MSE 'not' Updating in Reliability Monitor?

synoptic12

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Microsoft Security essentials not showing definitions in Reliability Monitor, yet in Update Section of MSE, definitions are being updated. Can any provide any insight here?
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VirtualLarry

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Ok, I'm a little confused by what I'm seeing here. Windows Reliability Monitor is not in Win7, that I know of (perhaps I'm wrong on this account, perhaps MS added it), but MS Security Essentials is for Win7, and not for Win10.

What OS are you running here, is it Win7 or Win10? I'm confused, how MSSE is running on Win10, or Reliability Monitor is in Win7. I don't see how to get both on one OS.

According to this, "View Reliability History" has been in since Vista. Learn something new every day. I thought that it was a Win8.1/Win10 new feature. I apologize for my prior ignorance in that matter.

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Anyways, I think that "Anti-malware definition updates", can come via explicit Windows Updates, or through a back-channel using BITS service. That may be what you're seeing here?

Sometimes, Win7 updates MSSE, and behaviors change too. Was there an update to the MSSE executable files in the last few days.

I agree, that change might be a bit disconcerting, but MSSE seems to indicate that it's still being updated.

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In short, I really don't know. But I do have some experience, through a friend, that sometimes the Anti-malware definitions updates, prompted the user to do a Windows Update. Every day. And some times, they didn't.
 
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synoptic12

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Sorry, you're wrong. "Reliability Monitor" is adjoined to Windows 7. If you looked up my profile, you would surely see the specifications of my PC. Running Windows 7 64-bit for ten years. There have been no changes. The MSE anti-Virus definitions, as well as malware are being updated daily as you can see in the MSE 'Update' definitions. There are no updates for Windows 7 any longer, so there is nothing to update. There is always a notice when MSE requires to be updated in the definition area. Again, you can clearly see that the definitions are up to date. Sporadically, MSE calls out a scan to be performed, as the house turns red. It is about a ten minute 'quick' scan that resets MSE. Irrespective of that, there has not been any anti-malware updates that are set manually, rather automatic. Thanks for your assistance.

* I can only believe that seeing that the updates are still being sent, there are no issues with MSE. Why the updates are not posting to the "Reliability Monitor" is unknown to me. It has been four days that no information is being registered. There have been some quirks in other areas, namely the start menu folders disappearing. That issues was rectified by unlocking the the task bar. Google Chrome is experimenting with colors, namely blue as Google keeps reverting back and forth. It is almost impossible to acquire any information or to make adjustments to Google browser with the exception of :
chrome://flags/#enable-quic.
 

synoptic12

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Well guess what happened? I just checked the Reliability Monitor and the definitions in the last four days have been registered. MSE is an excellent security application which I've had for over six years; never a problem. I believe that Microsoft Security Essentials is far better than any can perceive.
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VirtualLarry

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namely the start menu folders disappearing. That issues was rectified by unlocking the the task bar.
That's kind of weird, too. I'm glad that reliability monitor is registering your updates now. I'm sorry that I didn't initially know that it was in Win7 too.

I would check your SMART values for your HDDs too.
 

synoptic12

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That's kind of weird, too. I'm glad that reliability monitor is registering your updates now. I'm sorry that I didn't initially know that it was in Win7 too.

I would check your SMART values for your HDDs too.

Sure, no problem. Did not to be rude in any way. You'll have to elaborate on 'Smart values for your HDDs too". I have SATA, no HDDs. Anyways, MSE is better than Avast and Norton, along with Malwarebytes. By the way, the Video card is performing flawlessly. I had intentions of getting a better card but that would require a PSU of more watts. Decided against it, for my system is running top notch. Thanks for your assistance. Happy New Year and keep the faith, Everything else is meaningless.
 

VirtualLarry

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Well, I meant that if you were running HDDs (SATA OR IDE), to check their SMART values, specifically, "Pending Sectors" and "Re-Allocated Sectors", as non-zero "raw" values in those parameters often means that the drive is potentially failing on you, which can explain folders "disappearing" on you.

I've had some stuff disappear, mostly just mining programs, Windows Defender just took them out, just like that.
 

synoptic12

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Checked all the sectors and every possible test relating to PSU, MOBO; including a complete system analysis. Could not find anything. When I make mention of folders disappearing, that could be a little deceiving. For some unknown reason, the 'start menu' information disappeared (Pic inserted), so I reset to default and the info returned. Then, a day later, the right side info of the start menu disappeared. I then 'unlocked the taskbar by unchecking and the info returned. No problems since.
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