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Multimedia and Gaming Rig

SolemnOstrich

Junior Member
1- My computer will be used for photoshop/gaming/watching movies and anime on my flatscreen

I'll be playing the latest games generally, battlefield 4, and anything new that comes up, I currently play Skyrim and Farcry and would want something that could play both games on ultra with at least 40 fps

2- My budget is around 1600

3- I'll be buying parts from the us

4- Amazon and Newegg

5- I'm thinking of AMD but I'm hearing Nvidia is much faster at the same price points

6- No current parts

7- Overclocking

8- 1920x1080

9- Planning to build in about a month

x - I'm thinking of running windows 7 dual booted with linux as my main

I've been to pcspecialist.co.uk to get a general idea of parts and I came up with. I'm just unsure of whether or not this is a build capable of handling my gaming needs, or more so, if those parts are up to par.

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quote-save/


With a euro conversion it came to be around 1500 usd but I'm assuming it would be cheaper because someone wouldn't be building it for me.
 
As far as I can tell, that link doesn't actually share your choices with us.

Could you just list the parts you chose?
 
amd fx core 8350 eight core 4.0ghz

asus crosshair v formula z

8gb ddr kingston

3gb amd radeon hd7970

120gb SSD drive from kingston

3TB HDD

650w fsp raider series

corsair h80i hydro series performance

aero cool touch 2000 lcd touch screen 4 fan controller

pcs maelstrom t900 black gaming case
 
Much of this is excessive spending that doesn't add much, and there are some places which are lacking in quality. First of all, the motherboard is far too expensive and doesn't offer many extra features over a $150 motherboard. You afford to get can get a much better SSD with this level of budget. The PSU is okay, but you can probably get a better one for the price. All AIO coolers are overpriced for their performance when compared to air coolers; that particular fan controller is okay, but not really necessary. The case is not widely reviewed and isn't particularly easy to get. I'd do something more like this:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($307.58 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($112.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($106.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($170.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($128.44 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($61.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.91 @ Amazon)
Total: $1527.60
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-26 19:10 EDT-0400)
 
I quoted the UK site because I was new to buying parts and had been trying to make a build based from parts they had. I'm from the US however.
 
I'd suggest getting the Windows 7 Professional OEM edition since it supports more than 16 GBs RAM, which is useful if your Photoshop tasks are intense ones.
 
I went to Pcpartpicker - cool site btw and I made my own to see if I could get even lower for the price. The way I shopped was for the best parts for the best price via customer ratings and I came up with this. I wont be using windows because I use linux with crossover for photoshop/WoW/Sims/Multimedia in general. The price is a bit higher still because I added a sound card and a built in wifi as well

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10wZZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10wZZ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10wZZ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.82 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($278.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Audigy SE 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Sound Card: Rosewill RC-701 Sound Card ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-G300LX 802.11b/g PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1182.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 17:56 EDT-0400)

This one actually is my monitor/mouse/keyboard and everything
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10xjm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10xjm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10xjm/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.82 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($278.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Rosewill RC-701 Sound Card ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-G300LX 802.11b/g PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS208N-P 20.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: ROCCAT Arvo Wired Gaming Keyboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Gear Head MP2650BLU Wireless Optical Mouse ($12.15 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20097 6W 2ch Speakers ($8.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1335.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 18:09 EDT-0400)
 
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The i7 3770k at Microcenter is in-store pickup only, so if you do not have one close you need to come up with another part selection there (and maybe a new Mobo if you decide to go with AMD). You could however swap the 3770k for a 3570k from Newegg for $220.
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.82 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card ($278.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Rosewill RC-701 Sound Card ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-G300LX 802.11b/g PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Stallion 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS208N-P 20.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: ROCCAT Arvo Wired Gaming Keyboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Gear Head MP2650BLU Wireless Optical Mouse ($12.15 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20097 6W 2ch Speakers ($8.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1335.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 18:09 EDT-0400)

