did nobody post this? weekend special @ mushkin.com , 2 128 cas2 pc133 rev1.5 sticks for $277 free shipping? if you ask me, that's like getting 2 rev2 sticks for MUCH MUCH less! basically just as good as rev2, from what i've heard...
mushkin 1.5
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Can anyone who has the this memory (REV 1.5) how it is?
Thanks. I think this is a good deal then spending 175 per stick.
Thanks. I think this is a good deal then spending 175 per stick.
Speaking from experience, the "rev1.5" is just as good as the "rev2". The main difference is the PCB design, but they both use mosel 7ns chips (143MHz rated).
The "hand picked", "rev1.5", "rev2" are Mushkin? terms. In addition they do not manufacture their own memory, they buy from a distributor.
The "hand picked", "rev1.5", "rev2" are Mushkin? terms. In addition they do not manufacture their own memory, they buy from a distributor.
Damn, I just order the same stuff a couple weeks ago for ~$350 shipped. Oh well. I'm very happy with it though!
John - will rev1.5 sticks overclock as high as the rev2s at cas2 timing? (
What's the "purported" advantage then of the rev2 versus rev1.5 sticks?
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What's the "purported" advantage then of the rev2 versus rev1.5 sticks?
Free shipping too, hmmm... I can resist anything but temptation. 
I caved, maybe I'll be able to squeeze 1008 out of this p3-700 now
I caved, maybe I'll be able to squeeze 1008 out of this p3-700 now
I believe the reason to spend the extra on the Rev.2 is almost guaranteed higher speed than 133. The Rev. 1.5 MAY hit higher speeds but almost everyone agrees that the Rev.2 is good to 160.
Here is what Senior Member, PerryTexan said in the old "Mushkin Rev.2 group buy" thread:
"...With regard to your question about rev1.5 vs. rev2.0--I contacted Mushkin about this very issue, and they told me that the v1.5 was guaranteed to 133MHz at 2-2-2, but above that, it will have to run at least 3-2-2 (which is what I have it running at in one of my machines at home @137MHz FSB), and above that, it may need to be run at 3-3-3.
The rev 2.0 version WILL run 2-2-2 all the way up to 166MHz, at least according to some reviewers' web sites; what this basically means is that if you can run your RAM timings at 2-2-2@133MHz FSB, then the performance is equal to a higher FSB speed at 3-3-3 (such as the 143MHz FSB example given by one of the hardware sites that reviewed rev 2.0).
I purchased the rev 2.0 stick to replace the rev 1.5 I have, and it should allow me to overclock somewhat more than what I currently am able to do--perhaps get me to the magical 1.0GHz mark (I'm currently running at 960MHz, so I need to be able to run at 143MHz to get there), and run it at a greater performance than if I were running at 3-3-3 on the memory timings.
This is GREAT MEMORY from a Great Company; all of my dealings have been great, and you can't beat the customer service, tech support and the special packaging they send the RAM to you in. It is money well spent, in my humble (but of course, biased) opinion...."
-Ed
Here is what Senior Member, PerryTexan said in the old "Mushkin Rev.2 group buy" thread:
"...With regard to your question about rev1.5 vs. rev2.0--I contacted Mushkin about this very issue, and they told me that the v1.5 was guaranteed to 133MHz at 2-2-2, but above that, it will have to run at least 3-2-2 (which is what I have it running at in one of my machines at home @137MHz FSB), and above that, it may need to be run at 3-3-3.
The rev 2.0 version WILL run 2-2-2 all the way up to 166MHz, at least according to some reviewers' web sites; what this basically means is that if you can run your RAM timings at 2-2-2@133MHz FSB, then the performance is equal to a higher FSB speed at 3-3-3 (such as the 143MHz FSB example given by one of the hardware sites that reviewed rev 2.0).
I purchased the rev 2.0 stick to replace the rev 1.5 I have, and it should allow me to overclock somewhat more than what I currently am able to do--perhaps get me to the magical 1.0GHz mark (I'm currently running at 960MHz, so I need to be able to run at 143MHz to get there), and run it at a greater performance than if I were running at 3-3-3 on the memory timings.
