Muslims in Britain Demand Sharia-Compliant Student Loans

Texashiker

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Paying interest is against Sharia law, so muslim students in Britain are demanding interest free loans.

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2388/sharia-compliant-student-loans

The question I have, will governments be pushed into having separate laws for every group that stands up and protest?

If Christians, Atheist, Jews,,,, all pay interest on their students loans, why should Muslims get special treatment? Is it going to get to the point where we have laws and courts of atheist, laws and courts for jews, laws and courts for christians, laws and courts for muslims,,,,,? Depending on your religious beliefs (or lack of) that is the law the judge uses?

I respect the right of people worship the religion of their choice, but there has to be a line that society does not cross.
 

RbSX

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As a UK person, I'd demand that every single last one of them get deported back to the dust bowl they came from.

This is just one issue that pisses me off so much it makes me see red.
 

Darwin333

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Paying interest is against Sharia law, so muslim students in Britain are demanding interest free loans.

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2388/sharia-compliant-student-loans

The question I have, will governments be pushed into having separate laws for every group that stands up and protest?

If Christians, Atheist, Jews,,,, all pay interest on their students loans, why should Muslims get special treatment? Is it going to get to the point where we have laws and courts of atheist, laws and courts for jews, laws and courts for christians, laws and courts for muslims,,,,,? Depending on your religious beliefs (or lack of) that is the law the judge uses?

I respect the right of people worship the religion of their choice, but there has to be a line that society does not cross.

I say we start a new religion.

My proposed first commandment is: No one other than the Lord himself (whatever we decide to name it) shall collect a tax from its (his/hers whatever) followers.
 

Anarchist420

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Well, the Roman Catholic Church once censored the Bible and said that charging interest was illegal. Of course, what the Bible really said was that embezzlement was illegal. If the Roman Catholic Church got away with it, then why shouldn't the Muslims?

If the UK government didn't loan money, then this problem wouldn't exist.
 

mountains

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Wait, being a Muslim means I get interest free loans?

I think I've finally found religion :wub:
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yeah nothing dishonest about this thread at all...

Precisely who besides these are claiming religious exemption from paying interest? What would have been the honest and proper thing for them to do is not take the loans if they didn't like the terms. What they want is tantamount to theft. Is that permitted?
 

Ns1

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"They are now demanding that the British government put in place a scheme that would enable Muslim students to finance their degrees in a way that complies with Islamic principles."

pay cash
 

Kadarin

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UK government should tell these Muslim students to go pound sand. Fuck them.
 

gevorg

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How long until the queen will have to wear burqa to avoid insulting Muslims.
 

PeshakJang

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This is a topic that I brought up a while back with respect to the healthcare law in the US.

Another aspect of Sharia-compliant banking is that insurance is strictly forbidden... it's viewed as a form of gambling.

If the US government makes it a requirement to purchase insurance as a condition of citizenship, will an exception be made for everyone who stands up and proclaims religious discrimination?
 

woolfe9999

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They have a choice between getting a loan and complying with their religious dogma. Up to them.
 
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Precisely who besides these are claiming religious exemption from paying interest? What would have been the honest and proper thing for them to do is not take the loans if they didn't like the terms. What they want is tantamount to theft. Is that permitted?

For starters no one is demanding interest free loans. The structure in the UK has had interest equal to the rate of inflation. That will change next year to 3% above inflation.

Secondly they are saying they won't be able to attend school so....
 

woolfe9999

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For starters no one is demanding interest free loans. The structure in the UK has had interest equal to the rate of inflation. That will change next year to 3% above inflation.

Secondly they are saying they won't be able to attend school so....

Yes I read the article. They are demanding to be exempted from an increase in interest rates that everyone else will have to pay.
 

woolfe9999

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how is sharia law different from the Beth Din for jews in the UK?

Beth Din are non-compulsory religious courts for Jews. They can choose to resolve a civil dispute in such a venue if they like, for example. They aren't exempted from any British laws. I fail to see the comparison.
 

SandEagle

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Beth Din are non-compulsory religious courts for Jews. They can choose to resolve a civil dispute in such a venue if they like, for example. They aren't exempted from any British laws. I fail to see the comparison.

well why dont those mooslims do the same? i find it hard to believe that there arent islamic banking in the uk. theres some heer in the usa
 

greenhawk

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IIRC the last time I read this sort of topic arrising (can not member which country, proberly mine), the answer was rather easily done.

1)lend money
2)require repayments with heavy penities.

in the end, you pay back <x> times <period>, but can only borrow something like 70&#37;(might have been lower) of that total repayment amount.

the lender in the end just ends up with a bigger piece of pie as it gets worked out on a far higher interest rate (errr, I mean profit margin).

they can have their "religious approaved" loan, but they end up paying more for it to cover the unstable currency / interest rates. Costs which would normally be in the open for people using the standard offerings.

Plan B which I find more to their liking is they borrow from their relitives living in a country that does have the required banking loans. They they only have to "gamble" on the changing exchange rates.