Muslims file complaint against Catholics

[peonyu]

I had a relative attend a Catholic university and she said there were plenty of Chinese students [from China] there and they were practicing Buddhists to boot. They never said a peep about the Crosses. It didn't bother them at all...Its a Catholic university afterall. The Priest set aside a room for them to do Buddhist rituals in and that was that.

If you want to know what tolerance is then that is it - A Catholic school tolerating [in their eyes] non believers AND giving them a room to pray in and treating them like a fellow brother..

Now Muslims ? Only Muslims complain about stuff like this, and they are also dumb enough/disrespectful enough to enroll in a Catholic school and then cry about crosses...If they dont like crosses then they should piss off and go back to Somalia/*insertotherMuslimmajorityhellholecountry*. Other Religions, including Jews, hardly ever cry about crosses in a Catholic school...Since those religions tend to not attract drooling retards [unlike Islam].

 

[HumblePie]

Islam is PRESENTLY the the religion responsible for the most murder, mayhem and oppression. We live in the PRESENT. It's like a city-dweller saying that we should be just as worried about tigers as we are about cars because at some point in history tigers killed more people than cars.

The strawman is strong in this one.

We aren't talking about completely different things. We are talking about people, with the mistaken judgement brought on by worship of an invisible friend, have decided to do things to piss someone else off because they are different. Actually it's simpler than that. It's assholes that think they are better than others because those other people are different and want to be assholes about it. Again, NOTHING NEW ABOUT MANKIND. Has never changed and never will. The justification for being an ass, in this case religion, has no bearing upon the actual underlying problem with the human condition over superiority and inferiority complexes.


This has nothing to do with cars and tigers you doof.

 

[umbrella39]

Next the muslims will be complaining about the schools not serving halal meals.

Next you'll be making yet another OP about Muslims/Sharia... How long do you plan to stay under there...

Just another step...

Is there room down there for one more Tex...

 

[Anarchist420]

Not anything they want, no. You know those laws that say a private business can't exclude black people from their store? There are laws that preclude religious discrimination in the private sector. These laws have nothing to do with the First Amendment. They were passed to enforce 14th Amendment Equal Protection. The question is whether this is discrimination. I don't think the religious symbols are. But allowing one religious group to form a campus organization and not another, not so sure.

The 14th Amendment is unConstitutional. The 1st Amendment starts with "Congress shall make no law ...". That said, it's up to whatever state Catholic University is in to decide whether Catholic University may to discriminate.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...ide-room-without-crosses.html?test=latestnews


The whole idea of this is absolute BS and their complaint should be tossed out immediately. The university is private.

Why would a muslim enroll in a catholic university?

This makes the answer clear.

Actually, Catholic University may not be completely private, because I know that Catholic organizations are among the first to take public monies (both state and federal).

The U.S. Supreme Court should have no jurisdiction over this, Catholic University shouldn't receive any money collected by the Federal government, and if I were a state legislator, I would vote to not fund education with any public money.

 

[HumblePie]

The 14th Amendment is unConstitutional. The 1st Amendment starts with "Congress shall make no law ...". That said, it's up to whatever state Catholic University is in to decide whether Catholic University may to discriminate.


Actually, Catholic University may not be completely private, because I know that Catholic organizations are among the first to take public monies (both state and federal).

The U.S. Supreme Court should have no jurisdiction over this, Catholic University shouldn't receive any money collected by the Federal government, and if I were a state legislator, I would vote to not fund education with any public money.

Go back to sleeping in your 7th grade class. There is nothing "unconstitutional" about it.


As far as receiving public funds, that does NOT make you a public entity doof. That's like saying people that receive food stamps are not public entities and are now required to let anyone in their home that wants to go into their home. I mean they are taking federal funds right? So because they take federal moniez then that means if I want to chill at their pad and play their xbox I should be allowed to. Aimiright?

Receiving federal or state money does NOT automatically make you a public organization. Learn to comprehend before you spout off.

 

[Infohawk]

Islam is kinda of a choice.

If you are born into an islam family and you leave islam, your family is supposed to kill you.

If you freely join islam, and then leave, you are supposed to be put to death.

related news article - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316550,00.html

Again how is this any different any any other religion, major or not, throughout all of human history? Westboro, Muslims, Crusades, Inquisition, and others are just major media covered or historical covered events. All the same shit with a slightly different smell depending upon if you ate asparagus or broccoli. Either way it is all a steaming pile of shit in the end no matter which religion's fruit you chose to eat and shit out later.

The strawman is strong in this one.

We aren't talking about completely different things. We are talking about people, with the mistaken judgement brought on by worship of an invisible friend, have decided to do things to piss someone else off because they are different. Actually it's simpler than that. It's assholes that think they are better than others because those other people are different and want to be assholes about it. Again, NOTHING NEW ABOUT MANKIND. Has never changed and never will. The justification for being an ass, in this case religion, has no bearing upon the actual underlying problem with the human condition over superiority and inferiority complexes.


