Mushkin ECO2 SandForce-based SSDs new arrival $40/$55/$80/$170 @ Newegg

[bbhaag]

nvm

 

[VirtualLarry]

New $5 off coupon codes on the 60GB and 240GB models.
$34.99 and $82.99 AC

 

[richierich1212]

120GB version is $47.70 after coupon code EMKATKX22.

 

[balloonshark]

According to SD the 120GB version is a Shell Shocker deal at 1PM PST today (6/23/2015) for $45.99.

 

[richierich1212]

120GB is now $42.99 via Newegg ShellShocker.

 

[RussellOrtego]

I have already have problems with the Mushkin Ssd I bought like a year ago, and have only used a handful of times. Their customer service is really bad and you have to pay shipping to them (like $10) etc. Not going to use their products again. SSD went out after probably 5,000-10,000 hours of use when the average time to failure was supposed to be 2,000,000 hours.

 

[VirtualLarry]

120GB is now $42.99 via Newegg ShellShocker.

Thanks, snagged a couple for customer builds.

 

[Zim]

Thanks, snagged a couple for customer builds.

You can expect them to be back. Sometimes saving a few bucks in the short term isn't a good investment.

 

[VirtualLarry]

You can expect them to be back. Sometimes saving a few bucks in the short term isn't a good investment.

Then what SSDs would you recommend? Samsung, the ones with firmware problems that slow down your drive due to stale data, or brick your drive due to bad firmware updates?

Contrast that to a Kingston V300 that I've had in continuous service, for nearly several years now, without a problem.

The only certain thing is, most storage devices will die, when you least expect them to. And it doesn't matter how much you pay for them. Always have backups of your most important data, and then you won't have to worry.

 

[Zim]

Then what SSDs would you recommend? Samsung, the ones with firmware problems that slow down your drive due to stale data, or brick your drive due to bad firmware updates?

Contrast that to a Kingston V300 that I've had in continuous service, for nearly several years now, without a problem.

You've answered your own question... use Kingston.

The only certain thing is, most storage devices will die, when you least expect them to. And it doesn't matter how much you pay for them. Always have backups of your most important data, and then you won't have to worry.

Be sure to tell your customers that because when these Mushkins die they'll be needing their backups. The only thing is that their failure will not be unexpected because I'm telling you now that they will fail and your customers will complain.

 

[VirtualLarry]

You've answered your own question... use Kingston.Be sure to tell your customers that because when these Mushkins die they'll be needing their backups. The only thing is that their failure will not be unexpected because I'm telling you now that they will fail and your customers will complain.

So, are you privy to failure statistics for Mushkin SSDs? And you are telling me that the failure rate is 100%? For what timespan? Or are you just going by anecdotal reports and reviews?

Edit: Or do you have personal experience with Mushkin SSDs or customer service?

Or are you just thread-crapping, because you don't like Mushkin?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sometimes saving a few bucks in the short term isn't a good investment.

You've answered your own question... use Kingston.

That's more than a bit ironic, really, since both the Mushkin ECO2 and the Kingston V300 are super-budget, cheap, async-NAND, SandForce 2nd-gen clone SSDs. To hold one up as a shining example of quality, while denigrating the other, smacks of brand bias. It's not like either company writes the firmware for the drives either.

 

[Zim]

Put me down as a troll but please remember this thread when those Mushkins go mushy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Put me down as a troll but please remember this thread when those Mushkins go mushy.

I still would like to know why you feel Mushkin SandForce-based SSDs are any less reliable than any other SandForce-based SSD? There must be a reason.

As for SandForce-based SSDs in general - I happen to think that all of them are unreliable, to an extent. But from another perspective, all SSDs are unreliable, period, if you consider that they might have random controller panics. I just don't see the reasoning why a Mushkin SandForce-based drive would be MORE unreliable. And I don't think that it's just the brand, their "Reactor" SSDs with the SMI controller have been getting rave reviews.

As long as someone backs up their files, the reliability of the OS SSD should only be of minor concern; an annoyance to swap it out if it fails, some labor to restore the backup image or re-install the OS.

