MS Office free and it feels so good

[shiner]

Finally decided to totally rid myself of Office 2000. Yeah I paid a lot for it, but it just never grew on me enough to replace WordPerfect. Today I decided to uninstall the beast and just use WordPerfect. Only thing I was still using out of Office 2000 was Outlook and I can go to Outlook Express and not really care.... Of course I still have Office XP at work but I don't use it except for Outlook....downloaded Open Office a couple of months ago and have been using it since. WordPerfect is still my fave and I would have it at work to if the people that do our software auditing weren't so anal. How do I get away with Open Office? Well for one it's free.....for two I can say I'm "testing it"

Maybe I'm just biased towards WordPerfect because I've been using it since version 5.1, but I think it kicks MS Office's ass. expecially the new WordPerfect 11.

 

[PCMarine]

Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: PCMarine
Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

Slow, bloated, yet missing the power and features that WordPerfect has had for years.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

OpenOffice is cool.

 

[Transition]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: PCMarine
Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

Slow, bloated, yet missing the power and features that WordPerfect has had for years.

Interesting perspective. I love MS Office.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: PCMarine
Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

Slow, bloated, yet missing the power and features that WordPerfect has had for years.

Just curious about this.. what power and features does WordPerfect have that Office lacks?

 

[AntaresVI]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: PCMarine
Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

Slow, bloated, yet missing the power and features that WordPerfect has had for years.

Just curious about this.. what power and features does WordPerfect have that Office lacks?

Never having been a WP user, I'm interested too...

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: PCMarine
Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

Slow, bloated, yet missing the power and features that WordPerfect has had for years.

Just curious about this.. what power and features does WordPerfect have that Office lacks?

For starters it will let you see the code of a document when you are working on it. Makes like a helluva lot easier than Word which sometimes just does whatever the hell it wants to. Also makes working with tables in a document easier. The ability to publish to XML or PDF kicks ass. Formatting is just all around easier. Graphics are easier to integrate, manipulate, etc.. in WP documents. The interface is slicker and much more customizable. Handles large files much better. Try opening something huge and watch MS Office do a Mama Cass impersonation. Quattro Pro also seems much more powerful. I don't use spreadsheet programs all that much, but Quattro Pro has always seemed easier to use and more logical in the way you do things. Charting especially seems better in Quattro Pro than it is in Excel.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Don't listen to the bullsh|t from all the anti-MS people out there. Some people just hate MS for the simple reason of it being the current cool thing to do.

MS Office works just fine. Open Office works just fine, too, although a *tad* bit harder to get used to and become familiar with. So does WordPerfect (although you can't get past this feeling of being outdated and a little clumsy to use). MS Office works just fine for me.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Don't listen to the bullsh|t from all the anti-MS people out there. Some people just hate MS for the simple reason of it being the current cool thing to do.

MS Office works just fine. Open Office works just fine, too, although a *tad* bit harder to get used to and become familiar with. So does WordPerfect (although you can't get past this feeling of being outdated and a little clumsy to use). MS Office works just fine for me.

I'm not anti-MS by any means.....heck....I've been an MCSE since the NT4 days....work on MS servers all day every day. I give them credit for what they do....it just seems to me that WordPerfect is and always has been better than MS Office.

 

[EeyoreX]

For starters it will let you see the code of a document when you are working on it. Makes like a helluva lot easier than Word which sometimes just does whatever the hell it wants to. Also makes working with tables in a document easier. The ability to publish to XML or PDF kicks ass. Formatting is just all around easier. Graphics are easier to integrate, manipulate, etc.. in WP documents. The interface is slicker and much more customizable. Handles large files much better. Try opening something huge and watch MS Office do a Mama Cass impersonation. Quattro Pro also seems much more powerful. I don't use spreadsheet programs all that much, but Quattro Pro has always seemed easier to use and more logical in the way you do things. Charting especially seems better in Quattro Pro than it is in Excel.

