MSG Haters, Gluten/Organic Lovers GTFO

[AznAnarchy99]

http://abc7news.com/food/sf-restaurant-takes-stand-against-hard-to-please-customers/317998/

Good. Asian food can't really be replicated without MSG and Gluten Free product.

 

[surfsatwerk]

God Bless America!

 

[nageov3t]

MSG hypochondriacs are the worst.

used to work with this girl who claimed that she'd have an allergic reaction if she even smelled the fumes coming off of Chinese food unless it was ordered from an MSG-free restaurant.

but since the one MSG-free Chinese delivery place sucked, when the whole group of us would order lunch we'd just lie about where it came from -- and voila, no complaints of an allergic reaction.

 

[DesiPower]

I like what he did, I would go there.

 

[Rakehellion]

I dislike MSG because it tastes like crap, not for any health reasons. It's a cheap substitute for actual flavorings like bacon grease or beef steak.

 

[mmntech]

Don't blame him. He said the customers were being really rude and demanding free meals when their requests aren't honoured. Telling a chef you don't like his choice of ingredients is like telling an artist their painting sucks, then grabbing the brush to try and "fix" it.

His fault for opening up a restaurant in San Francisco. Patient zero of hipster douchebaggery. Seems like this isn't a something that's happened a couple of times from people with legit food allergies.

 

[Rakehellion]

It's like going to McDonald's and complaining their beef isn't organic. Stop being a stupid.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I dislike MSG because it tastes like crap, not for any health reasons. It's a cheap substitute for actual flavorings like bacon grease or beef steak.

I don't think you know what MSG is.

The only flavor MSG has is a slight saltiness which is pretty much imperceptible in food. The only thing MSG does is enhance the already existing flavor of what it is added to. If food with MSG tastes like crap, its because the food itself is already crap.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Don't blame him. He said the customers were being really rude and demanding free meals when their requests aren't honoured. Telling a chef you don't like his choice of ingredients is like telling an artist their painting sucks, then grabbing the brush to try and "fix" it.

His fault for opening up a restaurant in San Francisco. Patient zero of hipster douchebaggery. Seems like this isn't a something that's happened a couple of times from people with legit food allergies.

He could have been in San Fran long before the whole MSG is evil, organic and gluten free craze.

 

[DesiPower]

I don't think you know what MSG is.

The only flavor MSG has is a slight saltiness which is pretty much imperceptible in food. The only thing MSG does is enhance the already existing flavor of what it is added to. If food with MSG tastes like crap, its because the food itself is already crap.

Agreed, buy some msg from a store and try it out to see how its states and what it does.

 

[lxskllr]

I don't think you know what MSG is.

The only flavor MSG has is a slight saltiness which is pretty much imperceptible in food. The only thing MSG does is enhance the already existing flavor of what it is added to. If food with MSG tastes like crap, its because the food itself is already crap.

Nonsense. It has a strong salty taste, with a bit of something else that doesn't go away, especially when it's overused, like in Doritos. If it's used sparingly, it's tolerable, but a lot of places don't use it sparingly.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Nonsense. It has a strong salty taste, with a bit of something else that doesn't go away, especially when it's overused, like in Doritos. If it's used sparingly, it's tolerable, but a lot of places don't use it sparingly.

Its similar to salt. Salt enhances the flavor of the dish. However if you use too much it becomes salty.

 

[Rakehellion]

I don't think you know what MSG is.

The only flavor MSG has is a slight saltiness which is pretty much imperceptible in food. The only thing MSG does is enhance the already existing flavor of what it is added to. If food with MSG tastes like crap, its because the food itself is already crap.

MSG has a distinct bitter chemical flavor that I can definitely make out in foods.

MSG is intended to impart a savory flavor to dishes when actual savory ingredients would be too pricey.

 

[Rakehellion]

Its similar to salt. Salt enhances the flavor of the dish. However if you use too much it becomes salty.

Salt tastes salty. It gives food a salty flavor. "Enhances" is a generic term that is meaningless.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

MSG has a distinct bitter chemical flavor that I can definitely make out in foods.

MSG is intended to impart a savory flavor to dishes when actual savory ingredients would be too pricey.

And what do those "actual savory ingredients" have that impart the savory flavor? Oh wait, glutamates. The exact same thing that MSG is.

Salt tastes salty. It gives food a salty flavor. "Enhances" is a generic term that is meaningless.