There's some issues with this build:
- CPU: In-store only price as has been noted
- HSF: OK
- Mobo: Too expensive for a single-GPU build. Stick with the Gigabyte that SF recommended.
- RAM: OK, but really you want the 16GB that SF suggested for Photoshop.
- SSD: Too small and a bad deal compared to the Samsung 840 120GB @ $100.
- HDD: OK, but 4TB drives are still kind of unreliable. I'd get a 3TB 7200RPM drive for $130 AP.
- GPU: Old and crazy overpriced. I can definitely see preferring Nvidia for Linux, but you should get something from the current generation. Given the games you listed, the GTX 660 will work great for you.
- Sound Card: About on par with the chip built into the mobo, skip it.
- Wifi: You probably want a PCIe x1 card like this Rosewill.
- PSU: Rosewill makes some quality PSUs now. This is not one of them. Get XFX that SF recommended.
- ODD: OK
- Monitor: OK, but too small for a machine of this price IMHO. I'd get a 23" IPS like this Dell S2340L for $153 AP.
- Mouse/KB: Whatever you like
- Speakers: You get what you pay for. They will make noise, that's about it.
 
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For audio output, you may be better off with something like the Monoprice 8323 over the ear headphones (think the big Beats) for about $25 or the Monoprice 8320 in-ear monitors (AKA IEMs; think like Apple earbuds, but with a silicone tip) for $12 and shipping.

Those have both been noted as exceptionally good products for their price. Some are even willing to say that they match $50 earphones/IEMs.
 
This will be my first time so I guess I need to ask more questions. Ill be playing the latest and more demanding games constantly so I need a machine of that caliber so...

-top 5 parts most of my budget should go to?
-which brands should I prioritize?
- 8gb or 16gb of ddr?
-what type of cpu/gpu/mobo should I be looking at?
-Is PcPartPicker my best resource and if so should i use them to pick my parts and refer to here to make sure I get the best bang for my buck?


I'm definitely going to go for
-main HDD being SSD
-1 or 2 HDD that are sata to store games and movies
-some way to connect to a flatscreen tv to watch movies
-overclocking and underclocking if possible

I want something high performing for gaming, photoshop is a hobby, and watching movies and shows will happen as much as gaming. I'm very very new to building a pc so at first I thought my choices were okay but I need to be enlightened.
 
-top 5 parts most of my budget should go to?
1. GPU(s)
2. CPU
3. motherboard
4. SSD
5. everything else

-which brands should I prioritize?
I would suggest not to be too fussy about brands. Judge each product as what it is instead of what it reads on the label

8gb or 16gb of ddr?
8GB is enough for your uses. RAM is expensive right now so I'd not get 16GB "just because". Can always add more later
-what type of cpu/gpu/mobo should I be looking at?
On that budget, I'd get a 4770K, a midrange Z87 board with decent overclockability, and a GTX 770.

Since you're a newbie, don't bother with SLI/Crossfire support on the motherboard and PSU. Just stick to using one fast card and upgrade it every 1-2 years to keep on top of the performance requirements. Upgrade the CPU every 2-3 generations, depending on how CPU limited your framerates happen to be and how much each generation has improved from the last
-Is PcPartPicker my best resource and if so should i use them to pick my parts and refer to here to make sure I get the best bang for my buck?
Yeah, PCPartpicker is a pretty good site. I use it all the time for exactly that purpose

I'm definitely going to go for
-main HDD being SSD
-1 or 2 HDD that are sata to store games and movies
-some way to connect to a flatscreen tv to watch movies
-overclocking and underclocking if possible
1. SSD is not a HDD. HDD stands for hard disk drive, and SSD stands for solid state drive, it is not a hard disk. Good plan tho
2. On your budget I would get a 256GB SSD to store games on (along with the operating system, ofc), and a single 1-2TB hard disk for the rest. You shouldn't need to install any games on the HDD, at least not any of those you're actively playing. Remember that you can always move a game from one disk to another without having to reinstall it, just use symbolic links
3. The graphics card will have HDMI output
4. Overclocking is a good idea, you will need aftermarket cooling for the CPU, and the GPU will be fine with the stock cooler. Underclocking is not for you, you're not looking to save power at the expense of performance.

