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My 10 yr old daughter want a new computer.

ctbaars

ctbaars

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Our home computer is a "public" computer that we use mostly for email and internet. However, she uses it for Minecraft a lot. It blue screens once a month or so but the most annoying part is that the mouse and / or keyboard will lock up with heavy use. Sometimes with in 5 minutes of sitting down. I've changed those out with misappropriated parts from work a couple of times so it's not those. The monitor is not bad except for some dead pixels. Or it might be the chocolate milk and Oreo's. Not sure yet.
Anyway.
She wants a new one. So I figured, yeah, okay. It's been a while since I put one together myself for fun. However, she doesn't want any old computer. She wants an NSA server level thing. You know, so I can set up a Minecraft server for all her 100 friends. She wants ECC! She has no idea what that means. Virtualization world; I'm like huh? As my wife is being a "peanut gallery" in the other room, laughing, telling me my budget is a hundred bucks and such.
So I told her no. You can set up the server yourself. I got it trouble for that later because she's only 10.

I want to know what ATOT thinks I should do.
Should I build a 24 core rack assembly in the garage? Get an Xbox (We've never had anything like that)?
Tell her to go play outside without her wifi connected Ipod pad thingie?
Or spend some time with her outside; say a bike ride?
 
Sounds like she's already done some research. I say help her along with that research, give her a budget, and see if you guys can piece something together for a certain amount of money. Don't squash something she's interested in, and building a computer on a budget will start to teach her how to budget things in general, and how expensive things can be.
 
She's 10 and knows this stuff? I'm thinking I'd encourage it and set her up for a future in IT 😀 Truthfully in the 80's, PC stuff was brand new, so I'd go nuts with C-64 equipment, IBM stuff, and Apple computers at friends houses. That interest at 12 years old led to my current successful career.
 
You (she) doesn't need to host a server in your house. There are very cheap MC servers online. My son used MCProHosting for a year or two.
 
If she's 10 and interested in running a server, I'd say go for it, best get them into IT while they are young (Y)

Regarding ECC, let her do her research first. If she wants it, let her argue her case. You can always say no anyways, cause adult. If you want to spend the money, it'll increase server stability, otherwise no.

16 GB of RAM, and a Core i5 would do the job if 100 players are going to be on it. No need to rack it up.
Upload speed is probably the biggest issue if you're going to be running 100 players.

EDIT: Don't rent a damn server. Get her building, managing and upgrading stuff. Renting is for pussies. This is educational shit.
 
I agree but it's likely that this will be a fad for 3 months and then move on to something else. But while it's a hot topic, I will definitely encourage engagement.
@Sonikku, I figured if I reuse the hard drives and CD (not even DVD) player I already have, I could save enough for two 1080's. You think? No pansy ass shit allowed.
@Homerboy, Good idea, especially if it's short term.
And @Linux23, A Big Mac?

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@PingviN. There is that too. 100 is an exaggeration but yes, You're right, It's about the journey.
 
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ctbaars said:
I agree but it's likely that this will be a fad for 3 months and then move on to something else. But while it's a hot topic, I will definitely encourage engagement.
@Sonikku, I figured if I reuse the hard drives and CD (not even DVD) player I already have, I could save enough for two 1080's. You think? No pansy ass shit allowed.
@Homerboy, Good idea, especially if it's short term.
And @Linux23, A Big Mac?
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They can install any mods they want, special maps, password protect it, white/black list. There's different levels of server (more players, the higher the level of course -- RAM is king) AND it will teach her how to admin a MC server and not have to worry about also managing a server.
 
Fritzo said:
She's 10 and knows this stuff? I'm thinking I'd encourage it and set her up for a future in IT 😀 Truthfully in the 80's, PC stuff was brand new, so I'd go nuts with C-64 equipment, IBM stuff, and Apple computers at friends houses. That interest at 12 years old led to my current successful career.
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It's these minecraft kids and it is strangely common now. They all know that they need a personal server where they can play with all of their friends and only their friends, to create their own private little world where they make all the rules.