 

[Zim]

I still would like to know why you feel Mushkin SandForce-based SSDs are any less reliable than any other SandForce-based SSD? There must be a reason.

Some people refuse to see the facts even when they hit them slap in the face. Given the fact that there are 35% of reviews that are 1 or 2 stars for the 120GB Mushkin SSD compared to 20% for the 120GB Kingston V300 SSD, there will be those people who will insist that this means nothing. In the absence of any other evidence they will disregard the only evidence they have and are likely to get. It is my belief that, even if the numbers are not entirely representative of the purchasers (and I would disagree with that), where there's smoke there's fire.

Several years ago I had the misfortune to order a pair of Mushkin Redline memory sticks. They did not work. After several round trips over multiple months I attempted to get a pair that worked. I eventually succeeded but I sold them asap because I had had enough of them. During the debacle I came to the realization that Mushkin was not testing their memory. They were actually using their customer base to test their products. Looking at the reviews for Mushkin products today, I believe they are still doing that.

The side effect with trying to explain why you believe something is that there are people who will insist that what you believe is wrong. Personally I'm not interested in having my opinions/beliefs challenged by anything less than arguments backed by facts and figures.

 

[soccerballtux]

Some people refuse to see the facts even when they hit them slap in the face. Given the fact that there are 35% of reviews that are 1 or 2 stars for the 120GB Mushkin SSD compared to 20% for the 120GB Kingston V300 SSD, there will be those people who will insist that this means nothing. In the absence of any other evidence they will disregard the only evidence they have and are likely to get. It is my belief that, even if the numbers are not entirely representative of the purchasers (and I would disagree with that), where there's smoke there's fire.

Several years ago I had the misfortune to order a pair of Mushkin Redline memory sticks. They did not work. After several round trips over multiple months I attempted to get a pair that worked. I eventually succeeded but I sold them asap because I had had enough of them. During the debacle I came to the realization that Mushkin was not testing their memory. They were actually using their customer base to test their products. Looking at the reviews for Mushkin products today, I believe they are still doing that.

The side effect with trying to explain why you believe something is that there are people who will insist that what you believe is wrong. Personally I'm not interested in having my opinions/beliefs challenged by anything less than arguments backed by facts and figures.

Interesting you say that. PNY might be doing that to me, ugh

 

[VirtualLarry]

Some people refuse to see the facts even when they hit them slap in the face. Given the fact that there are 35% of reviews that are 1 or 2 stars for the 120GB Mushkin SSD compared to 20% for the 120GB Kingston V300 SSD, there will be those people who will insist that this means nothing.

A Mushkin ECO2 review:
I own and operate a small repair company and I've sold about 24 of these lovely drives and haven't had a failure yet in the 1 1/2 years ive been installing them. I think that about speaks for itself.

Another one:
Pros: Bought 10 of these and 3 already failed and RMA-ed
Cons: unreliable - 3 out of 10 dead!

Another one:
Other Thoughts: We started replacing all HDDs with SSDs last year and we have a mixture of brands, speeds, and sizes. The Mushkin drives seem to have a lower fail rate compared to our other brands. We only have 4 of this model, but I will definitely be ordering more.

Another one:
I've had to replace a few of these v300's. Definitly eats into profits

A V300 review:
Cons: Nowhere near advertised speeds. Kingston follows the bait & switch routine, and no longer uses the same components as it did when the V300 was first released. I got upwards of 200mbps read. I have two other ssd's that touch 500 easy.
If I wanted a slower drive I've had other far cheaper options. There was no need to pay the extra for the Kingston brand.
Died after 3 weeks of use- Called Kingston, provided my address and other info, started up an case. They transferred me to the RMA department, who in turn were prompt to hang up on me. I called back a week later and referenced the case number. Someone sent me an email asking me to send them a scanned copy of the receipt and other info - I did that promptly. I received an acknowledgement from them stating that I'd receive an email with RMA instructions. It has been several weeks since that last email and I haven't gotten a response from them since.
I have been advised by friends that the V300 series from Kingston were one of the top 10 worst ssd's in the market. I should have listened.

Other Thoughts: Rather than buy the V300, buy ANY cheap ssd. This drive can only bench less than half it's advertised speed.