I want something high performing for gaming, photoshop is a hobby, and watching movies and shows will happen as much as gaming. I'm very very new to building a pc so at first I thought my choices were okay but I need to be enlightened.
Before I recommend a build for you - is there a microcenter anywhere close to you?
 
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This will be my first time so I guess I need to ask more questions. Ill be playing the latest and more demanding games constantly so I need a machine of that caliber so...

-top 5 parts most of my budget should go to?
CPU, GPU.

Which should get more than the other depends.

Fast-paced games will make mostly use of the GPU, but can take advantage of better CPUs, usually. They're after high framerates, and a CPU bottleneck cannot be gotten around so easily as a GPU one, so they tend to be lighter on the CPU, at any given time. IoW, going from a $175 to $250 video card would get you more than going from $175 to $250 CPU.

Strategy, from Starcraft II to Civ V to Dwarf Fortress and clones, will make use of mostly the CPU's top few speeds, including the Turbo speed.

Photoshop will use all the CPU you can throw at it, in speed or cores, and once you're beyond IGP, the GPU practically ceases to matter.

The rest is too dependent on other factors. An SSD, FI, costs more if you want more space. So, how much of the budget should that be?

More than anything, you just want to not skimp or overpay for the rest. But, CPU and GPU are where you pay more to get more performance.

which brands should I prioritize?
Varies.
Mobos: Asus, Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI, Biostar, Foxconn, Intel. My preferences go in that order. ASRock and MSI sometimes do a bit more penny pinching than I would like, on their lower-end boards, though they're higher-end boards are as good as anybody else's.

Video cards: Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, eVGA, and Sapphire (used to be ATI's OEM, back then they had branded cards) are generally top-notch.

SSDs: Samsung, Plextor (Liteon are Plextor), Crucial, Intel.

RAM: Crucial, Kingston, A-Data, G.Skill, and others...

8gb or 16gb of ddr?
16, as 2x8GB, with room to expand. Just make sure to stick to 1.5V rated RAM, or lower. With a new Intel CPU, faster RAM nets you so little as to not be worth bothering with.

what type of cpu/gpu/mobo should I be looking at?
Brand spanking new LGA1150 i5-4xxx, i7-4xxx, and E3-12xxV3, paired with an 8-series motherboard. With overclocking in mind, that leaves the i7-4770K and i5-4670K.

Is PcPartPicker my best resource and if so should i use them to pick my parts and refer to here to make sure I get the best bang for my buck?
Best single resource? Yes. However, due to shipping and combos, it is often better to by from only a couple places, usually Newegg and Amazon. My method is generally to price everything at Newegg, find good combos or promos, and then see if Amazon has any non-combo items cheaper (the last step I skip when I'm not actually buying--like in threads like these--since it takes so long to search/browse Amazon). Amazon often has combos with savings on PC parts, too, but I find it too annoying to look for them if they haven't been posted in a deal forum/blog somewhere, due to their website's clutter and all.

I'm definitely going to go for
-main HDD being SSD
-1 or 2 HDD that are sata to store games and movies
When looking at those, you won't be able to tell the difference in performance betwen a Samsung 840, Plextor M5, Crucial M500, or Corsair Neutron. Samsung has been pricing aggressively, recently, so you'll see the most recommendations for theirs.
-some way to connect to a flatscreen tv to watch movies
-overclocking and underclocking if possible
Underclocking may be hard to find (really, just undervolting), but you really just need to get an Intel CPU, and good cooler, today (such as the one SF linked). You can get 95% of what you could have gotten from underclocking by adjusting the max processor state in your power settings.