This has nothing to do with cars and tigers you doof.

So what you're saying was you were talking about nothing that was relevant to the post you quoted or read? Texas made a criticism of Islam. You went on to claim that all religions throughout history are like this. It's a classic apologist argument that I responded to. Now you're moving the goal posts by claiming you were talking nothing new for mankind. How exactly do you think your posts relate to this topic or to Texashiker's post?

The cars and lions was an analogy. Sorry if you're feeling frustrated because you didn't understand it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The point I see here as possibly valid is that the university apparently allows a Jewish student organization but refuses to allow a Muslim one. If that is true - this is according to the plaintiff's attorney.

Reading the article I think your statement is incorrect. I don't see a refusal to allow one, rather that the school does not feel compelled to actively support it by providing an area with no Christian symbolism. Now there might be an issue if they removed crosses for the Jewish group, but I did not see that was done.

 

[HumblePie]

So what you're saying was you were talking about nothing that was relevant to the post you quoted or read? Texas made a criticism of Islam. You went on to claim that all religions throughout history are like this. It's a classic apologist argument that I responded to. Now you're moving the goal posts by claiming you were talking nothing new for mankind. How exactly do you think your posts relate to this topic or to Texashiker's post?

The cars and lions was an analogy. Sorry if you're feeling frustrated because you didn't understand it.

I'm not apologizing for shit. They ALL FUCKING SUCK. I'm just saying it's fucking hypocritical to try and put all the blame on one group when humans when in reality almost every cliche of human groupings have done this same shit all throughout history. I'm pointing out this is nothing new. In the grand scheme of things we all know nothing is going to come of this lawsuit so it doesn't matter. Whooop dee doo, it just happens to be a bunch of douche bag Muslims in this story are are being the idiots. Yes it happens a lot, but I also think lately the media is more focused on anything Muslims do along these stupid ass lines that other groups of people. The only Christian groups of late who have been crossing the line of douche baggery in the main stream media is the Westboro jackasses.

My point is that douchebags will be douchebags regardless of what their justification is for it. And religious based douchebags are much more like to be assholes like this than not.

 

[woolfe9999]

Reading the article I think your statement is incorrect. I don't see a refusal to allow one, rather that the school does not feel compelled to actively support it by providing an area with no Christian symbolism. Now there might be an issue if they removed crosses for the Jewish group, but I did not see that was done.

The first paragraph contains this conjunctive statement:

The Washington, D.C. Office of Human Rights confirmed that it is investigating allegations that Catholic University violated the human rights of Muslim students by not allowing them to form a Muslim student group and by not providing them rooms without Christian symbols for their daily prayers.

You're probably connecting the two because these two statements are made side by side later on:

I think they are entitled as a matter of law to be able to form a Muslim student association and to have the same privileges as associations,” he said. “I think that most of them would much prefer to have a place to pray – that they are not surrounded by various Catholic symbols – a place that is more conductive to their religious beliefs than being surrounded by pictures of Popes.”

However, this from the other article linked at the bottom of the OP article (school newspaper) I think is saying there are two separate claims:

Banzhaf claims that the University is denying Muslim students the same benefits that students of other religions are able to enjoy since there is no formal Muslim association sponsored by Catholic University but the Columbus School of Law has an association for Jewish students

“Denying Muslim students the opportunity for form a student group on campus could hardly be based upon any fundamental Catholic doctrine since Georgetown University not only has such a Muslim student group, but also provides its Muslim students with a separate prayer room and even a Muslim chaplain,” said Banzhaf in that press release.

Seems to be drawing a distinction between the two issues.

- wolf

 

[a777pilot]

The muslim students did NOT file this law suit. It was a radical white non-muslim professor that filed this law suit. Legally, he has no standing so it will be thrown out.

Just an attention whore.

 

[SparkyJJO]

The point I see here as possibly valid is that the university apparently allows a Jewish student organization but refuses to allow a Muslim one. If that is true - this is according to the plaintiff's attorney.

Judaism was the precursor to Christianity and is therefore related, so I can see the reason for them allowing that organization.

 

[Lithium381]

our liberal policies will eventually allow them to invade us slowly, just as the illegals are...

because we CAN NOT SAY NO...... we'll be taken over.

 

[mammador]

Muslims are supposed to humble. They had no right to complain, period. lol...

 

[the DRIZZLE]

Not anything they want, no. You know those laws that say a private business can't exclude black people from their store? There are laws that preclude religious discrimination in the private sector. These laws have nothing to do with the First Amendment. They were passed to enforce 14th Amendment Equal Protection. The question is whether this is discrimination. I don't think the religious symbols are. But allowing one religious group to form a campus organization and not another, not so sure.

Isn't a private university closer to a private club than a public business? Does that give them more leeway?