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Mr. X has no DNET ethics

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OmegaXero

Senior member
For a moment, lets consider a man, we'll call him Mr. X. Now Mr. X knows certain information about a certain amount of computers. He knows that there are roughly 170 Pentium III 450s and 70 Pentium III 1ghz PCs at a certain location. These PCs are all running win2k and have been locked down very tightly. However, Mr. X wants to sneak DNET onto all of these PCs. How would he go about doing this, assuming that this is a real situation.

Tell "Mr. X", that he'll have to go somewhere else for his information. Perhaps you should also look elsewhere.

Good-bye

AnandTech Moderator
 
Omega,

Although there are some on this forums who would probably help theoretically, I would argue that everyone refrain from this type of activity for now. Now that Dave's story is getting publicized, you can bet some IT managers are going to see it and start wondering if anything like this is happening on their computers. You don't want to go through what Dave is going through right now.

Jay
 
Apply for the job of Systems Administrator; once you have the job, make certain there isn't anything in the company policy against a DC type of project(or any "un-authorized software&quot😉 and install at will. If there is such a policy in place, have it reviewed and the RC5/OGR/SETI client added to the acceptable programs list. 😉

The real point is, you must have explicit permission(or BE the one who can give such permission to install the clients); in light of recent events(dmcowen), it would be completely foolish to think otherwise.

 
He would get permission, IN WRITING from the administrator of those systems to run Dnet. If he couldn't, he would just forget about it.
 
I fail to see the logic behind the question.

The method of doing so would be entirely up to him, wouldn't it?
 
>> Mr. X has no DNET ethics

Okay, taken in light of the above statement, it must also be concluded that Mr. X also has no reason to expect to refrain free(cuz he could go to jail(espcially if in Georgia)) and Mr. X also doesn't want to have any money(cuz he could lose his job or be sued by the owner(s) of the machines he's trying to infiltrate, or both!)

That a bit more clear for ya? :disgust:

 
If Mr. X has no ethics, then maybe he will steal someone's VISA Platinum, then buy the computers, unlock them and install the client. 😉
 
I forgot to mention that Mr. X will also need to steal enough money for a warehouse to keep all those computers in, also. 😉
 
This is bait, right?

Seriously, take the net admin out to lunch.


viz the unreasonable


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For Great Justice!
 
Mr. X has nothing to lose in doing this. Lets assume that he has already tried such a project on a much smaller basis. However, this is rather large scale by Mr. X's standards. Assuming that this is a real situation, how would he go about assimilating his victims?
 
Hey, I like viztech's approach of bribery. 🙂 Seriously, though, if you're trying to play "devil's advocate" or something, your point is being lost on me here. And if you want advice on how to hack Win2k PC's, I don't think anyone here has those mad l33t skillz, yo.

edit: and if they did, they wouldn't tell you how, not for that kind of goal.
 
if Mr.X does this he will not be welcome in TA, Team AnandTech has very strict policys when it comes to distributed computing and unautorized installs, and so does Dnet. Mr.X is stupid to ask this question here and if Mr.X does not want to fallow the rules of the game, Mr.X can take a hike 🙂 that is how you do it.

also Mr.X should ask permission explain the client and what it does BEFORE Mr.X even thinks about installing any software onto locked down machines.

there is your answer Mr.X.
 
its people like Mr.X with knowing intent to do somthing that is prohibited, that is making the McOwen Case what it is. 🙁 for shame on Mr.X
 
Lets assume that Mr. X has already considered the consequences of such actions. Nonetheless, not being worried about his ethics, Mr. X is looking for a final option as to what he must do. Mr. X does have a certain friend with TA that is trying to convince him to abort the operation. However, Mr. X refuses to change his mind.
 
let me make this VERY Clear to you Mr.X, NO ONE ON THIS TEAM IS GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO BREAK THE RULES! no one is going to tell you how to get around windows 2000 security, no one is going to tell you to install dnet software on machines they know you dont have permission on. if Mr.X is so into getting around windows 2000 security, I suggest Mr.X go somewhere else. perhaps google and learn his damn self.

is that clear enough?

oh and I should add, if narzy finds out that Mr.X did install the software narzy will hunt Mr.X down, and really hurt him bad.
 
...so he steals his friend's VISA Platinum... 😛

All right, sorry. At that point, as the friend at TA (since you want us to take some role in your sceneario and I only fit that one), I say "the heck with it, you're not listening, so stop asking me the question you don't want to hear the answer to." And I stop reading his thread about the subject. mechBgon out.
 
HAHA, very interesting comments. Assuming that this actually was a REAL scenario, Mr. X would be shaking his head wondering why you bone heads don't want him to put computers to work for DNET. But that's ok, for if you strike him down he would become more powerful than you can possibly imagine (^ hint hint narzy). 😛
 
Lets set up another hypethetical situation/question shall we (just to do it)?

Let's say someone ooo, lets see named Mr K helped Mr X.....
and Mr X got cought |-|4X0R1|\|6 (hacking) the win 2k boxes with the l337 h4x0ring software THE dnet client...
And then the police begain a full investigation into this matter.
They somehow cameupon the name of Mr K, who is a member of the AT forums and helped MrX. Now because the AT forums has a 1337 h4x0ring forum (DC) and Mr K and Mr X belong to the 1337 h4X0ring forums, they are thrown in jail for a very long time, and the AT DC forums gets shut down, and everyone "1337 h4X0ring" gets arrested for federal computer fraud, and it was blamed entierly (by the prosicution) on Mr X, and that would mean that Mr X would be resposible for breaking up countless number of familys, and relationships, and would also be the cause of years of hadships, by said familys and relationships. Would that THEN be a violation of MrX's ethics?






PS, sorry for lack of creativity, and horrible icky spelling and grammer errors, but it is late here, and I am tired.
 


<< HAHA, very interesting comments. Assuming that this actually was a REAL scenario, Mr. X would be shaking his head wondering why you bone heads don't want him to put computers to work for DNET. But that's ok, for if you strike him down he would become more powerful than you can possibly imagine (^ hint hint narzy). 😛 >>



Mr.X should read narzy's earlier post about unautorized installs before opening his mouth 😉
 
There are plenty of ways to do it but, as everyone has said before don't bother. I have a hard time believing that someone could be so stupid after what has happened to Dave.

KingHam
 
We are definitely dealing with the Dark Side here. It is your primal Eve versus the snake in the garden, Luke Skywalker versus the Emperor scenario.

As with all good versus evil conflicts, the only solution is to turn your back to the evil. To argue with it means compromise or acceptance of it.

therefore, lock the thread.
 
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