If you have an HDMI on the video card, which is hard not to get, today, it will hook up to your TV. Many TVs also have DVI, too.

I want something high performing for gaming, photoshop is a hobby, and watching movies and shows will happen as much as gaming. I'm very very new to building a pc so at first I thought my choices were okay but I need to be enlightened.
Photoshop and games are all that will be able to really stress your computer, for now. You will be better off, IMO, putting more of your budget into a monitor, then getting the rest with what's left over, than going big. You will probably still have enough of a budget for a i7-4770K CPU, if you drop your video card down a little, like to a HD 7950.

Since you haven't ordered yet, wait a few days. Haswell just came out, is a decent step forward, and is in stock everywhere. Availability is likely going to be chaotic. But, it is faster, idles lower, and costs only a hair more (almost no more, if you were already going to get a Z-series motherboard).
 
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PCPartPicker does nothing but give you prices. It does not teach you anything about parts, which is why we see so many builds from that site that make no sense. Old parts, unreputable vendors, mismatched parts that all happen to be on sale, etc.

I applaud the slickness of the site, but the creator hasn't done enough to teach people how to use it.
 
1. GPU(s)
2. CPU
3. motherboard
4. SSD
5. everything else

I would suggest not to be too fussy about brands. Judge each product as what it is instead of what it reads on the label

8GB is enough for your uses. RAM is expensive right now so I'd not get 16GB "just because". Can always add more later
On that budget, I'd get a 4770K, a midrange Z87 board with decent overclockability, and a GTX 770.

Since you're a newbie, don't bother with SLI/Crossfire support on the motherboard and PSU. Just stick to using one fast card and upgrade it every 1-2 years to keep on top of the performance requirements. Upgrade the CPU every 2-3 generations, depending on how CPU limited your framerates happen to be and how much each generation has improved from the last
Yeah, PCPartpicker is a pretty good site. I use it all the time for exactly that purpose

1. SSD is not a HDD. HDD stands for hard disk drive, and SSD stands for solid state drive, it is not a hard disk. Good plan tho
2. On your budget I would get a 256GB SSD to store games on (along with the operating system, ofc), and a single 1-2TB hard disk for the rest. You shouldn't need to install any games on the HDD, at least not any of those you're actively playing. Remember that you can always move a game from one disk to another without having to reinstall it, just use symbolic links
3. The graphics card will have HDMI output
4. Overclocking is a good idea, you will need aftermarket cooling for the CPU, and the GPU will be fine with the stock cooler. Underclocking is not for you, you're not looking to save power at the expense of performance.

Before I recommend a build for you - is there a microcenter anywhere close to you?

I am close to a microcenter actually
 
I am close to a microcenter actually

Good! MC is continuing their tradition of CPU+Mobo combos with Haswell.

i5 4670K + ASRock Z87 Pro3 $290 @ MC
Team DDR3 1600 8GB $55
Sapphire 7970 GHz Ed. $380 AR
Plextor M5S 256GB $190
WD Blue 1TB $70
Lite-ON DVD Burner $15 AP
Rosewil Hive 650W $60 AR
Corsair 400R $100
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $100
LG 1080P IPS $160
Total: $1420 AR AP

That's about $180 shy of your goal, but I wasn't sure what other peripherals you needed. If you don't need any, you can grab a GTX 780 instead of the 7970.
 
Nice build.

you can grab a GTX 780 instead of the 7970.
Or a 4770K instead of 4670K. The OP did mention BF4 which will undoubtedly be heavily multithreaded in online large battles just like BF3, so the extra threads might help there more than the better GPU.

Also, an aftermarket cooler is needed if you want to OC from the get go.
 
Nice build.

Or a 4770K instead of 4670K. The OP did mention BF4 which will undoubtedly be heavily multithreaded in online large battles just like BF3, so the extra threads might help there more than the better GPU.

Also, an aftermarket cooler is needed if you want to OC from the get go.

:thumbsup:
 
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