Viewing the code is about the only thing I think WP has over the MS Office suite. I find tables exceptionally easy in Word. I don't know about publishing to XML in Word, but publishing to PDF is as simple as installing Adobe's product, and it integrates into Word, and several other apps as well. Interface "feel" is subjective and only makes it better for certain users, and not necessarily a better interface from a usability standpoint. I use Excel, as a spreadsheet, and it seems logical to me. And I have never had a problem with large documents (multi hundred page Word files or multi-workbook spreadsheets). Maybe WordPerfect is better for you, and that's great. I don't find it slow or missing in features. And any time anything is part of a "suite" it's bloated. That goes for WordPerfect suite.

\Dan

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Don't listen to the bullsh|t from all the anti-MS people out there. Some people just hate MS for the simple reason of it being the current cool thing to do.

And likewise, some people love MS for the simple reason of <insert reason>.

Everyone spouts just as much BS as everyone else.

Notice how he says "free." He's now *free* of MS Office. You have to realize what that means. Office costs hundreds of dollars, and depending on it to get things done is just like depending on a car to get places. I don't know about you, but if I had a chance to get a free car that required no monetary investment to fix, no gas costs, no insurance costs, and extremely little manual labor to take care of it, I would jump at the chance. But that's just me; I don't like having to rely on other people/things more than necessary. If you do, that's fine, you are not alone. But you just look like an ass running around everywhere saying "oh these people are trying to be hip and cool by being rebellious blah blah blah." There are just as many wannabe-underdog jackasses as there are jackasses who always follow the "rules" and the status quo.

Do you really trust Microsoft that much? Do you trust any huge corporation? Do you think corporations get huge because they're goodhearted and make great products? Do you think that the economic, political, and legal environment in the US encourages business growth based on honesty and "watching out for the little guy?" Do you think human nature in general promotes good intentions?

*cough* anyways.

 

[clicknext]

Hmm, MS Office works just fine for my purposes, but this thread has made me want to try WP to see...

 

[Pretty Cool]

Well, this thread has made me wish I could add a kill filter to Fuse Talk.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Pretty Cool
Well, this thread has made me wish I could add a kill filter to Fuse Talk.

I'm pretty sure subscribers are able to ignore people. I could be wrong though.

 

[thornc]

Why Pretty Cool, because someone stated an opinnion and backed it up with facts??

I use MS Office because I'm forced to (corporate apps), but for text documents nothing beats Tex/Latex... altough WP from what I remember from it was good too.

The main problem with MS Word, is that most of the times is very difficult to do what you really want to do, like put this image here and let it stay here, let the text float around it, but I want it here! Or how do I change the style of this paragraph, without changing the style of everything else? Some of you will tell me, this is easily done, I agree that it can be done but not so easily as it should or as easily as I do it with Tex/Latex.... maybe I'm really getting old!!

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Don't listen to the bullsh|t from all the anti-MS people out there. Some people just hate MS for the simple reason of it being the current cool thing to do.

Do you really trust Microsoft that much? Do you trust any huge corporation? Do you think corporations get huge because they're goodhearted and make great products? Do you think that the economic, political, and legal environment in the US encourages business growth based on honesty and "watching out for the little guy?" Do you think human nature in general promotes good intentions?

i used to...

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Just curious about this.. what power and features does WordPerfect have that Office lacks?

Well, I've been using Office XP 2002 for a while (hangs head in shame), but have been intending to get OpenOffice installed in my Gentoo VM once I get the other (more necessary) stuff compiled. Anyway, when I used WordPerfect 8 a long, long time ago (in a galaxy far away... ), it had one useful feature that I remember quite well: the ability to arbitrarily (edit: and automatically) scale all font sizes in a document to make it fit exactly into a certain number of pages. That was years ago, and the latest versions of MS Office yet lack this feature (unless it made it into 2003).

