Multi hub/AP network question

CM44

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Hello all

I've got a little out of touch with so need a little help, does anyone know if any of this is possible or have any other suggestions for the setup I have below please?

Modem Router (SSID1)>Hub1>Hub2>WiFi Access Point (SSID2)
>IP camera (tenvis)
>NAS (music & HD video streaming)

Excuse the basic illustration essentially my modem router provides a wireless network (SSID1) and wired to Hub 1 which is also connected to an IP cam & NAS. An Ethernet to the other side of the house connects Hub 1 to Hub 2. Hub 2 connects to several wired devices including a wifi AP/Repeater set broadcasting a separate (SSID2).

My problem is I cannot access the IP cam or NAS from (SSID2) as it’s classed as a separate network. Is it possible to get this to act as a single network. I would prefer if I could use the wired connection to the AP as a bridge rather than a WiFi to WiFi repeater. The broadband provider modem/ router only has 2 wired connections so I've used the hubs to add gigabit connections for streaming.

The WiFi AP is WLAE AG300N which as far as I can gather can bridge wireless to a wired receiving device but not as a wired bridge to wireless devices.
The hubs are netgear one unmanaged and the other is one of those media priority hubs. I'm assuming that if possible the config of these would be simple enough and that any problems would be to the limitations of the AP.

Does anyone have any suggestions how I can access content of the NAS and remote access to the IP cam on the second network (which is also my primary network due to how the internet etc comes into the house)
I will possibly be looking to upgrade my network soon since it’s feeling a little too messy so any suggestions of kit I would need would be appreciated too but still keeping gigabit connections for the more demanding streaming.

Regards
 

boomhower

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First get rid of the hubs and get switches. Switches are dirt cheap and perform a lot better than hubs with a lot of other bonuses. If you make the SSIS/security the same on both the router and AP they should act as a single network. Your devices likely won't switch to the stronger signal on their own reliably but the network should appear as a single one.
 

CM44

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Many thanks

I will try that tomorrow. My mistake the hubs are switches, didn't realise they were different. What I called hub 1 is a netgear GS501 and the GS605AV as hub 2, not that I've seen any benefit of QoS in getting the AV

Been playing around with this networking today, looks like I need to make the NAS & IP Cam static too.
The modem and AP can send several SSID so I suppose I could create more when I don't need to access everything to make sure I'm on the strongest although most of the time the signal is too weak even to find the other because of the distance between both rooms I have the transmitters in.
If it did become an issue would MAC filtering or disabling one signal to ensure I'm on the right one work or would this just confuse it?

Just changed my ISP so I will be buying some new kit to make sure I can get it to work for me.

Thanks again, much appreciated
 

boomhower

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You can only do so much with QoS. First you really need managed switches to do it right. Second, and more importantly, all you are really managing is QoS on your network. What your ISP is up to is a different matter and you have no control over that.

Just try it both ways. If they are that far apart then they may switch on their own. If you find that they are holding the weak signal and not switching use two different SSID's and manually switch them.

You router should be able to give static IP's very easily. Now if you need a static IP to your house then you will likely have to pay extra to your ISP or look at dyndns or a similar service.
 

Mushkins

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You can only do so much with QoS. First you really need managed switches to do it right. Second, and more importantly, all you are really managing is QoS on your network. What your ISP is up to is a different matter and you have no control over that.

You also need to know how to properly configure QoS, it's absolutely not a "click a button and it works" thing and misconfiguring QoS can bring a network to its knees.

Honestly, for things like IP cameras or VoIP phones proper vlanning is a big part of doing QoS well, but as Boomhower said all of that only matters on the LAN side. On the WAN side the ISP is going to treat it all the same anyway unless you've got a very expensive tier of business service.
 

boomhower

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Honestly, for things like IP cameras or VoIP phones proper vlanning is a big part of doing QoS well, but as Boomhower said all of that only matters on the LAN side. On the WAN side the ISP is going to treat it all the same anyway unless you've got a very expensive tier of business service.

I was thinking the opposite actually. Look at how many providers are paying for improved netflix access. What about those that don't? How many other services are being crippled on bandwidth?

*haven't kept up with the newer legislation so maybe this has changed.