This is GREAT MEMORY from a Great Company; all of my dealings have been great, and you can't beat the customer service, tech support and the special packaging they send the RAM to you in. It is money well spent, in my humble (but of course, biased) opinion...."
-Ed
I have some revision 1.5 stuff 256MB and I'll just say 2-2-2 @144 (x6) on the MSI-BX master. The board clears 150 no problem and according to the LED diagnostics the memory passes this setting no prob and it's my processor which is holding me back. Awesome company, and if RAM goes bad on you they replace it and even send out a FedEx return receipt so all you have to do is take it to your local FedEx and ship it out without paying a dime for shipping!!
I'm willing to split the price with someone on the RAM...I only have enough for one stick and I'm good to go. E-mail and I'll send money order, or "payp@l" ya on this deal.
I'm willing to split the price with someone on the RAM...I only have enough for one stick and I'm good to go. E-mail and I'll send money order, or "payp@l" ya on this deal.
The free shipping was automatic when I placed my order, a little before midnight. Neither the free shipping or the rev1.5 memory sale appear on the web page any longer.
The sale is still there, just not the free shipping. The total in my shopping cart was $288 w/ fedex 2day. If only I had the cash to push the buy button.
It's still listed under the PC133 section. I got this same RAM a few months ago. All I can say is it will do 2-2-2 @ 133 solid in my mobo. I have problems if I go any higher, but that's probably from my CPU or the mobo itself. I paid $160 x 2 sticks with no special. But I had returned a single 256 meg stick which wouldn't do the 2-2-2 @ 133 and they were extremely cool about it. I highly recommend dealing with these folks. BTW, maybe someone should point out to them that two 2-stick specials are a better deal than the one 4-stick special. I doubt they'd try to pull anything like that intentially, probably just an oversight.
But I had returned a single 256 meg stick which wouldn't do the 2-2-2 @ 133 and they were extremely cool about it. I highly recommend dealing with these folks. BTW, maybe someone should point out to them that two 2-stick specials are a better deal than the one 4-stick special. I doubt they'd try to pull anything like that intentially, probably just an oversight.HEYYY--I got quoted!! ;-{)}
OK, here's my experiences in addition to my post--I had a stick of Mushkin v1.5 installed with my cB0 P3 700, and the BEST I could do with is was 137MHz @ 3-3-3.
I installed the Mushkin v2.0, and after a few trials to determine what I COULD run, I was able to run it at 142MHz at 2-2-2 (which gives me 993MHz, and was for the most part stable; at times, there are a few "quirks", but for the most part it is rock stable at that speed--when I reduce the speed to 140MHz FSB & 2-2-2, all of the minor "quirks" disappear; this is the speed I now run at ALL the time).
This should easily illustrate the differences between the two, as far as what you can run them at, and at what CAS settings. NOTE--a stick of PC133 SDRAM has been found to be faster running 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2 than one running at 142MHz @ CAS 3-3-3, and since the price difference between the v1.5 & the v2.0 was $30, I should have purchased the v2.0 originally, or purchased a generic brand for less.
Even though I thoroughly am impressed with everything that Mushkin is (great tech support & customer service, prompt shipping that does NOT price-gouge, and probably the best packaging for SDRAM that I've seen), when it comes to buying the v1.5 SDRAM, I don't feel it is a good purchase if you plan to run more than 133FSB.
Why do I say this? Well, it WILL run CAS 2-2-2 at 133MHz FSB, but above that, it is an "iffy" proposition, so if all you are going to do is run it at that speed, and want the fasted SDRAM, there are probably other vendors out there that have sticks that will run CAS 2-2-2 as well, and are not as expensive, and they may even run CAS 2-2-2 at a HIGHER FSB speed; they certainly will run CAS 3-3-3 above 133MHz FSB, and at ~$40-$60 less than the Mushkin, they are far more cost-effective.
If you are looking at a GUARANTEED 133FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, and don't plan to go any higher, then this is the RAM for you. If you're something of a gambler, and want to see if you can get more than 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, I would suggest a less expensive stick of RAM. If you want MORE than 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, you will almost certainly need the v2.0 SDRAM (or some other vendor's equivalent).
