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MS Bashers, why does windows suck?
- Thread starter yhelothar
- Start date
All systems suck. Some just suck less. And the ones that suck less, suck less to you. It's all opinion based, so here ya go:
True.
True.
True, but less necessary on most Windows systems.
It makes no sense to me. It's all about big programs with features out the wazoo. I prefer smaller programs that are much more limited when used individually. A lot of the programs on a *nix system are powerful in a limited way, but can be used together to do some wonderfully powerful things.
The text editors installed by default are horrid. vi is so much more powerful. I still hit esc in notepad...
The registry is an obfuscated piece of junk. Simple text files are much more convenient for configuration.
The help system is big, slow, and rarely provides me with the information I'm looking for. The man pages for my *nix of choice are quite good. There are FAQs, and how-tos available. As long as you have done your homework and use the rules of nettiquette, asking questions get you answers quickly.
Windows is confusing. To work on a hard drive, I have to right click on the "My computer" icon, go to manage, select disk drives or something and work from there. To get networking properties, I go through half a dozen dialogues. Finding a way to add a user still confuses me.
Doesn't come with an SSH client. Not that downloading Putty and winscp is tough, but they include a browser they might as well include an SSH client.
Event viewer's logs are usually worthless. I'm sure there is a way to export and import them, but I don't know it off hand. And if I had to move a disk to another machine to get to the event viewer so I could find the problem, I'd have to play around for quite a while to figure it out. Syslog's easy text based logs are much easier, and make more sense. Plus I can easily do remote logging.
Unmounting my USB pendrive is overly complicated.
The shell is ugly (all of the standard ones). I don't like the task bar. The system tray is ok at best.
No virtual desktops. How can people use only 1 or two desktops? I use ~7 typically.
Running programs remotely has never seemed to work properly (if at all, it's been a while since I tried).
Where's perl?
Why is my main drive called C: (actually E on my system, not sure why though :|)? Why is the second drive called D: (actually C: on my system, not sure why though :|)? It would make more sense to put that second drive in the tree under the first drive.
Why are all the programs installed into individual folders?
No native X11?
I do like EFS though.
True.
True.
True, but less necessary on most Windows systems.
It makes no sense to me. It's all about big programs with features out the wazoo. I prefer smaller programs that are much more limited when used individually. A lot of the programs on a *nix system are powerful in a limited way, but can be used together to do some wonderfully powerful things.
The text editors installed by default are horrid. vi is so much more powerful. I still hit esc in notepad...
The registry is an obfuscated piece of junk. Simple text files are much more convenient for configuration.
The help system is big, slow, and rarely provides me with the information I'm looking for. The man pages for my *nix of choice are quite good. There are FAQs, and how-tos available. As long as you have done your homework and use the rules of nettiquette, asking questions get you answers quickly.
Windows is confusing. To work on a hard drive, I have to right click on the "My computer" icon, go to manage, select disk drives or something and work from there. To get networking properties, I go through half a dozen dialogues. Finding a way to add a user still confuses me.
Doesn't come with an SSH client. Not that downloading Putty and winscp is tough, but they include a browser they might as well include an SSH client.
Event viewer's logs are usually worthless. I'm sure there is a way to export and import them, but I don't know it off hand. And if I had to move a disk to another machine to get to the event viewer so I could find the problem, I'd have to play around for quite a while to figure it out. Syslog's easy text based logs are much easier, and make more sense. Plus I can easily do remote logging.
Unmounting my USB pendrive is overly complicated.
The shell is ugly (all of the standard ones). I don't like the task bar. The system tray is ok at best.
No virtual desktops. How can people use only 1 or two desktops? I use ~7 typically.
Running programs remotely has never seemed to work properly (if at all, it's been a while since I tried).
Where's perl?
Why is my main drive called C: (actually E on my system, not sure why though :|)? Why is the second drive called D: (actually C: on my system, not sure why though :|)? It would make more sense to put that second drive in the tree under the first drive.
Why are all the programs installed into individual folders?
No native X11?
I do like EFS though.
Hyperblaze
Lifer
1) Filled with security holes
2) Expensive Licencing agreements
3) You have less control over what you can do in Windows then let's say...in Linux
4) File archiecture in Windows is far less secure then in Linux (I'm not talking about security holes here, just security in general)
5) Linux can stay up running for months while Windows...has issues staying up that long (for 99 percent of the boxes I've come across)
I could probably list more if I wasn't so damn sleepy
2) Expensive Licencing agreements
3) You have less control over what you can do in Windows then let's say...in Linux
4) File archiecture in Windows is far less secure then in Linux (I'm not talking about security holes here, just security in general)
5) Linux can stay up running for months while Windows...has issues staying up that long (for 99 percent of the boxes I've come across)
I could probably list more if I wasn't so damn sleepy
Hyperblaze
Lifer
Oh I believe you 🙂
My Windows box stays up quite well too for a few weeks...but eventually everything bogs down
I swear that the only box which I've had successfully running for a long while (last uptime was 134 days running) was actually my mandrake 9.1 box. The only reason that box goes down due to power failures.
There haven't been any updates recently requiring a reboot. I had to reinstall it the other day because of a bad hard drive, and of course I have to reboot it after the initial update, but it was running fine before that. Don't remember it asking me to reboot for quite a while.
It isn't an increadibly loaded system though. Dual Athlon 2400+, 512MB ram. It just runs distributed computing clients, backs up DVDs, serves files, backs up files, downloads, uploads, etc.
The 2k pro boxes at work get rebooted 2-3 times per day. There isn't enough ram in the systems (1GB), and some of the programs are a bit wonky.
My BSD boxes stay up constantly. When I ran Linux on a machine or two, it was almost as good as the OpenBSD boxes. And my iBook almost never gets rebooted. I usually have 90+ days of uptime on that old POS.
Hyperblaze
Lifer
Isn't it interesting that the only reason you would need to power down a linux box is for either
hardware failure (nothing you can really do about those), power failure (even ups doesn't last forever)
or a kernal upgrade?
everything else can be stop and restarted =)
As for windows, once your system resources go down, it's hard to bring them back up without a shutdown.
Hyperblaze
Lifer
Actually, I'm quite a fan of BSD myself. I'm slowly loving BSD over linux.
I just LOVE /usr/ports =)
In fact for my next setup, I plan on using Linux as the gateway, firewall, file server, web server, print server, domain name controller, ftp server and who knows what else...
and I'll also have a bsd box as a file server for nfs usage...
I want to be as versitile as possible and learn as much as I can as system administrator.
yhelothar
Lifer
Yes so longer uptime...
and even more security..
Anything else? :roll:
When I used linux, I had to restart FAR more. Sure I didn't have to restart the entire operating system, just restart x, but that's basically the same thing as rebooting to me, because I have to close all my programs.
I had to restartx just to change resolutions... :disgust:
and even more security..
Anything else? :roll:
When I used linux, I had to restart FAR more. Sure I didn't have to restart the entire operating system, just restart x, but that's basically the same thing as rebooting to me, because I have to close all my programs.
I had to restartx just to change resolutions... :disgust:
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