Completely false and the science proves it. The reason Doritos taste so goddamn amazing is that there are additives along with the MSG that make the taste buds tens of times more receptive to the glutamate molecule, which then massively enhances the "savory" taste of the food. It's like literally the closest to the definition of "enhance" as you can get.

Literally scientific articles call the MSG mechanism "enhancement"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10736352

Flavoring systems are of vital importance in savory food manufacturing. Many industrially prepared foods are particularly attractive to potential consumers primarily because of their typical flavors. Therefore, it is no surprise that the food industry dealing with these product segments shows great interest in the use of food or food ingredients carrying the typical umami taste and flavor enhancement systems.

Also, MSG is not the only glutamate used in foods. There is a list of a dozen other alternatives that are widely used in foods that do the same thing as MSG, but are slightly chemically different.

 

[Ns1]

MSG hypochondriacs are the worst.

used to work with this girl who claimed that she'd have an allergic reaction if she even smelled the fumes coming off of Chinese food unless it was ordered from an MSG-free restaurant.

but since the one MSG-free Chinese delivery place sucked, when the whole group of us would order lunch we'd just lie about where it came from -- and voila, no complaints of an allergic reaction.

you should buy from the MSG free place and say it's from the MSG place and see if she has a "reaction"

 

[Rakehellion]

And what do those "actual savory ingredients" have that impart the savory flavor? Oh wait, gulamates

I'm sure there are thousands of different foods that have a savory flavor and aren't manufactured in a laboratory. You'll need to be more specific.

Completely false and the science proves it. The reason Doritos taste so goddamn amazing is that there are additives along with the MSG that make the taste buds tens of times more receptive to the glutamate molecule, which then massively enhances the "savory" taste of the food.

Literally scientific articles call the MSG mechanism "enhancement"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10736352

You quote my post about salt and give a link about MSG.

Yes, the chemicals in your food, textures, temperature, and your mood can all have an effect on how your enjoy your meal, but MSG still tastes like MSG and salt tastes like salt.

 

[Colt45]

The gluten believers must be terrible in SF.


They're bad here in BFE.

 

[HumblePie]

It's like getting pissed at Olive Garden for not serving breakfast tacos. You go into a restaurant looking for certain food there. If it isn't there, then go somewhere else. Don't try to force the place to change because you want it to be different. Fucking idiots.

 

[KeithTalent]

you should buy from the MSG free place and say it's from the MSG place and see if she has a "reaction"

Yes, please do this and report back. :thumbsup:

KT

 

[nageov3t]

Yes, please do this and report back. :thumbsup:

KT

sadly, I no longer work with the bitch.

this was at a call center job I had in college.

 

[KeithTalent]

sadly, I no longer work with the bitch.

this was at a call center job I had in college.

Damn it.

KT

 

[JEDIYoda]

I dislike MSG because it tastes like crap, not for any health reasons. It's a cheap substitute for actual flavorings like bacon grease or beef steak.

your response sounded good! But in actuality it has nothing to do with MSG....you do know what MSG is don`t you??

 

[Crono]

torula yeast > MSG

 

[Cerb]

http://abc7news.com/food/sf-restaurant-takes-stand-against-hard-to-please-customers/317998/

Good. Asian food can't really be replicated without MSG and Gluten Free product.

Of course it can be replicated without MSG. Most of it has been made without MSG since inception, even those that aren't Asian at all.

Lots of MSG sucks, because the base flavor just isn't there. Browned bland food tastes like burnt bland food...not much of an improvement. No MSG is fine. A bit of MSG is fine. Personally, I prefer places that don't use MSG, but I'd bet that if they added some, they'd still be better (IE, they're making a point of not using it because they're proud of their food's quality, not because a little MSG would ruin it).

Now, gluten...well, of course you can't, because some sauces need it, as do noodles and wrappers, for staying together and having the right texture. Faking it never works right, but some people would rather have bad fakes with poor texture and flavor than just learn to eat good food that doesn't need it (much like meat substitutes).

From the article, what I most get is one more reason I don't think I would want to live in California. Those customers seem like douchey stereotypes, along with some of the anti-restaurant-owner commenters; and if there are a ton of Chinese places, that aren't sit-down dinner type places, making a point of not using MSG and/or Gluten, there are clearly way too many deluded assholes per square mile.