My 17 year old daughter wants to go on a school trip to Europe

[eits]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Pakman
Don't send your daughter! She's probably going because a boy she likes is going too... Unless you want her to come back as a woman. j/k...

this guy's an idiot.

Lots of morons on AT. Besides, what makes you think they can't do these things at home. Just because it's in another country, it really doesn't change that much. She'll probably be going to college soon enough anyway, and don't think college is the only place people party.

I say pay for her.

While it is true that they could be "bad" anywhere, a lot of girls tend to get quite "liberated" when they are studying abroad in Europe, I guess it's the whole "foreign" thing. (Used to work for a study abroad program)

what's wrong with being "liberated"? it's called learning about life and experiencing things that you can't in a dorm room.

it's ok for a guy to be "liberated" but it's not ok for a girl?

That's why I put it in quotes. I don't find anything wrong with it, I find most Americans to be extremely conservative and prudes, even the ones that don't think they are.

I should also add that they tend to get pretty gullible and naive too, come on, do you think that you are really the first American girl that the dark mysterious Spanish dude from last night has hit on??? No, it's practically their life.

right on.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Mill
I don't think you should let her go. There's really no need for someone to ever leave the US.

HAHAHAHA

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Pakman
Don't send your daughter! She's probably going because a boy she likes is going too... Unless you want her to come back as a woman. j/k...

this guy's an idiot.

Lots of morons on AT. Besides, what makes you think they can't do these things at home. Just because it's in another country, it really doesn't change that much. She'll probably be going to college soon enough anyway, and don't think college is the only place people party.

I say pay for her.

While it is true that they could be "bad" anywhere, a lot of girls tend to get quite "liberated" when they are studying abroad in Europe, I guess it's the whole "foreign" thing. (Used to work for a study abroad program)

what's wrong with being "liberated"? it's called learning about life and experiencing things that you can't in a dorm room.

it's ok for a guy to be "liberated" but it's not ok for a girl?

Women are known to become "easy" when they go on vacation. I went to spring break in Cancun, trust me on this.

After lies are told, and mysterious people vanish into the night, it's the woman that has to live with the consequences. You'll never find a guy that comes home pregnant.

women don't come home pregnant after spring break or vacation... that's absurd.

so what is women become easy when they're on vacation? guys get easy, too.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: eits

women don't come home pregnant after spring break or vacation... that's absurd.

So on one hand you're saying that it's ok that they get easy, but it's absurd that they get pregnant? It's a fact of life.

The way you worded that, I only need to prove that one person has come back pregnant in order to shoot disprove your statement.

 

[alm99]

Don't be the parent that denies an opportunity like this from your child. My parents did this to me in 11th grade. Stated they didn't have the money. It would cost $1200 and I had half that to put towards it and they said they couldn't. But two months later they are paying for golfing lessons for my two siblings and going on vacations in the summer.

If you deny your child this when you have the financial means to do so you are a horrible parent. I can understand concern for a childs safety, but again its a once in a lifetime chance.

Nothing worse be one of the 6 students that did not get the opportunity to go.

 

[D1gger]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Great, more annoying and obnoxious American tourists in Europe.

Nope, we're Canucks!

 

[D1gger]

Originally posted by: alm99
Don't be the parent that denies an opportunity like this from your child. My parents did this to me in 11th grade. Stated they didn't have the money. It would cost $1200 and I had half that to put towards it and they said they couldn't. But two months later they are paying for golfing lessons for my two siblings and going on vacations in the summer.

If you deny your child this when you have the financial means to do so you are a horrible parent. I can understand concern for a childs safety, but again its a once in a lifetime chance.

Nothing worse be one of the 6 students that did not get the opportunity to go.

No, that won't happen, whatever happens, if she really wants to go, she will be going. This is simply a discussion of how much of the money she should try to contribute. It is not an issue of what we can afford, the money is not a problem, we just want to make sure she feels like she earned it and doesn't get an attitude of entitlement.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Ramma2
Make her work for it, have her save as much as possible then pay the rest.

This is what I would do. I wouldn't tell her that I was going to cover any of the trip but have her save up, encourage her when she gets discouraged and then pay the rest as soon as it's time.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

If she wants to learn about Europe, buy her a $25 textbook and not a $2500 vacation. Or let her pay for it 100%.

 

[D1gger]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
If she wants to learn about Europe, buy her a $25 textbook and not a $2500 vacation. Or let her pay for it 100%.

Boy, you're a hardass.

 

[piasabird]

One problem I see is that these kind of trips probably dont go anywhere but the tourist type of venues. As trips to Europe go it sounds like a pretty good deal. I imagine they will stay at youth hostels or something like that. Visiting other countries is a good experience. However, you dont really see how people live in Europe on such a short trip.

 

[FoBoT]

i would take my kid(s) myself before sending them off at 17 with others

 

[dethman]

i actually missed out on a europe trip like this with my friends when i was 17 because my parents didn't want to pay for it (we were hard off back then also). ten years later, i still regret not going and they still regret not helping pay to send me.

 

[judasmachine]

Hostel FTW!







(the movie)

 

[0roo0roo]

no win,let her go she'll get laid, be harsh and oppressive and she'll bang guys to spite u is she hot?

 

[intogamer]

Pay for trip but not for spending money

Make her work hard for the monies when she sees all the fashion stores in Europe

 

[imported_Mike]

Tell her you'll match every dollar she saves towards the trip, up to a certain number. That way she will save some for the trip, and you'll pay for about half of it.

 

[screw3d]

Please have her go. It could be one of those life-changing experiences for her.

 

[NakaNaka]

I'd pay for a good amount, but tell her she needs to do more contributing around the house, save some money/get a job. She needs to go on this trip, it will be an amazing experience for her.

 

[Motek]

If you see "Eurotrip" you will change your mind about everything.
Lol, j/k.

I think you should let her go, pay for it too.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: mugs
I can't believe nobody has asked for pics of the daughter yet.

He said she's 17. You can bet it would have long been asked for if he said 18.

 

[Extelleron]

Where is this trip going, anyway? Just wondering, Europe is a big place you know.

I'm sure it would be a great experience, and you should definately let her go.

 

[Kaieye]

Help out if you can do it financially. Its better to spend the money now than to give them a bigger inheritance later.

My 15 year old daughter just got back from Shenzhen, China about two months ago with her mom(wife,chaperone). They went with four other students and a teacher from a public school here in S.F. The stories I heard about the Chinese government footing the bill plus arranging the homestay with meals(the group had to pay their own airfare to Hong Kong) and showing many children's activities will be remembered for a long time by the group. The Chinese government also did this for students from Japan, New Zealand, Russia, Canada, Hong Kong, Romania, Korea, etc.etc.

 

[Charmed]

I was going to go to Germany at the end of my senior year, but unfortunately couldnt come up with the cash (about 2500$) and my parents didnt have the funds to help. I would pay for it for her.....She be very happy. And as everyone else said......Its a once in a lifetime experience.

Charmed

 

[Azndude2190]

As a high school student.My senior class will be going to Europe also.Actually there are several different groups going to different countries.And this is excluding the clubs at my school.

Bottom line pay for it...its awsome experience for your child.I liked London when I went.