My 2 cents on Kazaa, dot coms, and the Internet

[Citadel535]

Does anyone get the feeling that the media companies hate the internet and that is why so many are moving to take over ISPs? I mean it is the only place where we request what we want to see rather than have it shoved down our throats. This is why so many of the dot coms failed by taking a traditional approach to business: we will push ads and they will buy. Rather than focusing on doing something special to attract the consumer, they just hoped on the bandwagon. I think that's why sites such as ebay, paypal, and yahoo took off by doing something that put the Internet user in control (most copy-cats of these businesses failed though). Do you guys and gals think that by purchasing the ISPs do you get the feeling they are going to change certain things such as coming out with AOL type browsers?

If you look at Kazaa, most people are downloading music CDs instead of buying them and we are choosing what WE want to listen to. I noticed that the RIAA is pretending that everything is business as usual and it seems to be trying to convince the masses that everyone else is buying CDs still so you should too but sales show otherwise. In addition, radio always plays music that goes along with something that is being sold at the moment. I just heard that Evanescence song from Daredevil being played all the time again and realized "Oh it's coming out on DVD so they are pushing it." I think what people do on the Internet should not be allowed to be pried into. The same limitations of a phone tap should be put on it.

What do all of you think about this?

 

[Tab]

Its stealing, who is the reall asshole? 6 Million File-Sharing people like me who dont pay a dime for the music I have or the RIAA? (Note, if you think this confusing, well it is. However, just because albums are overpriced, crappy ect...doesnt give me the right to steal music)

 

[Citadel535]

Well it is stealing and I probably shouldn't have mentioned file "sharing" to throw off the topic on media, advertising, ISPs, and the Internet.

 

[KGB1]

It's funny... how Time Warner Cable in NYC provides me with Road Runner still protects ME from itself (Time Warner Music/RIAA) from getting my IP and such. While RIAA is pushing Verizon (in NY DSL service competitor) to give the CUSTOMERS IP addresses and their prior activities. I think Verizon has the right to keep their records and NOT let ANYONE else see them (gov't reasons excluded) This is not going to be easy.. I wonder how well they are doing over in Europe and Asia with the copyright infringement cases.

 

[her209]

RIAA sucks.

 

[Harvey]

Citadel535 -- As a former professional musician, singer, songwriter, I'm for the creative artists getting paid. Do you think your favorite musicians should flip burgers all day so they can pay the rent and electric bill, then, come home and jam in their garages all night to entertain you via their web cams for nothing? :Q

Your two cents has been hit by Bush-lite's economy, and it's now worth less than one cent.

 

[AlexKN1]

Actually there has been a lot of research, and the research says that the music market has not gone down but has gone up...and that people don't just download music..they try it out few songs..and then buy the whole album..

 

[Schadenfroh]

death to the riaa

 

[Dragon365]

Originally posted by: AlexKN1
Actually there has been a lot of research, and the research says that the music market has not gone down but has gone up...and that people don't just download music..they try it out few songs..and then buy the whole album..

Exactly, record sales never really went down, the RIAA as a whole has released fewer albums, and ther have been more sales per album

 

[Smaug]

I am a subscriber to emusic and the Apple music store, I just wish I had the same access to music that Kazaa gives you.

 

[rpberry123]

I pretty much agree with the consensus on the web that RIAA, et. al. missed a big opportunity when it killed Napster.
That could have been the biggest marketing tool ever for music, but now they have to protect the old business model
because they can't seem to find a way to keep both the consumers and artists happy. Something's got to give, and
in the end, the consumer is going to get their way. Musicians that are more forward looking have already seen the
changes coming and are moving away from cd's and toward the net to distribute and sell their music.

 

[Citadel535]

I am in no way for people not getting paid (I know money IS a good thing). I am FOR the media companies adapting to a new sort of economy. I see my family members watching MTV and they are being brainwashed. They have less music videos but they have tons of shows about shows the did in the past about music, pushing music that is on sale now (How can TRL always have top 3 videos that just conincide with a movie that is coming out or an artist who just released a new album). I want the media companies to find ways to attract sales by doign thing other than bombarding us with what they want us to buy at the moment.

 

[Lonyo]

If only there was a fair trade thing for music.

In the UK, you're not allowed to price fix, and people are pretty much pushed to offer a fair price (like phone costs etc).

If only they did it with music so you weren't made to pay £10/$15 for a 40 minute album with 13 tracks all of which sound the same.

 

[her209]

Corporations control the politicians.

 

[rh71]

The Internet is yet another piece of technology exploited for even the bad purposes. So what else is new ?

 

[ElFenix]

many of the other companies failed because they had no clue how to turn a profit. when you price dog food the same as the grocery store, then give out $25 off $25 coupons and free shipping on said dog food, you're not going to make money. along with many of these companies spending waaaay too much on office space and labor.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: her209
RIAA sucks.

Originally posted by: her209
Corporations control the politicians.

I'll drink to that. :beer::beer: