Mumble Vs. Vent and thoughts

[Moonzi]

My buddy and I are starting a host service for Mumble. Was curious what everyone thought so far:

https://www.mumbleserverhost.com/

I used Vent for years with WoW but Mumble seems leaps and bounds better to me. Playing Rift and FPS with the noise cancellation and amplitude set for voice activation it's a lot more customizable. Looking for both positive and negative feedback and general debate on this.

 

[KaOTiK]

Only ever used Vent really. Has never given me problems far as I can remember and it seems to be the dominate voice program out there for gamers, I'm pretty sure everyone has it installed that does any serious multiplayer lol.

I've heard good things about Mumble, but I have never had to use it or came across anyone that has used it either (outside of forums)

 

[Aikouka]

Only ever used Vent really. Has never given me problems far as I can remember and it seems to be the dominate voice program out there for gamers, I'm pretty sure everyone has it installed that does any serious multiplayer lol.

I've heard good things about Mumble, but I have never had to use it or came across anyone that has used it either (outside of forums)

The problem with something like Mumble is that eventually a chat program becomes "standard" for a game. In WoW, vent is pretty much the standard for PUG runs; however, a guild may choose whatever chat program it wants.

In other words, stick to the most common choice if you tend to play with random people. Oddly enough, people are very apprehensive to getting a new client.

 

[Dankk]

I can attest to Mumble's greatness. When I started playing Battlefield: BC2 a few months ago, I played on the Reddit server and they use their own mumble channel. Sound quality is fantastic. Features are great. Very intuitive to configure. As far as I can see, it's the best chat program out there.

 

[Moonzi]

That's the war I had with my guild in the beginning. I was paying for the vent server though so it was pretty much contribute or come on over. Not a single person offered to pay, everyone came over and no one has complained. In face it's taken over skype for arenas as well for a number of us.

 

[Moonzi]

I most enjoy the low latency and price though

 

[Lightflash]

Mumble is much better than Vent IMO just due to the latency difference. Mumble is much quicker and easier to configure as well as normally cheaper.But like Aikouka said, Vent is the default VOIP used and people can be very weird about downloading the Mumble client. However the people that have used it after finally getting it have enjoyed it more than Vent.

 

[ImpulsE69]

In LOL sometimes it can be difficult...many ppl have not even heard of Vent. Likewise, quite a few apparently use Skype, which I've never used for anything ;p

 

[Worthington]

We switched to mumble recently and I dislike it. To each their own I suppose.

I'd rather have Vent and have to configure some of the settings myself then have Mumble just do it and have it not be done correctly.

 

[Moonzi]

? under settings once you click the advanced option on the bottom it's completely configurable.

 

[Worthington]

Not to the same extent that Vent is. Or at least not that I've discovered. Mumbles "auto-tuning" for loudness is terrible in my experience, nor can you assign different compressions to different people. If Mumble did a better job auto-adjusting then it wouldn't be necessary which would be awesome. But it doesn't do a good job.

And as a pet peeve I have yet to discover how to edit the phonetics for names. Some of the way things get pronounced are... interesting. Which wouldn't be an issue if I could change it myself.

Maybe you can do these things, but I haven't seen how. In general, overall my guild is not happy with it's performance. But they are happy with it's costs.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Never heard of mumble before, but I have been running a vent server instance for several years now ... just a small one to hold up to 8 people....

Anybody know how mumble compares to vent as far as bandwidth usage? Vent can be pretty efficient with some codecs... I assume mumble is similar?

maybe it's time to upgrade ... hehehe

 

[ioni]

Oddly enough, people are very apprehensive to getting a new client.

Probably because most people run on shit computers and if they alt+tab out to d/l a new client, they'll crash.

 

[skace]

So any power users of Vent care to comment on pros/cons vs mumble? Otherwise tag so I can check it out later.

 

[Aikouka]

So any power users of Vent care to comment on pros/cons vs mumble? Otherwise tag so I can check it out later.

The biggest con of vent that I've always heard is voice quality and how TS3 and Mumble are far better in that department. I've paid for a TS3 server in the past, and it was interesting, but pretty unstable (in my opinion). I recall one time when my friend and I were in SC2, and all of a sudden, he got kicked off, and then I got kicked off. We couldn't get back in, and we had to use my vent server instead. I don't recall there being a noted server problem, so it was most likely some TS3 snafu.

I haven't had any personal Mumble use though. TS3 was cool in one aspect... I could actually configure my server (add rooms, etc) right through the client. It's kind of a pain to change vent stuff around, because you have to use a clunky web interface and then reset the server. It's such a hassle :\.

 

[Ben90]

Vent has waaaay too much delay to make this debatable.

 

[skace]

Vent has waaaay too much delay to make this debatable.

Isn't Vent delay based off of your ms response time to the Vent server itself?

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Isn't Vent delay based off of your ms response time to the Vent server itself?

No vent buffers about 100ms of stream regardless of latency to server.


I can see all the advantages mumble has but I still prefer Vent for a lot of reasons. The main one being aversion to change. =p Vent does feel cleaner though.
I don't know about a mumble hosting company though. It seems like most people use it because it's free.

 

[Maximilian]

Why dosent anyone use teamspeak?

 

[KaOTiK]

I've used TS a few times (due to Eve) and just dont like it

 

[bunnyfubbles]

between teamspeak3 and mumble there's little excuse to use vent outside of laziness

 

[blamb425]

My guild recently switched to Mumble because our Vent subscription was running out, one of our members owned a Mumble server, and we just figured we'd give it a shot..

*Voice quality is definitely clearer with Mumble
*Overlay can be nice, but it is a DEFINITE toll on your PC's resources
*Easier to register your username with the server than with Vent
*No clicking/beeping sound on push-to-talk, which I miss with Vent

While I do prefer it to Vent, I think Vent's interface is much more clean and user-friendly, on top of being the preferred VoIP of most gamers.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Vent is a joke when it comes to user friendliness, the only reason it might be seem easier to some is because they were forced to fumble through it years ago when Vent took over in popularity from TeamSpeak2 due to vastly superior voice quality.

Now Vent lags behind in just about every category (quality, performance, ease of use, features) and only continues to remain popular or "the preferred VoIP of most gamers" is because people are lazy and don't like change.

 

[ImpulsE69]

OMG I hate TS, I never understood the "quality" debate because I've always found TS to be laggy and not good voice quality at all compared to vent. Guess it just depends where you're at.

 

[Maximilian]

Well maybe im the exception but i always use steam chat It works about 85% of the time :thumbsup: