Which one do you guys think is better for jobs and advancement? Microsoft / Cisco Certification or Bachelors Degree in Engineering and Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering?
MS Certs or Engineering Degree?
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certifications will help you land a job now with crap/decent pay but engineering degree will help you in the long run
Engineering will amke you a man dammnit..it will put hair on your chest..it will increase the volume of your balls like the volume of water @ 273K...it will lengthen your dick like the thermal expansion of a connecting rod that isn't properly lubricated....it will buodl up your muscles, like sending electrical pulses though tissue...
it will make you a king amoung men....
<---strugggling with engineering
Please tell me your kidding. If you don't know the answer to this, then don't go to college and go the certs route.
TheLonelyPhoenix
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I just wanted to get confirmation. I already have a BS in Comp Enginering and going back for my Masters in Electrical, but have a friend who is going for the certification route and I am trying to convince him to go for a real degree instead of a cert.
No need to convince anyone of anything. If one doesn't know that a degree is superior, then there's no point in wasting time trying to convince them so.
LOL I read these typical comments all the time. Here is the real world. It really truly depends. If you take a person with a high level cert like a MCSE or CCNP or CNE with a few years experience, 3 or so, they will make just as much money and be able to hold any position that a person with a college degree has. A college degree can give you an advantage if you want to move into a possible management position. Fact is no matter what path you take to learn your experience level will ultimately determine how far you get. An electrical engineering degree is a totally different field. In a field like that obviously college would be a better route. You might make a few more dollars starting out with a college degree but it is absolute bs for people to be emphatic that a degree is a definate over a cert level because its not and it depends on the cert. It also depends on where you are in the country as well. I am sure out in CA a degree may be of more value because of the many big cities, but in place like Denver a person with a high level cert will have just as many oppurtunities. The unemployment lines are full of college grads, just like anyone else. While a college degree is nice, in the computer world it isn't the goose that lays the golden egg like so many try to make others believe it is.
Let me also add this I live here in NJ and I can tell you without a doubt a high level cert goes along way to opening a door here in the tristate area.
Let me also add this I live here in NJ and I can tell you without a doubt a high level cert goes along way to opening a door here in the tristate area.
An engineering degree provides multitudinous opportunity -- you can do anything and open any doors to create whatever future you desire. A certification will get you decent job in the short run, but will never, ever, allow for the opportunity an engineering degree provides.
I have an MS in engineering from a well known national university. I also have numerous certificaitons. Never have I heard "oh, you have xyz certification." Always, I've heard "wow, you have an MS."
I've been able to move vertically, laterally, jump fields, attain whatever development or management role I want based on my engineering degree and experience.
My advice, get the cert if you need income now, if you have a family. If not, and if you have the apptitude and abiliy to get in an engineering program, forget the cert . Whatever you do, persevere. Never quit. Never give up. Get the degree, and you will never look back.
I have an MS in engineering from a well known national university. I also have numerous certificaitons. Never have I heard "oh, you have xyz certification." Always, I've heard "wow, you have an MS."
I've been able to move vertically, laterally, jump fields, attain whatever development or management role I want based on my engineering degree and experience.
My advice, get the cert if you need income now, if you have a family. If not, and if you have the apptitude and abiliy to get in an engineering program, forget the cert . Whatever you do, persevere. Never quit. Never give up. Get the degree, and you will never look back.
Yea if your talking about being an Electrical engineer but damn sure not a Network Admin. I guarantee without a doubt, a person here in this area with a couple years of experience and gets his or her MCSE or CNE (eDirectory) they will get a job over a person with an Electrical Engineering Degree for a network admin position everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. As I stated no matter what route you go you need experience and no just because you got a college degree doesn't mean you'll get the nod over a person with a cert, its a damn lie. It depends on the field. I do agree that if he doesn't have any responsibilties going to college can be good, because in the pc world if you want to be manager of a IT department you'll need it, but it really depends. The network and pc world doesn't have any standards. It just doesn't. And trust me I know many with degrees that now look back. There is no one perfect answer, both have their positives and negatives, and depending on circumstances one may be better than the other. And if there is an engineering degree that will open doors in any tech field, let me know where it is, because in my lifetime I have yet to find one.
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