Murtha named in defamation suit

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd be willing to bet that DonVito is the only one in this thread who knows WTF he's talking about. The rest are just lining up to hurl insults at each other:laugh:

And you are? :laugh:

Just another clown like you!:thumbsup:

 

[Todd33]

Attorneys for Frank D. Wuterich, 26, argue in court papers that Murtha tarnished the Marine's reputation by telling news organizations in May that the Marine unit cracked after a roadside bomb killed one of its members and that the troops "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha also said repeatedly that the incident was covered up.

So the guy, who did participate in the slaughter and is guilty by all reports, is suing Murtha who said nothing untrue? My next question is which swiftboat right wing org is financing and orchestrating this lawsuit?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
For the record, since I didn't see them here anywhere, here is what Murtha initially said:

Murtha, a vocal opponent of the war in Iraq, said at a news conference Wednesday that sources within the military have told him that an internal investigation will show that "there was no firefight, there was no IED (improvised explosive device) that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

Now that the investigation has wound down, on what grounds does this marine have to stand on as far as libel? Murtha didn't name him personally and the investigation has basically found what he said to be accurate.

Not much really, he's just blowing some smoke.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Attorneys for Frank D. Wuterich, 26, argue in court papers that Murtha tarnished the Marine's reputation by telling news organizations in May that the Marine unit cracked after a roadside bomb killed one of its members and that the troops "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha also said repeatedly that the incident was covered up.

So the guy, who did participate in the slaughter and is guilty by all reports, is suing Murtha who said nothing untrue? My next question is which swiftboat right wing org is financing and orchestrating this lawsuit?

As I said, I think this is a misguided effort to stave off criminal charges, or to at least create an appellate issue if the Marine plaintiffs are convicted.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Good for them. Murtha is a disgrace.

Yeah, just like Max Cleeland.

You deserve this :

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DonVito
It's a pretty thin claim from a legal standpoint IMO.

My feeling is that the plaintiffs' attorneys are trying to set the stage for a defense based on the idea that if the Marines are prosecuted, it was done vindictively based on their slander claim (in fact another article I read contained a quote from one of the lawyers speculating that the Marines might be charged based on the filing of the suit). If that's what they have in mind, I regard it as a deeply faulty strategy based on these civilian attorneys' failure to understand the military justice system. Civilian attorneys frequently labor under serious misapprehensions about military justice in my experience . . .

I agree, unless Murtha specifically named the guy as a murder or child killer, I dont think this guys claim has much merit.

However it doesnt keep him from filing the suit and I cant say I wont smile when Murtha squirms a little.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Genx87


However it doesnt keep him from filing the suit and I cant say I wont smile when Murtha squirms a little.

Spoken like a true partisan hack. Truth isn't important, just attacking the other side.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87


However it doesnt keep him from filing the suit and I cant say I wont smile when Murtha squirms a little.

Spoken like a true partisan hack. Truth isn't important, just attacking the other side.

When it comes to Murtha or the other leftwinged whackjobs, guilty as charged.

Sue me

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Genx87

When it comes to Murtha or the other leftwinged whackjobs, guilty as charged.

Sue me

As far as I can see, the conservatives never had any interest in Murtha (a moderate Democrat and 35-year Marine Corps vet) until he started criticizing the war. Do you think the war was a good idea, or are you just angry with him out of orneriness?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Genx87

When it comes to Murtha or the other leftwinged whackjobs, guilty as charged.

Sue me

As far as I can see, the conservatives never had any interest in Murtha (a moderate Democrat and 35-year Marine Corps vet) until he started criticizing the war. Do you think the war was a good idea, or are you just angry with him out of orneriness?

Not angry with him at all, annoyed is more like it. Like the rest of the people he has associated himself with like Kerry, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid.

Nobody has any interest in the other side until the open their traps. The left jumped down a moderate republican Norm Coleman from MN for having the audacity to go after some socialist from England about the UN Food for Oil scam.

It is the name of the game in politics.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87


However it doesnt keep him from filing the suit and I cant say I wont smile when Murtha squirms a little.

Spoken like a true partisan hack. Truth isn't important, just attacking the other side.

When it comes to Murtha or the other leftwinged whackjobs, guilty as charged.

Sue me

What position do you disagree with him on? He has been a military hawk his whole life and has always voted for funding. It's universally agreed Iraq is a debacle and he wanted to change the status quo. He calls for a redeployment in the region, which is supported by a majority of voters. Or is it this thing in the OT? Let me guess you equate Murtha's pointing out the multiple tour extensions, over stress conditions and poor planning to "attacking the troops"? Too much Hannity and Rush in your diet? I suspect he has been swiftboated for months now and you eat it all up. Maybe you put your money on the wrong horse and you should change your stance like the rest of the reasonable Americans? You are part of an every shrinking minority.

 

[kage69]

Geez, the amount of hate being slung Murtha's way, you'd think he was the one who executed innocent civilians...

Speaks volumes that some here seem to be more riled over a shakey case of slander than the actual killings involved.

This is a man who spent decades serving as a Marine himself - he of all people knows the stress of combat. He just doesn't want another My Lai.

I think that is exactly the case. :thumbsup: People screeching about slander would do well to consider how slanderous it would be for the rest of the Corps to get dragged through the mud over sham investigations and cover-ups. Fake justice isn't something to be proud of. The only way to really mitigate the PR damage this causes overseas is to demonstrate the rule of law applies to us as well.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: daniel49

Sue away. Tie the courts up with more frivilous lawsuits
Hire Don vito he believes in you.

Way to drag me into a discussion I had exactly nothing to do with. I am the one who is discouraging a frivolous lawsuit in this case, while Pabster lobbies in support of one. I am also, I am quite sure, the only member of this discussion licensed to practice in a military court or with any real-world experience with the military justice system . . .

Probably, but I am sure most of the other pundits have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express<commercial plug>.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong


And for the record....Murtha was just giving his opinion on the information that was fed to him from the DoD (falsely I might add).

You might add, but you'd be wrong. The DOD investigation fully backs up what Murtha said, and these soldiers will be going to trial for war crimes.

Oh, and the "false info from the DOD" is only an allegation in the defamation suit. Where is your precious "innocent until proven quilty" stand now?

 

[Harvey]

Anyone wanting to tell Sergeant Wuterich's attorneys what they think about this suit can do it here:

Mark S. Zaid
ZaidMS@aol.com

Neal A. Puckett
napuckett@comcast.net

 

[DealMonkey]

What did Murtha say that wasn't true?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Anyone wanting to tell Sergeant Wuterich's attorneys what they think about this suit can do it here:

Mark S. Zaid
ZaidMS@aol.com

Neal A. Puckett
napuckett@comcast.net

Well done sir.

:beer:

 

[Pens1566]

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But Murtha is the "disgrace"? :roll: