MSNBC : Israel says killing Arafat an option

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WTF? How could that possibly help the situation over there? :|

JERUSALEM, Sept. 14 ? Israel?s vice prime minister said Sunday that killing Yasser Arafat is an option being considered following a decision to ?remove? the Palestinian leader. ?KILLING (ARAFAT) is definitely one of the options? open to the army after last week?s decision by Israel?s security Cabinet to ?remove? Arafat, vice premier Ehud Olmert told Israel Radio.
The statement echoed threats by other Israeli leaders who have said they are keeping options open as to whether the decision means Arafat will be expelled, further isolated at his West Bank compound or dealt with more harshly. But Olmert, considered a likely future candidate for premier, is the official closest to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to state Arafat might be killed.
 

glenn1

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WTF? How could that possibly help the situation over there?

They didn't say it would help, just that it's an option. That it is one doesn't mean the option will ever be exercised, just that they aren't ruling it out as a contigiency. Contigiency planning is designed for exactly that, to give the broadest possible menu of alternatives to choose from, not just the most likely or palatable ones. The U.S. probably has contigiency plans for invading Antarctica too, but it's not like it'll ever be used.

It's good in a way that it is being discussed, that way the ramifications of doing so can actually be discussed in advance, which makes it much less likely that the option would be chosen.
 

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Originally posted by: glenn1
WTF? How could that possibly help the situation over there?

They didn't say it would help, just that it's an option. That it is one doesn't mean the option will ever be exercised, just that they aren't ruling it out as a contigiency. Contigiency planning is designed for exactly that, to give the broadest possible menu of alternatives to choose from, not just the most likely or palatable ones. The U.S. probably has contigiency plans for invading Antarctica too, but it's not like it'll ever be used.

It's good in a way that it is being discussed, that way the ramifications of doing so can actually be discussed in advance, which makes it much less likely that the option would be chosen.

Ok, I understand where you are coming from, and you make some valid points. However, I feel like this could do nothing else but to inflame the sitution possibly past the point of no return, and escalate this conflict to a even more violent level. For that reason, I don't think this option should even be on the table, IMO. Also, what exactly has he done that would warrant him being assasinated?
 

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I don't like Yassir Arafat. I think his Palestinian "Authority" is a joke and I think it is sad that Hamas is providing most of the social services that the "Authority" should be providing.

That being said, it was not prudent for the VPM of Israel to say something like that. Perhaps his anger over the latest suicide bombings caused him to slip up and say it. I can't see what purpose this comment could possibly serve except to polarize the situation further.

CNN is reporting that "crowds of Palestinians" are rallying to Arafat's side and swearing to defend him. :frown: Israel should not give the Palestinians more reasons to support this leader.
 

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Originally posted by: Jadow
supported terrorism for 40 years.

Ummm..any specific crimes, or just general support? Since when is taking out the leader of the people you are trying make peace with a good thing? He will just be a martyr to his people and it will do nothing but escalate the current violence to even higher levels.
 

spaceman

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there will never be peace in that region.IMO
til one side or the other is removed or wiped from the face of the planet.

 

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arafats useless, he cant control his own people. it will matter little in the command structure should he disappear. but it would not go over well with the middle east
 

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I doubt that Israel would kill Arafat just for that reason, he would be a martyr. I think they were hoping that a little fear would make Arafat realize that this game he has been playing for 40 years has to come to an end......
 

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Originally posted by: Jmman
I doubt that Israel would kill Arafat just for that reason, he would be a martyr. I think they were hoping that a little fear would make Arafat realize that this game he has been playing for 40 years has to come to an end......

I think it would take a lot more than that to scare Arafat, he's been through some crazy sh!t in his life. Besides, hes called their bluff more than once. Like him or not, anyone who is willing to live in an office building that has been bombed to hell and has stayed put when tanks were on the other side of his walls has balls of steel IMO.
 

