MS Is Really Starting To Play Hardball

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HellRaiserandBeerDrinker

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From Lockergnome

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<<Translating Microsoftese Scribbled by Jonathan Chorney




Regarding the Microsoft licensing changes, here are the basics. All emotion and judgments regarding Microsoft, its motives and practices aside, these are the rules: (1) You used to be able to get a discount on a newer "upgrade" version of an MS program you already owned by presenting proof that you owned it (cover of the manual, legal key on your hard drive, etc.). After 7/31, the only way to get a newer version of a Microsoft product without paying list price, is to have bought a 2 year upgrade subscription - approximately 30% of the cost of the list price. During the period of the subscription, you can get all newer versions without further cost. If no new versions come out - tough luck! (2) Before the end of the subscription, you must renew it. If you let the subscription lapse, the only way to get the new version is to pay full price. It is your responsibility to keep your subscription(s) current.

(3) If you purchased a computer with the MS operating system supplied by the manufacturer, you can purchase an upgrade subscription for that operating system to be used on that computer only. Manufacturer supplied MS operating systems cannot be moved to another computer. (4) If you purchased a computer with a version of Microsoft Office on it, you can by an upgrade subscription for it. Manufacturer-supplied versions of office may be moved to one other computer only. (5) If you buy a copy of an operating system, you can buy an upgrade subscription for it and move it from one computer to another so long as you do not install it on more than one computer at a time. (6) After 7/31, if you obtain a new copy of an MS product - on a standalone or manufacturer-supplied basis - you have only 60 days in which to purchase an upgrade subscription for it. If you do not buy the subscription within that period, you must pay full price for a newer version. >>

 
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You do realize this was for VOLUME LICENSING and not individual consumers, right? I see this sentence was left out of the "transcribing"..........

After July 31, 2002, Microsoft's new Volume Licensing program will be fully implemented.
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This is the first sentence from your linked site...........dealing with businesses and volume licensing. Interesting the way this was left out and the rest of the content was twisted to infer the average home consumer.
 
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HellRaiserandBeerDrinker

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This will affect more consumers as most aren't assembling their own rigs.

The facts are: this is a change in policy which will increase costs again for most people
and is a blatant grab for a higher percentage of the system sale price by the devil, himself.
 
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UCDznutz

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Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
You do realize this was for VOLUME LICENSING and not individual consumers, right? I see this sentence was left out of the "transcribing"..........

After July 31, 2002, Microsoft's new Volume Licensing program will be fully implemented.
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This is the first sentence from your linked site...........dealing with businesses and volume licensing. Interesting the way this was left out and the rest of the content was twisted to infer the average home consumer.
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C'DaleRider

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This will affect more consumers as most aren't assembling their own rigs.
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That fact has ZERO to do with the link you provided.

As the link states:

Upgrade Advantage is available under Microsoft Open License and Select License programs
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I suppose all of us are in either of these programs.........which are BIUSINESS Volume Licensing programs.........nothing to do with home consumers.

Interesting, the FAQ's seem to revolve around this area....
Will our company grow due to new lines of business, mergers or joint ventures or do we expect to downsize? Do we know how we will track software asset management?
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And....
Am I likely to upgrade my software that I am currently licensed to run to a newer version during the next 3½ to 4 years?
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Now consider the answer MS gives for that question....
If so, purchasing Upgrade Advantage or Software Assurance before July 31, 2002 could be the most cost effective option for you (customers with greater than 250 computers should also consider an Enterprise Agreement).
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Again, this is for BUSINESSES......the true backbone of Microsoft's profitability....not home consumers who represent a small fraction of their sales. Corporate sales is where MS truly makes its money, and is why MS is trying to eak out a few more pennies.
 
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yakko

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It would be cool if it was for home users and could be easily enforced but alas it is not and your attempt to twist the facts was pathetic.
 
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Martin

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meh, it'll be only a matter of time before they come up with some similar sh!t for consumers.


Luckily, I couldn't care less :)
 
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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, it'll be only a matter of time before they come up with some similar sh!t for consumers.


Luckily, I couldn't care less :)
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But... quite a few of us do purchasing for companies, and it effects us, no one I've talked to about it has been remotely happy about what is going on.
 
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This is the first sentence from your linked site...........dealing with businesses and volume licensing. Interesting the way this was left out and the rest of the content was twisted to infer the average home consumer.
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and some of us don't sit at home all day neffing and fapping.

It will be interesting to see what happens after the 31st. It was nice of MS to put the deadline smack dab in the middle of the year when most companies have no budget money allocated for paying off microsoft.
 
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yakko

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Originally posted by: Stark
This is the first sentence from your linked site...........dealing with businesses and volume licensing. Interesting the way this was left out and the rest of the content was twisted to infer the average home consumer.
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and some of us don't sit at home all day neffing and fapping.

It will be interesting to see what happens after the 31st. It was nice of MS to put the deadline smack dab in the middle of the year when most companies have no budget money allocated for paying off microsoft.
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If they have no money budgeted then they are poorly run companies.
 
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Originally posted by: yakko
Originally posted by: Stark
This is the first sentence from your linked site...........dealing with businesses and volume licensing. Interesting the way this was left out and the rest of the content was twisted to infer the average home consumer.
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and some of us don't sit at home all day neffing and fapping.

It will be interesting to see what happens after the 31st. It was nice of MS to put the deadline smack dab in the middle of the year when most companies have no budget money allocated for paying off microsoft.
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If they have no money budgeted then they are poorly run companies.
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the money is already budgeted. it would require swapping around. i guess they have until sept 30th to get it budgeted so they can pay M$'s extra 30% on things bought aug 1.

yay monopoly!
 
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MS slapped the new license on our face at work. We don't really have any alternative (and MS knows it), so we had to comply with the new license. The end result? Prices for MS-software increased by about 100% :disgust:
 
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Stark

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If they have no money budgeted then they are poorly run companies.
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go back to neffing and fapping, yakko :p

At some places, budgets are being put together now, in July for 2003. I suppose last summer someone could have researched the new M$ licensing deal and planned on spending an extra , but back then we could still get Windows 2000 and Office 2000 installed on an OEM system from Dell.

Here's an article for any interested:
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