include information, and while I was a little vitriolic I did try to provide you with resources.

Anyway, it wasn't my intention. So, for that I do apologize. I just found it a little frustrating, because a lot of advice was offered and it appeared you didn't take it; in essence, I felt you were setting yourself up for failure. Why I concern myself w/ that so much is another subject of debate.

I do hope you keep it up, and I do hope you seek the resources mentioned in this thread and the other thread by myself and others, and I hope you're successful with it.

 

[Mo0o]

Thats quite a lot of random junk. If youre sticking with that you better starting eating some tofu to get protein. And please, go easy on the olive oil and parmesan cheese otherwise you might as well not go with this diet.

 

[SViper]

Originally posted by: Descartes
That diet is a mess. No offense, but you seriously should have planned this out rather than just grabbing random food items. You will lose weight, but if you keep that up you'll be losing a lot of muscle as well.

There's so many things to say that I don't really even know where to begin. I implore you to go to the bookstore and buy a book on nutrition and vegetarian diets. You're going to waste away if you keep eating like that.

Overall though, it's pretty simple: Find your BMR, find out what caloric deficit you require to lose weight (which could be coupled with exercise), and from that find the foods that get you to those calories. Balance the calories between protein, carbs and fat. A split of 40/40/20 might work for you, for example. Find a good nutrition book to tell you what a good source of those calories are and eat them. If you knew your BMR you wouldn't be scared of brown rice. Is it too much? Who knows, but if you break it down in your diet you should know without question. It's not a matter of opinion.

Sorry to come off a little harsh, but you seem to be a little hard-headed about this and you didn't seem to listen to what anyone in that previous thread was saying, specifically about protein.

[edit]Thought I'd also recommend something like FitDay to track your calories (and the source, be it fat, carbs, etc.) until you get your diet on track. You're likely to be very surprised.[/edit]

I think this is by far the best advice I've seen in this thread. Regardless of what diet you choose (South Beach, Vegan, Veggie, Carnivorous), you need to make sure you consume the correct amount of calories for your body. Consuming too many and you start putting on weight. Consuming too few forces your body into a starvation mode where your body starts using your muscle to fuel itself.

The FitDay site is a pretty good site to get a handle on how many calories you need to consume a day.

A healthy amount of weight to lose is 1-2 lbs a week. Oh, and please don't make the same mistake that binge dieters make. When you reach your desired weight, don't go crazy and go back to eating whatever you want to eat. Healthy dieting and exercise is a lifestyle change.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Like Descartes said, you HAVE to break this out on a nutrition budget.

You need to figure out what your BMR to figure out a baseline for caloric needs.
Now plan out your daily meals so that your calories fall into that 40/40/20 (Carbs/Protein/Fat) like he guidelined.

You are shifting your calories into really bad areas and skimping on "good" ones. With all of the sauteed cooking and olive oil you are getting a huge number of calories and fat without receiving any benefits. If you are going to get fat, get it from better sources like dairy, eggs, and meats. Don't load it up from oils and butter that provide zero nutrition for the calories they provide.

I really don't know what the rice and fruit breaks down to, but I would hazzard a guess that it isn't enough for a proper balance.

You also have no leafy greens in there (spinach, field greens, brocolli, ect) as well as other berries to help provide other vitamins and minerals that you aren't getting.

The human body is designed to run on a balanced diet spread out across a variety of meats, carbs, fruits and veggies. Diary is bonus because it's fatty, but also provides great protien and calcium.

Well I have my work cut out that's for sure, but I'll get where I need to be eventually

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: jhayx7
My wife and I have not been eating meat for over a month now. She has some health reasons and I agreed so it would be easier for her. My favorite vegetarian meal is black bean burgers (Morningstar brand), they are better than regular burgers IMO. Soy meat replacements are a good alternative too. We use it in tacos, soups, etc.. We have found the Publix brand that comes in bag to be the best. I actually do not crave meat now, the first couple of weeks was a little tempting and I did eat meat twice but none since. Also, taco bell is a great meatless fast food option. Bean burritos rule and you can get anything without meat, Meximelts and Mexican Pizzas are my fav.

I may give the soymeat a try, but is'nt that kind of a processed food? I never could eat beans, the taste does nothing for me.

You aren't going to eat pasta or beans? Dude, you're gonna have a tough time doing this right.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: Descartes
That diet is a mess. No offense, but you seriously should have planned this out rather than just grabbing random food items. You will lose weight, but if you keep that up you'll be losing a lot of muscle as well.

