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iamwiz82

iamwiz82

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I just installed straight pipes on my car, as I was not about spend $2,000 on a pair of mufflers. After about 45 minutes, I was completely de-balled and happy. It's a lot louder, but not 'open header' loud, as there is 4 cats and a resonator before the mufflers. It's definately quiter than your average classic muscle car, and as a bonus it's got a great burble when you get off the throttle.

Hanging low

And after
 
coldmeat

coldmeat

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the muffler on my truck fell off last winter and we haven't bothered to get a new one.
 
BW86

BW86

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It looks a lot better and I bet it sounds a heck of a lot better too.
 
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fbrdphreak

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I bet that sounds nice alright. I ran my GTO without mufflers when I was changing them, heh, not quite something I would want to drive around with. Would sound like a NASCAR race everytime I go anywhere
 
zerocool84

zerocool84

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Anything other then stock exhaust here in cali gets you stopped but I did run my 70 bug with a straight pipe stinger for 3 years. Never got stopped once.
 
Demon-Xanth

Demon-Xanth

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$2000 on mufflers?

...I spent about $85 replacing my stock one with a Dynomax. Sounds great, never had an issue with cops. :)
 
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ayabe

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There's a guy running absolutely nothing after the cat on his WRX in my neighborhood, sounds horrible and is extremely illegal in FL.

He was also running on a donut for about 2 months. I did my duty in informing him that both were bad and harmful to the Subaru community, he didn't seem to get the joke.
 
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sjwaste

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I just installed straight pipes on my car, as I was not about spend $2,000 on a pair of mufflers. After about 45 minutes, I was completely de-balled and happy. It's a lot louder, but not 'open header' loud, as there is 4 cats and a resonator before the mufflers. It's definately quiter than your average classic muscle car, and as a bonus it's got a great burble when you get off the throttle.

Hanging low

And after
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Hah, I upgraded my Supra to a 3" exhaust since the stock w/ integrated exhaust was getting plugged. No matter what I put on in terms of muffler, it sounds like an outboard. I need to find something that will help. Would a second muffler upstream as a resonator help, you think?

EDIT: To be more clear, yes, I'm still running a cat. No way I'd pass VA emissions w/o it.
 
iamwiz82

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Oh, Flowmaster has some for '03-07 Z4 Ms for $87 each:
http://www.car-stuff.com/carpa...masterf1394304621.html

...does turnermotorsports.com ship free bjs with their stuff?
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I'm always concerned when a product supports a car before it was even made ;). Z4 M was only from 06-08. Also, the exhaust is completely different from the 2.5 to the 3.0 to the M, so it's just a generic offset. It would probably come out looking like a Civic with a crooked exhaust pointing at a 45 degree angle to the bumper ;)
 
kalrith

kalrith

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So you're the one who kept me from getting the custom license plate I've always wanted!
 
Kadarin

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
$2000 on mufflers?

...I spent about $85 replacing my stock one with a Dynomax. Sounds great, never had an issue with cops. :)
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Yeah, but $2,000 is $1,500 off MSRP!

http://www.turnermotorsport.co...ODUCT_ID=789836.789806

Note that is just for two cans, nothing else.
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I have the same problem with exhaust systems for my M3. Just because it's a BMW, somehow it's ok to charge a completely unrealistic price for a muffler.

Example
 
iamwiz82

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
$2000 on mufflers?

...I spent about $85 replacing my stock one with a Dynomax. Sounds great, never had an issue with cops. :)
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Yeah, but $2,000 is $1,500 off MSRP!

http://www.turnermotorsport.co...ODUCT_ID=789836.789806

Note that is just for two cans, nothing else.
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I have the same problem with exhaust systems for my M3. Just because it's a BMW, somehow it's ok to charge a completely unrealistic price for a muffler.

Example
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It's insanity, IMHO. Just like pretty all the mods. RPi has very reasonable pricing, but I don't know if they make an e9x M3 muffler.
 
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BUTCH1

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Were the OEM mufflers shot or just hung to low for your liking??. Maybe you could sell them on
CL and make some of your $$$ back. Does look nicer though..
 
RiDE

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Most people in the BMW forums just put your generic Magnaflows and call it a day. There are of course a few ballers who sport the eisenmann and remus stuff.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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I thought the stainless Bassani cat back was expensive for my car at $700... and thats for like the best one out there.

Having a BMW emblem on the trunk lid sounds like a pain in the ass.
 
ponyo

ponyo

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Feb 14, 2002
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BMW tax is absurd. $2-3k for a muffler? :laugh:

I would never buy new muffler anyways. Just buy a slightly used one for like 40% of the cost of a new one. People go through lot of mufflers to get the sound they want and you can usually buy it for pretty cheap used. I paid $600 for a used GHL with 3k miles which retails for $1,400. It's 20 lbs lighter than the stock exhaust so I'm happy.
 
Kadarin

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Naustica
BMW tax is absurd. $2-3k for a muffler? :laugh:
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Here's what I said about the subject in a BMW forum:

The Eisenmann may have been designed by NASA and manufactured out of some pure titanium alloy by robotic assemblers in a cleanroom, and it may be built to tolerances so exact that it would take new theories of quantum mechanics to spot imperfections, but it's still just a muffler and some fancy chrome tips that cost $2600. It could be the absolute best muffler that will ever be built in all of automotive history, but is it *really* worth $2600? Let's put this into perspective: I could just about buy a Mac Pro for that, or a pretty good flatscreen tv, or a set of fully assembled AFR aluminum cylinder heads for an LS1 engine.

Someone has got to be making about $2000 profit on this, at least.
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Demon-Xanth

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Oh, Flowmaster has some for '03-07 Z4 Ms for $87 each:
http://www.car-stuff.com/carpa...masterf1394304621.html

...does turnermotorsports.com ship free bjs with their stuff?
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I'm always concerned when a product supports a car before it was even made ;). Z4 M was only from 06-08. Also, the exhaust is completely different from the 2.5 to the 3.0 to the M, so it's just a generic offset. It would probably come out looking like a Civic with a crooked exhaust pointing at a 45 degree angle to the bumper ;)
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It doesn't have tips like the other one does. It only costs what, $30/tip to weld some on at the right angle?
 
Squisher

Squisher

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Sorry, I couldn't read the rest of the thread. My eyes glazed over and I seem to be disoriented after seeing the words, "$2000 mufflers"
 
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