Muisc Industry Steals $60 Billion...

[BladeVenom]

The music industry has stolen $60 billion worth of music, and that's just in Canada. I hope they lose the lawsuit and owe the full amount. I know they won't; they own too many politicians to have to obey or be accountable to the same laws as the average person. http://www.thestar.com/business/art...rd-industry-faces-liability-over-infringement

Now we see who is really stealing from the artists.

 

[StageLeft]

screw them

 

[ebaycj]

The music industry has stolen $60 billion worth of music, and that's just in Canada. I hope they lose the lawsuit and owe the full amount. I know they won't; they own too many politicians to have to obey or be accountable to the same laws as the average person. http://www.thestar.com/business/art...rd-industry-faces-liability-over-infringement

Now we see who is really stealing from the artists.

I hope they are liable for the full amount. Worthless greedy talentless fucks.

 

[Acanthus]

Wow, that method of coming up with insane damages turn around to bite them pretty hard.

Even if they follow the same policy and settle for 5% or less of that total figure, that is a massive sum of money.

 

[Schadenfroh]

screw them

qft

 

[MotF Bane]

Haha, I hope they get taken for the full figure. Fuck those assholes.

 

[BoberFett]

Take 'em down. The copyright cartel can burn in hell.

 

[dfuze]

I hope they don't settle with them and take them full amount using their own 20,000 per infringement against them.

 

[Zebo]

 

[Genx87]

Oh I am praying to the God of skinny punks they get smacked with their own outrageous damage claim.

 

[Patranus]

If they get hit with damages guess who gets to pay for it....It sure wont be the executive that is for sure.

 

[Corn]

If they get hit with damages guess who gets to pay for it....It sure wont be the executive that is for sure.

Don't be silly Patranus. Two lefty jokers in the following thread, http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2029747 claim that the costs of doing business (such as taxes) weigh very little when determining the pricing that the consumer pays. So relax.

 

[fallout man]

:awe::awe::awe::awe::awe:

 

[BladeVenom]

Don't be silly Patranus. Two lefty jokers in the following thread, http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2029747 claim that the costs of doing business (such as taxes) weigh very little when determining the pricing that the consumer pays. So relax.

But the RIAA and the big labels are just a bunch of useless middlemen. We'd all be better off if they went out of business.

 

[Zorba]

haha, i hope they get taken for the full figure. Fuck those assholes.

take 'em down. The copyright cartel can burn in hell.

i hope they don't settle with them and take them full amount using their own 20,000 per infringement against them.

qft

 

[Dari]

What about the caviar, Learjet, and mistresses? CEOs gotta eat. They gotta live.

 

[Craig234]

If they get hit with damages guess who gets to pay for it....It sure wont be the executive that is for sure.

Blind right-wing ideology.

You think we should never do anything to tax or fine companies because they never pay anything, they only 'pass the cost on to the consumer'?

That's a nice 10 year old level argument for opposing any 'liberal' policy to accomplish various goals, such as regulation, it doesn't hold up though.

First, companies can't just come up with new money for those things easily by raisnig prices. If they could, they would and put the money into profit. The expenses do affect their business, whether in reductions in other areas, lower profits, lower bonuses, wherever. When applied to one company it can hurt them against competitors.

Second, your dogma cherry picks one part of the circular economy. Do fines of indivifduals get paid by companies, not the individual, because the individual just spends that much less with companies?

The right wing dogmatakes a small truth that fines are sometimes felt by consumers. and exaggerates it into a falsehood that the fines are pointless because the companies painlessly put them in the price.

It's atrocious logic to oppose the ability of the public to hold any company accountable, and for that reason harnful to democracy and the public.

 

[bamacre]

Craig, his comment (as dumb as it is) has nothing to do with "right-wing ideology," and nothing to do with "fines and taxes." This is a civil lawsuit.

 

[Craig234]

Craig, his comment (as dumb as it is) has nothing to do with "right-wing ideology," and nothing to do with "fines and taxes." This is a civil lawsuit.

I disagree. You miss the point. In every topic it seems that involves a corporation being fined or taxes for some public purpose, one or more right-wing people can be counted on to say the right-wing tenent that the cost won't affect the company but only hurt consumers, implying if not saying all such acts are a bad policy. The topic might be taxes (we have plenty who call for zero business taxes because of this tenent), public policy fines such as for pollution, or consumer protection and regulatory laws.

