MS Java++ compatability??

[jobert]

If I use MS Visual Java++ (a bunch on eBay)
will I have compatability problems with the
"standard" JVM?

 

[manly]

Considering J++ is an old, dead product, it's not even worth using. Get the Java2 SDK from Sun if you want to do real Java development.

Or get C# if you want to do .Net framework development.

 

[jobert]

I know it's a dead product.
I was considering getting a bunch of them
for a beginner's course in Java, but I want to
be sure the finished code will run on
anybody's machine.

 

[Shazam]

VJ++ is so obsolete, it's not even worth considering.

Why not use something like JBuilder? There's a free version.

 

[Shuten]

Do not buy J++ if you want compatibility.
This was the source of the huge Sun/Microsoft debacle over
the compatibility issues. Get a bunch of free Jbuilders.. Its
just as good as IDE. It will save you money if you are just teaching
java.


Shuten

 

[jobert]

Our school is still on Win98.
I think JBuilder6 requires Win2K.

Is it free, or is it a trial/demo that expires?

 

[Shazam]

Yes, it's free and work on Win98. Check their web site, eh?

 

[jobert]

Well, Shazam, their web site says Win2000 or XP...

JBuilder6 System Requirements

 

[manly]

JBuilder Personal is a free download (with registration). In reality, it should work fine on Win98 systems although you'd have to try it out to determine compatibility and performance.

If you want something more lightweight, give IBM's open-source Eclipse a look. There are numerous other ways of developing Java code; so it really depends on what features you're looking for.

 

[AmigaMan]

IDE?? I don't need no stinkin IDE! Notepad is your friend!

BTW, I use MS J++ on my Win NT 4.0 machine and compile the code to run on an HPUX webserver with JRE 1.1.8. J++ is fine for compiling code and is actually quite fast compared to JBuilder on the same machine. WHen I say fast I mean moving and opening windows, scrolling (the scroll wheel actually works, go figure! Something I wish JBUilder would implement), and compiling. The speed of the code is another matter and one which I am not qualified (or intelligent enough ) to answer.
The things you lose are Java 2 improvements and bug fixes. Threading is a little flawed in 1.1.8 and you don't have the collections classes. But since our web portal is going away to be replaced by a J2EE framework in a couple months, my company isn't going to upgrade until then. THen we are getting JBuilder 6 so that we can do that J2EE stuff.
I've found that Kawa Pro is a good alternative but I don't think Allaire markets it anymore.

 

[Shazam]

<< Well, Shazam, their web site says Win2000 or XP...

JBuilder6 System Requirements >>

Trust me, it works on Win 9X systems.

 

[Scootin159]

If it's a teaching course woudln't the 'hardcore' notepad & sun Java2 SDK work best? That's what I do for my class... For the 2nd year version we use JBuilder (on 2k alebit).