Oh, and I really feel sorry for some clueless people who have been indoctrinated by Microsoft to believe that MS products and other products that run on Wintel systems are the One and Only True Way. I'm far from being a Linux or BSD Zealot; I will use Windows where appropriate (i.e. for extensive photo work, where Photoshop is the only thing that would do the job), and Linux where appropriate (it makes a great programming workstation, due to the plentiful quantity of freely available and high quality programming utilities and compilers).

Oh, and BBWF said this much better than I did. Nevermind my post then.

 

[Lovehandles]

I wish i had found this thread sooner. I can't believe some people wanna diss shinerburke for posting his opinion and backing it up with something substantive. I know a lot of posters on various boards who post BS like yeah 'such and such software sucked' - and not back it up with anything more than... it made my computer slow... blah blah blah.

I couldn't agree more with Shiner's & Thornc's comments on why they dislike MS Word. I started out using an early version of WP DOS back in 1991 and my preference is still WP over Word. There's no question in my mind that WP is far superior in terms of the graphics handling/editing; formatting issues - and no i'm not going there AGAIN cuz i think Thornc & Shiner have both spelled that out clear enough.

What bothers me off is there are people who go off on tangeants on a perfectly valid post. But i suppose that right there is the nature of internet forums as any loose nut can post any comment they want - whether it follows the forum guidelines or not.

 

[Maetryx]

For a really easy to use FREE alternative to MS Office, get the 602Software PC Suite which is compatible with Word and Excel.

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: PCMarine
Wait so... What's wrong with MS Office?

Slow, bloated, yet missing the power and features that WordPerfect has had for years.

Slow? that's new to me... word opens in under a second...

 

[manly]

Yeah, because all we need to do with Word is to open it and not actually use it for anything productive.

Besides, MS Office has cheated with pre-loading for years (for all those who've wondered why OSA.exe is in their Startup folder).

I wasn't a major fan of WP8 for Linux, but it was a promising (free beer) product at the time. The fact that it was a UNIX port was highly evident. Never tried the next major release once Corel went to a pay-ware format only.

I briefly moved away from MS Office 2000 to WP9 for Windows completely for a time, but didn't find WP9 to be any better. I don't use a word processor or a spreadsheet much anyway, and now we have OOo.

 

[thornc]

Originally posted by: Maetryx
For a really easy to use FREE alternative to MS Office, get the 602Software PC Suite which is compatible with Word and Excel.

Yap, this is what I use on my Lappy, along with Miktex! When it's running Windows!

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Finally decided to totally rid myself of Office 2000. Yeah I paid a lot for it, but it just never grew on me enough to replace WordPerfect. Today I decided to uninstall the beast and just use WordPerfect. Only thing I was still using out of Office 2000 was Outlook and I can go to Outlook Express and not really care.... Of course I still have Office XP at work but I don't use it except for Outlook....downloaded Open Office a couple of months ago and have been using it since. WordPerfect is still my fave and I would have it at work to if the people that do our software auditing weren't so anal. How do I get away with Open Office? Well for one it's free.....for two I can say I'm "testing it"

Maybe I'm just biased towards WordPerfect because I've been using it since version 5.1, but I think it kicks MS Office's ass. expecially the new WordPerfect 11.

then can I have your copy of MS office?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Jehovah

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Finally decided to totally rid myself of Office 2000. Yeah I paid a lot for it, but it just never grew on me enough to replace WordPerfect. Today I decided to uninstall the beast and just use WordPerfect. Only thing I was still using out of Office 2000 was Outlook and I can go to Outlook Express and not really care.... Of course I still have Office XP at work but I don't use it except for Outlook....downloaded Open Office a couple of months ago and have been using it since. WordPerfect is still my fave and I would have it at work to if the people that do our software auditing weren't so anal. How do I get away with Open Office? Well for one it's free.....for two I can say I'm "testing it"

Maybe I'm just biased towards WordPerfect because I've been using it since version 5.1, but I think it kicks MS Office's ass. expecially the new WordPerfect 11.

then can I have your copy of MS office?

Already given it away....