The same tenent was parroted in this thread when he saw the topic of a company being penalized, like a knee-jerk reaction.

You are exactly wrong IMO in saying it's not a right-wing tenent. It is as I described in the countless posts on the topics I listed, and it got repeated in this topic.

That was my point, how it's so pervasive a tenen that it got parroted even here, spreading from the usual topics.

 

[Corn]

I disagree. You miss the point. In every topic it seems that involves a corporation being fined or taxes for some public purpose, one or more right-wing people can be counted on to say the right-wing tenent that the cost won't affect the company but only hurt consumers, implying if not saying all such acts are a bad policy. The topic might be taxes (we have plenty who call for zero business taxes because of this tenent), public policy fines such as for pollution, or consumer protection and regulatory laws.

The same tenent was parroted in this thread when he saw the topic of a company being penalized, like a knee-jerk reaction.

You are exactly wrong IMO in saying it's not a right-wing tenent. It is as I described in the countless posts on the topics I listed, and it got repeated in this topic.

That was my point, how it's so pervasive a tenen that it got parroted even here, spreading from the usual topics.

I don't know why I'm even bothering with this reply. I don't think that Patranus thinks a judgement against the CRIA for their behavior is bad policy--just that it is still the consumer who ends up getting screwed for someone else's bad behavior. The bottom line is that this industry is pretty darn near a monolopy and if you think that a 60 billion dollar judgement against the CRIA will not affect the consumer, I wold find it amazing if you don't have to concentrate just to breathe.

 

[PokerGuy]

Sweet. Hopefully the plaintiffs win and drive Warner Music Canada, Sony BMG Music Canada, EMI Music Canada, and Universal Music Canada out of business. That's how those crooks have gone after consumers, they should get a taste of their own medicine.

 

[Robor]

screw them

:thumbsup:

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I don't know why I'm even bothering with this reply. I don't think that Patranus thinks a judgement against the CRIA for their behavior is bad policy--just that it is still the consumer who ends up getting screwed for someone else's bad behavior. The bottom line is that this industry is pretty darn near a monolopy and if you think that a 60 billion dollar judgement against the CRIA will not affect the consumer, I wold find it amazing if you don't have to concentrate just to breathe.

If they could make more money by charging more, it wouldn't take a lawsuit to make them do it.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why do artists turn to these 'uncreative fucks' if they provide no value? See, it's the artists who fuck themselves because, instead of creating for the sake of art, they create for the sake of an income and the dreams of becoming rich and famous.

Yup, it is those fucking artists who are gladly and willingly fucking themselves, that are causing the problem, unless, as I do, you are one of those advanced humans, who blames people for wanting to listen to music and have creative content in their lives. I am one of those rare birds whose life is a creation that requires no input from others. I entertain myself and buy or pay for no music. I hear some free on NPR from time to time.

The problem with those who hate copyright laws are that they want something but they want it free, just like they expect the government to provide for the rest of their lives.

You're a bunch of addicts and get pissed off because you have to pay for your drugs.

So fuck you, fuck your music, fuck your need to be entertained, and fuck your need to be socially up to speed and listening to the latest circle jerk pop culture or whatever clique of music is your thing.

Self hate is a vacuum that can never be filled.

It is through the act of love that you fill the universe with meaning. Stop looking for it and start giving.

 

[ebaycj]

I don't know why I'm even bothering with this reply. I don't think that Patranus thinks a judgement against the CRIA for their behavior is bad policy--just that it is still the consumer who ends up getting screwed for someone else's bad behavior. The bottom line is that this industry is pretty darn near a monolopy and if you think that a 60 billion dollar judgement against the CRIA will not affect the consumer, I wold find it amazing if you don't have to concentrate just to breathe.

I agree that it will affect the consumer somehow.

But I also think it's EXTREMELY naive to believe that in a shitty economy, marketing a completely optional good (not food/water/shelter/etc...), that they will be able to pass on 60 billion dollars of cost to their customers successfully. They could try to raise the prices, but people could also just stop buying.