I have used both, and know the limitations of the v1.5 compared to the 2.0. I am unable to run my v2.0 stick reliably past 142MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, but that's probably due to the components I have, and not the RAM; however, I was only able to get a BEST of 137MHz FSB out of the v1.5, and THAT was at CAS 3-3-3, and that was with the very same components!!
Bottom line here is this--it's good RAM, but it's slightly overpriced for the performance above 133MHz(the v1.5, that is), when compared to the other vendors out there, including Kingston, PNY, and a bunch of generic brands--even at the $143.50/stick quoted. For an additional few dollars above that price, you get MUCH better RAM, or for a lot less (~$40-$60/stick), you can get some other vendor's RAM that will perform just as well; SO--it really isn't a good buy, unless all you want is 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, and won't be trying to run it at 2-2-2 at any higher bus speeds.
OK, here's my experiences in addition to my post--I had a stick of Mushkin v1.5 installed with my cB0 P3 700, and the BEST I could do with is was 137MHz @ 3-3-3.
I installed the Mushkin v2.0, and after a few trials to determine what I COULD run, I was able to run it at 142MHz at 2-2-2 (which gives me 993MHz, and was for the most part stable; at times, there are a few "quirks", but for the most part it is rock stable at that speed--when I reduce the speed to 140MHz FSB & 2-2-2, all of the minor "quirks" disappear; this is the speed I now run at ALL the time).
This should easily illustrate the differences between the two, as far as what you can run them at, and at what CAS settings. NOTE--a stick of PC133 SDRAM has been found to be faster running 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2 than one running at 142MHz @ CAS 3-3-3, and since the price difference between the v1.5 & the v2.0 was $30, I should have purchased the v2.0 originally, or purchased a generic brand for less.
Even though I thoroughly am impressed with everything that Mushkin is (great tech support & customer service, prompt shipping that does NOT price-gouge, and probably the best packaging for SDRAM that I've seen), when it comes to buying the v1.5 SDRAM, I don't feel it is a good purchase if you plan to run more than 133FSB.
Why do I say this? Well, it WILL run CAS 2-2-2 at 133MHz FSB, but above that, it is an "iffy" proposition, so if all you are going to do is run it at that speed, and want the fasted SDRAM, there are probably other vendors out there that have sticks that will run CAS 2-2-2 as well, and are not as expensive, and they may even run CAS 2-2-2 at a HIGHER FSB speed; they certainly will run CAS 3-3-3 above 133MHz FSB, and at ~$40-$60 less than the Mushkin, they are far more cost-effective.
If you are looking at a GUARANTEED 133FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, and don't plan to go any higher, then this is the RAM for you. If you're something of a gambler, and want to see if you can get more than 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, I would suggest a less expensive stick of RAM. If you want MORE than 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, you will almost certainly need the v2.0 SDRAM (or some other vendor's equivalent).
I have used both, and know the limitations of the v1.5 compared to the 2.0. I am unable to run my v2.0 stick reliably past 142MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, but that's probably due to the components I have, and not the RAM; however, I was only able to get a BEST of 137MHz FSB out of the v1.5, and THAT was at CAS 3-3-3, and that was with the very same components!!
Bottom line here is this--it's good RAM, but it's slightly overpriced for the performance above 133MHz(the v1.5, that is), when compared to the other vendors out there, including Kingston, PNY, and a bunch of generic brands--even at the $143.50/stick quoted. For an additional few dollars above that price, you get MUCH better RAM, or for a lot less (~$40-$60/stick), you can get some other vendor's RAM that will perform just as well; SO--it really isn't a good buy, unless all you want is 133MHz FSB @ CAS 2-2-2, and won't be trying to run it at 2-2-2 at any higher bus speeds.
what has been mushkin's history w/ sales? do they come up often? i'm figuring out if i should buy it @ 277, and figure out a way to pay for it later, or if later there will be a good deal.
well, I'm running rev1.5 ram at 137mhz 2-2-2 with no problems, although i guess it doesn't matter since the sale seems to be over..
(i have not tried higher speeds)
(i have not tried higher speeds)
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