There's so many things to say that I don't really even know where to begin. I implore you to go to the bookstore and buy a book on nutrition and vegetarian diets. You're going to waste away if you keep eating like that.

Overall though, it's pretty simple: Find your BMR, find out what caloric deficit you require to lose weight (which could be coupled with exercise), and from that find the foods that get you to those calories. Balance the calories between protein, carbs and fat. A split of 40/40/20 might work for you, for example. Find a good nutrition book to tell you what a good source of those calories are and eat them. If you knew your BMR you wouldn't be scared of brown rice. Is it too much? Who knows, but if you break it down in your diet you should know without question. It's not a matter of opinion.

Sorry to come off a little harsh, but you seem to be a little hard-headed about this and you didn't seem to listen to what anyone in that previous thread was saying, specifically about protein.

[edit]Thought I'd also recommend something like FitDay to track your calories (and the source, be it fat, carbs, etc.) until you get your diet on track. You're likely to be very surprised.[/edit]

Dude is it just me or are you having a bad week or something? I don't know if you're trolling or honestly trying to offer advice. Whatever you're doing you tend to reply with negative statements. At any rate its my goal to grab some reading material along with internet research on a well balanced meal plan. I may not be eating perfectly just yet, but I'm sure its far better than the McDonald's meals I was eating last week. I'll check out that Fitday link, I've heard some co-workers raving about it recently.

Well, it's more like a bad month, but that's neither here nor there I just got out of a meeting with a bunch of hard-headed people, so truthfully my frustration did carry over. I'll try not to use ATOT as an outlet.

In my defense, typically a troll doesn't include information, and while I was a little vitriolic I did try to provide you with resources.

Anyway, it wasn't my intention. So, for that I do apologize. I just found it a little frustrating, because a lot of advice was offered and it appeared you didn't take it; in essence, I felt you were setting yourself up for failure. Why I concern myself w/ that so much is another subject of debate.

I do hope you keep it up, and I do hope you seek the resources mentioned in this thread and the other thread by myself and others, and I hope you're successful with it.

It's cool, I'm having a horrific day as well. There's a server outage I'm working on, I probably will end working 14-15 hours today. Is'nt being on salary great?

 

[D1gger]

I've been eating vegetarian for just over 2 weeks now, on the advice of my homeopathic doctor. It has been a challenge when the rest of family is enjoying a nice rare prime rib, but I haven't caved in.

So far, in addition to feeling better, and having more energy, I have lost 10 lbs. Don't listen to the people who say you need meat for protein or iron, those things are available in many other foods, such as nuts, soy products, legumes, beans and lentils. Just make sure you get a very good variety and keep an eye on the carbs, it is easy to pig out on the french fries and bread and rice dishes and not get enough greens, etc.

One of my favorite dishes is:

mixed stir fry veggies (mushrooms, broccoli, pea pods, carrots, bamboo shoots, etc)
1/3 cup vegetable stock
1/3 cup of coconut milk
1 - 2 tablespoons of curry powder (I like it hot)
1/2 tablespoon sambal oelek (I like it really hot)
a squeeze of fresh lime juice
1/2 a handful of chopped cilantro
a little cornstarch mixed with water to thicken

serve over a bed of brown rice and you have a great meal.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Atheus
Where do you get protien and iron? There may be some in there, but I don't see it.

You will be very thin very fast eating like that I reckon.

lots and lots of protein in nuts and beans.


more iron in greens than in meat especially the darker greens, spinach for example.

 

[SaturnX]

Originally posted by: D1gger
I've been eating vegetarian for just over 2 weeks now, on the advice of my homeopathic doctor. It has been a challenge when the rest of family is enjoying a nice rare prime rib, but I haven't caved in.

So far, in addition to feeling better, and having more energy, I have lost 10 lbs. Don't listen to the people who say you need meat for protein or iron, those things are available in many other foods, such as nuts, soy products, legumes, beans and lentils. Just make sure you get a very good variety and keep an eye on the carbs, it is easy to pig out on the french fries and bread and rice dishes and not get enough greens, etc.

One of my favorite dishes is:

mixed stir fry veggies (mushrooms, broccoli, pea pods, carrots, bamboo shoots, etc)
1/3 cup vegetable stock
1/3 cup of coconut milk
1 - 2 tablespoons of curry powder (I like it hot)
1/2 tablespoon sambal oelek (I like it really hot)
a squeeze of fresh lime juice
1/2 a handful of chopped cilantro
a little cornstarch mixed with water to thicken

serve over a bed of brown rice and you have a great meal.

That's most likely just water-weight, and also, the only healthy way to lose weight is to lose ~1-2 lbs per week.