i bought my first 2 sticks of mushkin recently in spite of being hooked on corsair for years (neither has disappointed me at all)..knew about mushkin back when they and corsair were the holy grail of memory..premium memory, premium price..but when you had to have the best... they were 2 of the big names..maybe THE names, to choose from. now, there's more options for good memory..no other memory company has a forum in my mind that is of the calibers of mushkins. mushkin greg over there will give anyone a set or 2 of the best timings he can find to go with their motherboard. name another company who'll do that. it's not that ocz and kingston make better ram..or are better known..it's just that have been known to make ram that people can buy cheap. given the price of ram these days, there's no reason not to buy the best you can get rather than settle for what you can afford. and no, i don't work for mushkin or corsair🙂