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It should of been done years ago! I wish Bush would take Israel off the leash, so that can wipe out Arafat, and his loyals.
 

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Originally posted by: Bigdude
It should of been done years ago! I wish Bush would take Israel off the leash, so that can wipe out Arafat, and his loyals.

*waves to Bigdude*
 

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A Martyr to what? Terrorism? Like killing Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein? He is no revolutionary, just an old man buying his time under the protectionism of his terrorist organization. How many times, under how many administrations, the UN, and other nations who put together a workable peace has this THUG destroyed all the work at the last moment? He has only been a hinderance to Palestine getting any hope for peace and a state of thier own.. Kill the bastard.
 

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Killing Arafat not an option anymore

Killing Arafat as Official Policy Is Denied
By THE NEW YORK TIMES


ERUSALEM, Sept. 15 ? A day after Israel's vice prime minister, Ehud Olmert, said that killing Yasir Arafat was one option under consideration, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said today that such a move is "not the official policy of the Israeli government."

"We don't speak about killing," Mr. Shalom said. "We didn't speak about it before, and we don't speak about it today. I think that Arafat, while he is here ? there is no chance of having peace with the Palestinians. That's my personal view."

Last Thursday, Israel's security cabinet decided in principle to "remove" Mr. Arafat, the Palestinian leader, at a time of its choosing. The wording was deliberately vague, and Israeli officials have subsequently indicated that Israel is considering a range of options.

Mr. Arafat has left his West Bank compound on only a handful of occasions since the Israelis imposed restrictions on him in December 2001.

On Sunday, Mr. Olmert said: "Arafat can no longer be a factor in what happens here. The question is: How are we going to do it? Expulsion is certainly one of the options, and killing is also one of the options."


 

Falloutboy

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Ok here is the solution to the middle east. tap Alaska's oil. no need for middle east oil take the leesh off of isreal and let them fight it out. Hell of alot cheaper than trying to help people who don't seem to want our help.
 

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Originally posted by: RadioActiveMan666
Ok here is the solution to the middle east. tap Alaska's oil. no need for middle east oil take the leesh off of isreal and let them fight it out. Hell of alot cheaper than trying to help people who don't seem to want our help.


Exactly, we need to get our oil from Alaska, and off shore of Florida.
 

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Originally posted by: Bigdude
Originally posted by: RadioActiveMan666
Ok here is the solution to the middle east. tap Alaska's oil. no need for middle east oil take the leesh off of isreal and let them fight it out. Hell of alot cheaper than trying to help people who don't seem to want our help.


Exactly, we need to get our oil from Alaska, and off shore of Florida.
Except that there's only enough oil in Alaska to help us along for a few years at our current rates of consumption.

DOI says 10.4 billion barrels recoverable

The US eats up almost 20 million barrels per day

You do the math since you claim not to be retarded.

 

Bigdude

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That would be 500 days, but that figure is the total oil consumption of the USA. If you read my post, I said we also need to drill off the coast of Florida. Now quit following me from post to post, you retarded Government worker!
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Bigdude
That would be 500 days, but that figure is the total oil consumption of the USA. If you read my post, I said we also need to drill off the coast of Florida. Now quit following me from post to post, you retared Government worker!
That wasn't a very opportune word to misspell, was it? :D
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: mastertech01
A Martyr to what? Terrorism? Like killing Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein? He is no revolutionary, just an old man buying his time under the protectionism of his terrorist organization. How many times, under how many administrations, the UN, and other nations who put together a workable peace has this THUG destroyed all the work at the last moment? He has only been a hinderance to Palestine getting any hope for peace and a state of thier own.. Kill the bastard.

The ignorance is gushing out of your post like water from a breached dam. If you believe Arafat was the only reason peace has never been negotiated, you are dead wrong. For starters, let's evaluate why Oslo failed- here is a good article on that subject, to shed some light on your dark world of ignorance: http://home.comcast.net/~obermayer/aer/articles/oslo/BG0503Greenway.htm