They get pretty serious into the details of what they need to do it.
 
damn when I was 10, I was stealing apples from the orchard down the road. I would definitely encourage her in her hobby though.
 
Buy her a server and tell her she's on her own for 1 year of college.

Sys admin work pays pretty good, so it shouldn't be a problem.
 
zinfamous said:
It's these minecraft kids and it is strangely common now. They all know that they need a personal server where they can play with all of their friends and only their friends, to create their own private little world where they make all the rules.

They get pretty serious into the details of what they need to do it.
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I got a good 75% of my knowledge of networking, routers, and client/server setups from gaming. I often tell people Doom made my career. It's disturbing when you find out that a multi-million dollar international file server is set up with the same concepts as a Quake or a Counter-Strike server 😀
 
You can put together an i5 server for ~400 bucks, not counting the OS or monitor. I don't know how many players that would support in vanilla minecraft, but it would probably be a lot.
 
Fritzo said:
I got a good 75% of my knowledge of networking, routers, and client/server setups from gaming. I often tell people Doom made my career. It's disturbing when you find out that a multi-million dollar international file server is set up with the same concepts as a Quake or a Counter-Strike server 😀
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LOL yeap -- I'd guess most people in their 40-50s and in the IT industry got started on computers by late 80s/early 90s gaming.
 
Fritzo said:
I got a good 75% of my knowledge of networking, routers, and client/server setups from gaming. I often tell people Doom made my career. It's disturbing when you find out that a multi-million dollar international file server is set up with the same concepts as a Quake or a Counter-Strike server 😀
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Back in the 90s, when we were hiring IT folks to set up and run our networks, servers, etc., one of the questions we asked was "Can you set up a Quake server for us?" The point wasn't that we really wanted a Quake server (which we did, of course, and got) but that it allowed us to pick out the folks who were service oriented from the empire building control freaks. Anyway, yeah, I learned more about network configuration (which in my case, isn't much) from Doom and Quake than from anything job related. Learned how IP tunneling on IPX worked (or was it the other way around?). 😀
 
ctbaars said:
She wants a new one. So I figured, yeah, okay. It's been a while since I put one together myself for fun. However, she doesn't want any old computer. She wants an NSA server level thing. You know, so I can set up a Minecraft server for all her 100 friends. She wants ECC! She has no idea what that means. Virtualization world;
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sounds like one of her online minecraft friends is really a 40 year old dude stalking children and feeding them this info.
 
maddogchen said:
sounds like one of her online minecraft friends is really a 40 year old dude stalking children and feeding them this info.
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Oh yeah. Believe me, that crossed my mind too. I think it's one of the older brothers though and he's okay. Between my wife and I, we know them all (families).
 
ctbaars said:
Oh yeah. Believe me, that crossed my mind too. I think it's one of the older brothers though and he's okay. Between my wife and I, we know them all (families).
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That was why I stopped playing MC on public servers. I'm not (quite) 40 but when I realized I had to be on "best behavior" because there were 13 year old girls in chat, I decided to GTFO.

Minecraft is hella fun though. If you were into Lego as a kid...
 
bisechosting is pretty good and affordable. they usually run good lifetime deals on their premium plans.

not sure how updated the plugins are now but I used to use an irc plugin to monitor chat/issue commands on my family/friends server using various devices.
 
Sonikku said:
Be sure to get that ten year old a 1080 gtx and i7. Also a SSD. None of of that pansy ass lock up shit.
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THIS! She deserves it, you're an ATOT dad, after all. You know you can afford it. 😛

Edit: More seriously, though, that's good that she's interested in the technical aspects at 10. Could get her set in a career in IT this way. I would "explore options" for building the server, with the caveat that a $100 budget might be slightly on the light side.

I can't help you with any specifics, because I've never played MineCraft, nor set up a MC server.
 
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Doesn't sound to me like she is actually interested. It sounds like her friend's brother wants to play on a server that YOU paid for. If she is really interested, make her do some actual research first, then work with her to refine.
 
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